Do you feel safe flying Frontier?

frontier and airtran...merger...the best way.....erduace....

We are seeing the unraveling of the airline industry just as we saw the unraveling of the shipping industry in America.
Be prepared for a Vietnamese captain sitting next to an Italian first officer who do not share a common first language. When an emergency occurs, expect the outcome to be written in blood. All this so that airline company managers can collect maximum paychecks.

Well won't do any good fighting the outsourcing, I can tell you from experience that the unions and the public really don't care. The unions for several airlines are in bed with the company and will sign off on anything pretty much to keep what cash they have coming in from the remaining union members. The public just doesn't understand nor do they care as long as they get a bargain. Then you have the flight crews, well they are afraid to raise any red flags, and the FAA well we all know how useless they are. So there y6ou have it! Until you can get those in Washington to just shutdown exporting work to El Salvador nothing will happen. The operation in El Slavador is a cash cow for them, the average mech makes $7 an hr and no one including the supervisors are required to have FAA licenses. The operation was toured by several Congressional people and they came back with great reports, talking about how clean it was etc. So there you have it, until someone really starts hammering home just who is behind this operation there in El Salvador, by the media nothing is going to happen. We have do nothing unions and a do nothing FAA.I drive everywhere for trips now, at least I am in control of my safety and not some unlicensed, 18 yr old who has no experience, can't read english and has no formal training, no drug testing, no alcohol testing, ohh yes don't forget the background check.

Cable Guy wrote:

I drive everywhere for trips now, at least I am in control of my safety and not some unlicensed, 18 yr old who has no experience, can't read english and has no formal training, no drug testing, no alcohol testing, ohh yes don't forget the background check.

Where are you driving? That sounds like South Florida

It's the typical cost to risk ratio. The airlines can save alot of money. When one does crash, will they have saved equal too or more than the lawsuit payouts? That is the risk part. these 3rd worlders fix thier own planes and they aren't exactly dropping out of the sky. It Sucks, but welcome to business. For those of you who don't care because it can't happen to them. Every job outside of top managment is expendable.

The flying public doesn't give a rat's ass about outsourcing. The only thing they care about is a cheap seat. As long as the aircraft they are on gets there safely, no one cares.

At least UA contracts its wide bodied aircraft to a country with an aviation skilled workforce,S. Korea. El Salvador does not even have its own airline.
NWA does not outsource its MX work but look at what a $hitty job with its half @$$ MX workforce that can't even fixed an airplane right. Its aircraft is unairworthy and hap-hazard to the general public. SCABS!!!

NWA gets its MX personnel from.....
HOME F'EN DEPOT... Stick with bath and kitchen alright guys. You should not be endangering human life by fixing airplanes. Your MX department or lack of it is a joke. SCABS!!!!!!! UNION AND LIFE BUSTERS. Nothing more pathetic than a low life stealing other peoples job and trying to hard to pretend that you can fix an airplane. Delayta will ax your @$$ to the curb, CHUMP!!!

Hey Fred, you had a choice, the mechanics that were without a job, because they were laid off, had a choice. Get over it. AMFA made a miscalculated choice and screwed up. Anybody and everybody saw what happened to NWA mechs coming. The writing was on the wall and you had to have a brain the size of a pea not see it happening. Also the licensed Union A&P Mechanics working line maintenance are the last line of defense for the general publics safety.

Nwa paid DAL and others $150 mil to train replacements. Of course they saw it coming. Just about all the mechanics at DTW and MSP are NWA mechanics that crossed. Take it up with them. BTW, you are right about one thing, passengers don't care who flys, fixes, or serves them. All they want is a cheap ticket.

I used to work with Frontier and now with another major carrier. The sad fact is that all the airlines outsource their maintenance. So if you are scared to fly Frontier you should be scared to fly any other airline as well. The airlines are outsourcing because they can lower their biggest cost "Labor" by paying a fraction of what they pay americans. The bigger problem is that the government lets them do it. Don't blame the airlines, blame your government.

The (racist)assumption here seems to be that hispanics are incapable of safely performing maintenance on an aircraft. Of course once they arrive here it is safe for them to work on aircraft, right?

You all have to get over the fact that the U.S. is not the only country capable of building, flying and maintaining aircraft. In fact the airplanes in question were built in France, Spain, Germany and England and in many ways are superior to the Boeing offerings. Embraer of Brazil makes excellent airplanes with very good safety records, the Canadians do as well. And now the Chinese are launching space vehicles and plan to land on the moon. Amazing what those non-Caucasians can do! And yes, I feel quite safe flying with FAL and enjoy the service. Their employees attitudes for the most part are very refreshing.

This story claims that all Mx in the U.S. is preformed by federally licensed A&P mechanics and that foreign Mx doesn't require the mechs be licensed. That is so far from the truth it isn't funny. First off, most mechs working for 3rd party Mx providers here in the U.S. do not and I repeat, do not have any license at all. As a matter of fact, most of the mechs here at a 3rd party MX provider, don't have any aircraft MX schooling at all. As long as the 3rd party MX provider has a repair station certificate the mechs are not required to have an A&P license. So if you think that just because your plane is being maintained in North Carolina or Alabama or Arizona, that doesn't mean all the mechs on it have an A&P ticket !!!!