Couple killed by drunk driver on U.S. 491

A Newcomb couple was killed in a crash with an apparent drunken driver on U.S. 491 early Tuesday morning while returning home after Christmas shopping with their 4-year-old son, the FBI said. Full Story
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janice

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Dec 10, 2008
my gosh how many DWI's can a person get in San Juan County and still be free to drive again? Then some innocent person pays for it, wake up Judges of San Juan Co. and put these people behind bars for the first DWI. I personally know someone that has 2 DWI's and was found drunk again and is still walking the streets, this is sick. No wonder we have so many drunk drivers, there are no consequences!!!!
FedUp

Hobbs, NM

#3 Dec 10, 2008
It's always the same old sad and pathetic story! The innocent family is killed or horribly wounded, while the drunk and his/her drunk buddies walk away to get drunk and drive again.....When will it ever end?
I firmly believe that everyone in our entire Country has had enough warning and education on why you shouldn't drive drunk, so everyone knows better! So now it's time that the stiffest penalties allowed should be enforced both on public highways and tribal lands. I won't say that I will ever condone a single offense, but a stern punishment should be levied without regards to how much money a person has or how good a lawyer he has, the .08 gets you 28 should be mandatory in every single first time case. After the first DWI, any subsequent DWI's should result in immediate confiscation of vehicle and lifelong suspension of Drivers License and mandatory prison time. Until the laws are re-written that will make anyone and everyone reconsider driving drunk or allowing a family member or friend to drive drunk, nothing will ever change. This is such a very sad situation that is normal life for us in the 4 Corners. Now a 4 year old, if he survives, will spend the rest of his life without the Parents who loved him, and will always live with the fact that his family died while doing Christmas Shopping for him.....what a life this little boy will have, I sincerely hope he has a strong and loving family that will walk with him as he tries to move forward in his life and tries to cope with the loss he has suffered. Where does the change start? does anybody have any suggestions?
old man young

Odessa, TX

#4 Dec 10, 2008
no matter how many times tradegies occur on the reservation and no matter how many lives are altered, the incidents involving alcohol will continue. the tribe in it's pride over being "soveriegn", will not cooperate with state authorities in regards to sharing DWI records. As it is, there are NO consequences for many criminal offenses. With such a social state, there is very little is holding navajo society in place. Things will never change on the rez. It will only get progressively worse. Navajos are like little children without parents; anything goes, everything is accepted, be as selfish as you can, and if you can't get it, beg, steal, or commit self-destructive activities. In any other area of the country besides the many native reservations, the community would be in an uproar, change would happen, consequences would be enforced. But this is accepted as a daily life hazard living on the rez and the value of humanity as precious is the same as a stray rez dog that no one regards.

Since: Apr 08

farmington

#5 Dec 10, 2008
I am a co worker of Arnold. He a a very god person always smling and just a un prson. The child inthe vehichle wih his parentswas their pide and joy!He will be dearly missed,we called him the godfather caus his voice sounded like a mobster lol.He and his wife were a great example of caring parents.We here at work will never forget him or is family.I am truly pissed off that those idiots walked away.I for one think this whole county should go dry.Lord you take care of my friend in heaven.We miss you godfather!

Since: Sep 08

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#6 Dec 10, 2008
AfflictionNation wrote:
I am a co worker of Arnold. He a a very god person always smling and just a un prson. The child inthe vehichle wih his parentswas their pide and joy!He will be dearly missed,we called him the godfather caus his voice sounded like a mobster lol.He and his wife were a great example of caring parents.We here at work will never forget him or is family.I am truly **** off that those idiots walked away.I for one think this whole county should go dry.Lord you take care of my friend in heaven.We miss you godfather!
I agree with you...if this whole county went dry it would probably be for the better.
What the French Toast

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Dec 10, 2008
The nice folks who make our State and Federal laws drink, therefor I don't think ANYTHING will ever be done about it. I too worked with Arnie and I would love to hurt his killer but it would be a wast of effort, 10 more would rise up and take his place.
ASK WHY

Nageezi, NM

#8 Dec 10, 2008
How many more innocent lives will be taken before anything happens? I'm sick and tired of people killing others on the reservation. The worst thing is most of these idiotic murderers only spend a year or two in incarceration. Then they are out again to do the same harm again. Something needs to be done!
John Doe

United States

#9 Dec 10, 2008
I think that it is sad that there is such a lack of enforcement on drunk driving. I moved away from San Juan County almost a year ago to live in Texas. I have not even seen half of the problem with people driving drunk as there is in San Juan. It is just plain pathetic to see that so many people have to lose thier life because the State of New Mexico and law enforcement of San Juan County can not get this problem under control.
JJay

