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U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

Water well testing recommended for Crestwood area

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Zero Proof

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Tell the truth wrote:
Are you trying to villify the woman? It's not enough for you what Chesters money saving plan may have done to her children? You are a special kind of sick.
I'm sure the woman is horrified at the thought of being exposed to these substances. Wouldn't anyone be if they experienced looking at their child... sick and in a cancerous condition? You have no empathy whatsoever. You're just the kind of person who could poison a child and then flee from taking any responsibility.
As long as people like you are in control in Crestwood no one is safe. Because the truth doesn't matter to you. People don't matter. Only their votes.
You have no scientific proof. This is all a hypothesis on your part. Did you read the article? She has oil sheen in her Orland Park back yard. In the Sun Times Wednesday hot dogs may cause cancer. Why Mayor Stranczek would you allow restaurants to serve and stores to sell hot dogs!!! Why Why. Come clean.

And for the last time, NO ONE HAS ATTENDED A VILLAGE BOARD MEETING TO COMPLAIN. WHY IS THAT? QUIT MAKING EXCUSES.
U Poison Children

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People have come forward. Did you go to the EPA meeting? Do you really think Stranczek would publicize the fact that anyone came forward?

Bottom line: under mayor Stranczeks watch the city illegally mixed polluted and contaminated well water with city water and didn't notify the EPA. There are criminal violations here.

Stranczek is hiding the truth from the public. I guess that would be human nature after you may have poisoned hundreds if not thousands of children.

If a hundred people marched on village hall tonight tommorow you would say "no one has complained."

You are a bunch of immoral child poisoning liars in my opinion.

Why haven't you come out with the truth? Quit making excuses. How long have our children been drinking toxic water Mayor Stranczek?
Zero Proof

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Tell the truth wrote:
Are you trying to villify the woman? It's not enough for you what Chesters money saving plan may have done to her children? You are a special kind of sick.
I'm sure the woman is horrified at the thought of being exposed to these substances. Wouldn't anyone be if they experienced looking at their child... sick and in a cancerous condition? You have no empathy whatsoever. You're just the kind of person who could poison a child and then flee from taking any responsibility.
As long as people like you are in control in Crestwood no one is safe. Because the truth doesn't matter to you. People don't matter. Only their votes.
If ONE person marched on village hall I would give you credit, now answer the one nagging question why has not one resident gone to a village board meeting and complained. ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
Bored Meeting

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because residents are tired of VH meetings and nothing getting done?
Childrens Lives

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There is a pile of evidence at the EPA office in Elgin. They're going to go over it for a while. All the documents are there. Documents that show what was going on. You were using that well water for a long time. Maybe thirty years. Slowly poisoning the residents of Crestwood. Purveying sickness and cancer, misery and pain. You deserve everything you get after this.

I have never seen a case where contaminated water was intentionally put into the public water system, illegally and secretly. What you did in Crestwood will make the Erin Brakovich story look like a kids book. The lawyers will have a field day with you. When the press gets the story out you will become the most hated monsters in America for what you did to the people who trusted you. Your arrogance and illegal acts have hurt and sickened many children. Wreacked havoc on families young and old.

How many thousands have you poisoned?

The people have a special trust with those who are supposed to provide for them without question safe and pure water. You violated that special trust and you are going to pay dearly for it.

Just not as dearly as some of the children you poisoned with your filthy water.
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My fellow Crestwood residents,

We have disagreed and fought over many issues on this website. We have had our differences. We debated the merits of that womans arrest at the Wal Mart. We've disagreed on how the police department and our community has been run.

All of that is in the past.

We need to come together at this time as a community and demand that the truth about our water be told. Even if that truth may not make our village leaders look good.

Each day more and more people hear about the suspicions that have been raised about the water we drink in Crestwood. Some people say that the water we have been drinking for a long time contains dangerous chemicals that are not healthy for our families to consume.

Let us put aside our philosophical differences and disagreements and come together for the one thing that matters the most. Our families and their health.

We need to stand together as one community and demand of our elected leaders that they tell us the truth about the water we have been drinking. Did it come from a well? Was that well polluted? How long have we been drinking this water? What kids of chemicals are in it? What are the effects of those chemicals on our families and our children?

We need to voice our concern in the community, to the elected leaders, at the village board meetings. We need to voice our concerns so that we are heard, our questions are answered and are families are reassured that they have been told the truth.

At this moment, let us stand together and demand the truth. It is what our families deserve.

