U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
Oct 6, 2008
At Least 500,000 Gallons of Crude Oil Spilled Into Gulf Due to Hurricane Ike
Hurricane Ike's winds and massive waves destroyed oil platforms, tossed storage tanks and punctured pipelines. The environmental damage only now is becoming apparent: At least a half million gallons of crude oil spilled into the Gulf of Mexico and the marshes, bayous and bays of Louisiana and Texas, according to an analysis of federal data by The Associated Press. In the days before and after the deadly storm, companies and residents reported at least 448 releases of oil, gasoline and dozens of other substances into the air and water and onto the ground in Louisiana and Texas. The hardest hit places were industrial centers near Houston and Port Arthur, Texas, as well as oil production facilities off Louisiana's coast, according to the AP's analysis.
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That's Mother Nature's way of throwing it back at us! This is one of the many reasons I do not want oil drilled off of Florida. Let's instead use the power of the sun, wind and water and make it affordable for everyone. We should have started doing this years ago!
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So let me guess, The price of oil is going to go up! Right? Shouldn't it since oil was affected? BUT THINK OF THIS! WHY DID OIL GO UP RIGHT BEFORE THE STOCK MARKET SITUATION OR DID OIL CAUSE THE S.M.S.?
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“it'll only hurt a minute.” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 399 |
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“Perseverance” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 666 Rochester, N.Y ISP: United States |
This will be a re-occurring story as we enter the age of abrupt climate change. Though sad and tragic, all or those who continue to live on or near any coastal region on this planet will meet the same fate or worse. Scores of coastal dwellers remain stationary while they attempt to unload their doomed properties to some oblivious sapp with more money than brains and propensity to live in the past. |
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I'd like to politely disagree that it is just about climate change. In 1900 there was a hurricane that devastated this area because no one knew it was coming. In the 60's there was Carla, in 1983 there was Alicia (I moved from NJ in '73 so I was here for that one), in 2006 there was Rita and now Ike. It's about nature, the same way there are earthquakes in California, tornados in Kansas, and blizzards in Chicago. People do and will continue to live where there are natural disasters.
Nothing is stagnant about this earth we live on, it is all about change. All we can do is live in as small as a carbon footprint as we can. I choose to be informed, but not live in fear. This is not the first or last time oil has been spilled into the ocean/gulf. Right after the hurricane it was unseasonable cool in Houston, now it is unseasonably humid. Tomorrow it will rain. All of this is normal.
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Just wanted to be clear, I was only commenting about the environmental mess. Not the destruction or loss of lives. Being from Florida, I know what hurricanes are like, they put the fear of God in me! As I watched Ike bearing down on Texas, my thoughts and prayers were with you all then and still are today! |
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“Perseverance” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 666 Rochester, N.Y ISP: United States |
I seriously suggest you read President Bush's: "White House Report on Abrupt Climate Change." http://search.yahoo.com/search... After reading the above thoroughly, if your opinion as posted on TOPIX is unchanged, I can only fathom you are attempting to unload a financial interest involving property on or near the coast to an oblivious sapp with more money than brains. |
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“Perseverance” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 666 Rochester, N.Y ISP: United States |
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You "fathom" incorrectly about me once again. The only property I own is the one I live on and I am not in a coastal community.
I stand firmly on the ground in reality and utilize common sense for my opinions. You have a right to yours as much as I have a right to mine. We can agree to disagree without wild assumptions and name calling.
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“Perseverance” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 666 Rochester, N.Y ISP: United States |
Did you read President Bush's Abrupt Climate Change Report? |
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“Perseverance” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 666 Rochester, N.Y ISP: United States |
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1 BTW, "common sense" is best utilized when baking a pizza, going to the toilet, raising your kids, etc. Contrariwise, determinations relative to abrupt climate change is something best left to scientific studies by persons with credentials to back-up what they say. |
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“2nd class citizenship!! Hooray” Joined: Jul 4, 2008 Comments: 1819 ISP: Tampa, FL |
You obviously do not know the dynamics of the oil market & the NY Stock Exchange. Oil is traded, globally, through the US Dollar. If the dollar is strong against most currencies, the cost of a barrel of oil goes up and makes less people want to buy. This is one of the main reasons that this is happening. The dollar is slowly strengthening against the euro, pound, and yen. What also caused the oil prices to drop is supply versus demand. Demand has weakened for oil because people are driving less and finding other ways to get around. When that occurs, a large stockhold of oil piles up and that is what many refineries are experiencing. When there is a glut of oil available to make things like gas, then it can cause the prices to drop. There is no simple answer for why gas prices have dropped, except for the two things I mentioned. With the economy dropping like a rock and 60% of people stating that they think we are going into The Great Depression Part Two, people are not traveling and saving money. Every free dollar I have is now being saved. No more going out to eat, no more fun trips to Orlando or the beach. I am saving like there is no tomorrow. |
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“2nd class citizenship!! Hooray” Joined: Jul 4, 2008 Comments: 1819 ISP: Tampa, FL |
Well, when compared to $147 a barrel, it is not up. Most economists are stating that it may drop as low as $40 a barrel. If that happens, gas may be back to what it cost in 1998. It all determines if everyone to cut back. An economic slowdown, like what we are having is not altogether bad, gas prices are taking a major hit and I am sure Exxon/Mobil, Chevron, and BP are totally freaking out right now. It really does suck to have a product that has taken a 40% nosedive in the market and that much of a reduction on people cutting back. |
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“2nd class citizenship!! Hooray” Joined: Jul 4, 2008 Comments: 1819 ISP: Tampa, FL |
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1 Very true, in Tampa Bay we tend to forget that a Carla, Alicia, Rita, or Ike can easily hit us. |
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“it'll only hurt a minute.” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 399 |
Thanks Steven. I do have to disagree on one small point. That is the statement that people are not traveling? While the travel industry is going gangbusters it isn't in the tank either. People are more selective and higher end adventure destinations are still popular. Disney might be hurting but Yosemite isn't. |
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“it'll only hurt a minute.” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 399 |
Sadly using "common sense" is being replaced with knee jerk reactions to biased "news". "Common sense" and "reason" will get anyone through a storm. |
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“Perseverance” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 666 Rochester, N.Y ISP: Augusta, GA |
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1 President Bush's "White House Report on Abrupt Climate Change" is biased news? You and that "SteveFL" are certifiable nut cases. There's going to be alot of spilled toxins at or near coastal regions worldwide. The plain fact is the sea water is going rise sufficiently to cause havoc in our lifetimes. PS, your fellow nutcase candidate McCain is going to go down in flames. Wink, point and ubetcha!!! |
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“it'll only hurt a minute.” Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Comments: 399 |
If advocating common sense makes me a "nut case" I guess I'm guilty.
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I opened the link you supplied and read the section on "abrupt climate change" and it supported what I said to you. This is a normal pattern over the last 100,000 years.
It says human impacts "may" cause circulation changes that "could" impact climate, but it is totally inconclusive. The "possible" melting of the Greenland and West Antarctic Ice Sheets could also raise sea levels, but "it is expected to be a slow process that would take many centuries to complete". In fact, the last sentence in that section says "There is presently no consensus on the long-term future of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet or its contribution to sea level rise." I think it is safe to invest in property on the coast during our lifetimes, as long as you don't mind the hurricanes. The link was interesting, thanks for sending, but all you did was make my point????? After reading this, are you STILL insisting the sky is falling in terms of Global Warming in our lifetimes??? May I suggest kindly that you take another look at the information in your link?
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