United States

#10 Dec 10, 2008
janice wrote:
my gosh how many DWI's can a person get in San Juan County and still be free to drive again? Then some innocent person pays for it, wake up Judges of San Juan Co. and put these people behind bars for the first DWI. I personally know someone that has 2 DWI's and was found drunk again and is still walking the streets, this is sick. No wonder we have so many drunk drivers, there are no consequences!!!!
Two!!! How about the judges that let those with 10 or 12 out and free to drive?
soSAD

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Dec 10, 2008
why is it always the wrong lives are taken?
What the F

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Dec 10, 2008
How tragic for the innocent family. I hope your happy you f'n loser.
Charles Farmington Nm

Locust Grove, OK

#13 Dec 10, 2008
N8TIVE CHEROKEE wrote:
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I agree with you...if this whole county went dry it would probably be for the better.
I don't think so because it will always be found on the reservation, this reminds me of the innocent lives taken a few years ago in Albuquerque. Theirs not a cop or judge who will ever stop this type of ignorance and death to innocent people unless the sob's are put to death themselves and if you pay attention they always make it out alive.
Butterfly

United States

#14 Dec 10, 2008
My deepest and upmost sympathy to the family of the victims. Its such a tragic event when one decides to get behind the wheel while drunk and kill an innocent family.
I knew Ilene, and she was such a devoted loving mother and wife. I wont forget her smile, even back in high school she has just always so cheerful.
You will be missed dearly...
For the children of Ilene, be strong and know your mom is in heaven watching over you. She loved you very much!
Hugs
Shocked

Chinle, AZ

#15 Dec 10, 2008
Words fail me. Prayers to the little boy. Prayers to the family and friends of the Gould family. May God watch over each one of the family and those grieving and left behind. Take comfort in knowing you will see each other again. Where can one make a donation? Thank you.
Disbelief

Grand Junction, CO

#16 Dec 10, 2008
Why are these people allowed to run free time and time again? It's not one of those things "well everyone does it, at least once." No. It doesn't happen that way. Now two people are dead and this man will walk free again. How many people have to die in the name of the drink? If you drink, stay home, if you drive, stay sober. It's not complicated. If you have a problem, stay home and have it. Don't spread your "disease" upon the world. God bless the boy and his family, may they rise from this stronger than before.
Stunned

Window Rock, AZ

#17 Dec 10, 2008
Every 4 years politicians campaign to push for tougher DWI laws and to share the Navajo Nation DWI data base with the State! I know that Joe Shirley /Wife have made that committment, but today all he cares is about cutting back the Council's seat and saving his own position. What a waste of 4 years!!
Much Love and Support

Goodyear, AZ

#18 Dec 10, 2008
My thoughts and prayers are with the Gould family especially the little boy Lance. May God be with you during this tragic time.
Wow

Longmont, CO

#19 Dec 10, 2008
I'm so saddened to hear this story of family that went Christmas shopping then to be killed on the way home by a drunk driver. Ya'de'lah ! These drunk drivers need to be spend many years behind bars for the first offence. I'm tired of the tribe not doing much behind these matters as well as their own families. My condolences to this Newcomb family especially at this time of year.
WTF

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Dec 10, 2008
Charles Farmington Nm wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think so because it will always be found on the reservation, this reminds me of the innocent lives taken a few years ago in Albuquerque. Theirs not a cop or judge who will ever stop this type of ignorance and death to innocent people unless the sob's are put to death themselves and if you pay attention they always make it out alive.
"it will always be found on the reservation".... Are you stating that it will always be found on the reservation even if the country went dry? WTF? A wrongful death was commited on the Navajo Reservation involving Navajos and alcohol does not justify what you just said. I hope that I am wrong, but I take offense to what you just wrote. It's bad enough that Native Americans are stereotype into drunks and most americans still believe it to this day. Alcohol is an equal opportunity destroyer and it don't care what race, religion, or sex you are. It's plan and simple, we need to make alcohol/beer companies accountable for their products, just like the cigarette industry. The country has already banned alcohol in the 30's but it didn't stop people from making their own liquor. Making the country dry isn't the answer, but making the companies that produce it is a start.
patience

Sioux Falls, SD

#21 Dec 10, 2008
My thoughts and prayers are with both of the families. i knew who they were and they were a nice, loving family. Ilene was such a sweetheart always smiling and Arnold was there right along with her. I feel bad for the children. I myself lost my sister two years ago from a drunk driver and it still hurts me to this day. The driver of the vehicle walked away and no charges were filed against her. This also happend on the reservation. I dont know why the innocent ones always get taken while the drunk ones always survive and walk away unharmed. That angers me. So my prayers are with the family of Ilene and Arnold.

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