Concerned Resident.
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im glad stranczek is poisining you fools.. all you people do is sit and home post on this forum and have nothing to look forward to except your rebate checks.. heres an idea.. use your rebate check and get your water tested!!!!!
Excellent Post

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Come Together wrote:
My fellow Crestwood residents,
We have disagreed and fought over many issues on this website. We have had our differences. We debated the merits of that womans arrest at the Wal Mart. We've disagreed on how the police department and our community has been run.
All of that is in the past.
We need to come together at this time as a community and demand that the truth about our water be told. Even if that truth may not make our village leaders look good.
Each day more and more people hear about the suspicions that have been raised about the water we drink in Crestwood. Some people say that the water we have been drinking for a long time contains dangerous chemicals that are not healthy for our families to consume.
Let us put aside our philosophical differences and disagreements and come together for the one thing that matters the most. Our families and their health.
We need to stand together as one community and demand of our elected leaders that they tell us the truth about the water we have been drinking. Did it come from a well? Was that well polluted? How long have we been drinking this water? What kids of chemicals are in it? What are the effects of those chemicals on our families and our children?
We need to voice our concern in the community, to the elected leaders, at the village board meetings. We need to voice our concerns so that we are heard, our questions are answered and are families are reassured that they have been told the truth.
At this moment, let us stand together and demand the truth. It is what our families deserve.
Concerned Resident.
I agree with you. The residents do need answers you should go to the next village board meeting. You seem very passionate about the Crestwood water. Why don't you take the lead and organize the people in Crestwood? Why are you and a lot of Crestwood residents afraid to sign your name to what I believe is one of the best posts I have read to date. I live in Tinley and if feel for the residents of Crestwood. The people in Tinley would be storming village hall if this were to occur here. Good luck!!!
Poison Purveyors

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Our rebate checks would barely buy us a proper water filter system. Funny how we would have to spend our rebate to protect ourselves from the people who gave it to us.
Poison

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The paperwork will get them.
Chesters Decision

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Chet, wa sit your decision to feed the babies toxic water?
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Chesters Decision wrote:
Chet, wa sit your decision to feed the babies toxic water?
I read many posts from the many blogs. As a 37 year resident living in the "Gardens” a senior citizen I became concerned. I read posts who were accusing the village of poisoning the babies, children and adults of Crestwood. I then read posts that said prove it.

I posted a previous post and it was removed by Topix because I posted the EPA phone numbers.

I went back and retrieved the number to the EPA. The post stated to call Rob and gave his number to file your complainant. An investigation is under way. So I called the phone number that was printed out. I was put through to Rob from the EPA. I told Rob why I was calling. His answer shocked me. I was the first person from Crestwood to call him. If you don't believe this call him. He asked me how I obtained his name because he does not handle theses types of complaints. He gave me another number to call and assured me if the water was as bad as I told him from the posts the EPA would have taken immediate and swift action. I asked him how his name was obtained and he said the EPA put public service announcement posters out advising resident to call him with questions on waterways such as the canal. That is how they obtained his name but his department would not handle any such complainants. He then said the posts sound like pure POLITICS to me. Rob gave me another number to call. I called that number and told the receptionist what my questions were regarding the water in Crestwood. This division of the EPA handles drinking water. She put me through to Jeff who is an engineer with the EPA. He advised me there is no investigation into any water in Crestwood. He then said in order for the water to be poisonous you would have to be drinking a much higher level of the toxin from a pure well for several decades. Do to the volume of water the toxin would be in fact watered down. There is no reason to worry. Please call the EPA if you don't believe me.

These posts are all BOGUS. The EPA has no knowledge or no investigation currently under way; in fact they do not have one complainant on file. Once again call the EPA and ask the questions for your self.

To the people posting these false allegations and using children to try and scare the resident’s shame on you. It is pathetic you would go slow low as to try and get your false point across. I pray to God he shows mercy on your soul. You will need it.
Call Shabu

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My posts were removed for listing a phone number too. I spoke with a guy named Shabu. He said that the EPA was suspicious that Crestwood was using the municipal well and that they sent out a female inspector in December with written orders to obtain evidence that Crestwood was indeed using the well.

Shabu said that Crestwood was not authorized to use the well "except in an emergency" and that they have an agreement with the village of Alsip that forbids them from using a well because they purchase their water from them.

Shabu said that the village "is not in compliance" with the EPA rules and in fact has violations pending.

Shabu said that all further investigation was being conducted in Springfield at "compliance."

I don't know if Rob is with the same office but if he works on things like the canal I wonder what he would have to do with an investigation into the public water supply of Crestwood.

Shabu said that there were "a lot of paperwork irregularities" and that he sent the whole file to Springfield where "compliance" would take over any investigation.

Shabu was insistent that Crestwood should not have been using the well and felt that the paperwork needed to be examined by higher ups in Springfield.

Call him at the Elgin office of the EPA.

Did Crestwood have the authority to use the water from that well? Are you saying the EPA said that Crestwood could use this water?

That's not what Shabu said.

He specifically said that the well tested almost three times higher than the EPA would allow for a carcinogenic chemical.

You are saying the EPA says "don't worry about toxic water? That you can just water it down?"

I don't believe you have good information. I would much prefer the mayor to explain who made the decision to use that well and if indeed it was authorized by the EPA.

Something doesn't add up
Dark Secrets

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Crestwood has been LYING to the EPA for years.

People in Crestwood's government have commited acts of perjury when they signed statements and reports to the EPA.

Let's open the books on the water department.

Let the sun shine in on the way it has been run.

We need an audit of water department records and procedures.

Truth

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Dark Secrets wrote:
Crestwood has been LYING to the EPA for years.
People in Crestwood's government have commited acts of perjury when they signed statements and reports to the EPA.
Let's open the books on the water department.
Let the sun shine in on the way it has been run.
We need an audit of water department records and procedures.
I agree with you. We need the truth. Why are Rob & Jeff from the EPA telling a different story from Shabu (I apologize for the spelling)?

Is this politics like the EPA stated? If it is as bad as you are stating why has no action been taken so far from the EPA of Health Department? Don't you believe the EPA would have issued a statement if the problem was as bad as you state?

It appears to me the EPA does not think there is a problem. If you notified them like you have stated repeatedly about the supposed well water use why have they remained silent?
Even if the village refuses to answer your questions as you have posted numerous times why the EPA has remained silent? I wonder if there really is no problem and this is more political then real.
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3\4's of all these posts on these different threads sounds as if chicken little was out here saying "the sky is falling." With out positive proof you are all just flapping your gum's.

I am 100 percent sure that a X Crestwood employee started all this mess,reason being,only an X employee could bring about this much hate toward a town. I'm also sure that the reason they were let go was due to politics.

I'm also sure that they were sitting at home feeling sorry for themself's and were looking for some pay back. What better way than starting a nasty rumor. How about a bunch of rumors. This will get more people involved.

I even feel for some of this in the begining, but where is the proof. Why haven't residents stormed city hall and demanded answers. Not even the EPA has been called according to the one post as of lately. Why I ask, The answer is simple.

There never was a problem in the first place,just rumors. That's why nothing has happened. Just an unhappy x-employee who was sitting on top of the world watching others get involved and were putting their own spin on things. Now the jig is up. I guess you Mr/Mrs X-Employee will now have to find something else to do with your time.
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That's right. Mayor Stranczek only has our best interests in mind. I know. They never used contaminated well water. The people of Crestwood drink PURE Evian water. The village public works people pour thousands of bottles of Evian into those tanks everyday.

What if a disgruntled ex employee was the one who opened up the valve to put the toxic well water into the system?

It's all a conspiracy against the good and kind Stranczek family who would never expose the children of Crestwood to poisonous well water.
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hello whats up
Puff the Magic Dragon

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Dark Secrets wrote:
That's right. Mayor Stranczek only has our best interests in mind. I know. They never used contaminated well water. The people of Crestwood drink PURE Evian water. The village public works people pour thousands of bottles of Evian into those tanks everyday.
What if a disgruntled ex employee was the one who opened up the valve to put the toxic well water into the system?
It's all a conspiracy against the good and kind Stranczek family who would never expose the children of Crestwood to poisonous well water.
What if - doesn't mean yes or no. How do you know for sure that toxic well water was added to the system?
If your basing your theory on "what if", You don't have a leg to stand on.
Truth

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Puff the Magic Dragon wrote:
<quoted text>What if - doesn't mean yes or no. How do you know for sure that toxic well water was added to the system?
If your basing your theory on "what if", You don't have a leg to stand on.
he admitted in pervious posts he is the former village manager who was fired. You hit it right on the head. Some would consider it a home run. Excellent post.
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