Labor faces a moment of truth

The Man wrote:

Labor faceing a moment of truth...
Republicans in Nevada voting to lower the minumin wage ?.. Not a good thing for working folks trying to work there way out of poverty.
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As president, Obama would further raise the minimum wage, index it to inflation and increase the EITC to make sure that full-time workers can earn a living wage that allows them to raise their families out of poverty and pay for basic needs such as food, transportation, and housing -- things so many people take for granted.
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Obama, the president who is the working familys friend and advocat--
If I could not afford to pay my own people at least minumin wage I have no reason to be in buisness.
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I like this Obama fellow. He is more in tune with the heart of God, and what this nations standards were built on.
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Obama 2012, The only candidate that has the working classes backs.

That's one heck of a response, not a word of your own, nor one in response to what was posted.

Hype & Blame, were desperate and it's all we've got.

Keep Hate Alive - Vote Democrat

Ovomit 5 dollar a gallon wrote:

ovomit is our friend
thank you ovomit for the food stamps and $10 gas
anyone but
NoBlamer 2012

If you are paying ten dollars gallon, you are an idiot. But hey, we already knew that.

I did learn something from your post. I did not know Obama started the food stamp program.

RealDave wrote:

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If you are paying ten dollars gallon, you are an idiot. But hey, we already knew that.
I did learn something from your post. I did not know Obama started the food stamp program.

who said obama started the food stamp program.?

You mental twin vomitman said to thank Obama for food stamps.

kevlar wrote:

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That's one heck of a response, not a word of your own, nor one in response to what was posted.
Hype & Blame, were desperate and it's all we've got.
Keep Hate Alive - Vote Democrat

I like this Obama fellow. He is more in tune with the heart of God, and what this nations standards were built on.
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seems to me the republican party would be the haters out there.

Haters of the comman working man and his family.

Lets see now.
Republicans want to repeal heathcare for folks who are willing to pay but have been denied,, humm, seems they be more interested in protecting the big insurances record billion dollar profits than protecting the livlyhoods of the comman tax payer.

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hummm, I have heard over and over agian who republican like Puul Ryann want to take away my hard earned social security and raise the retirement age agian, some all the way to age 74.

Nope, that sounds like greedy little fingers wanting to give my hard work to wall street investers to steal once again.

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You see the facts are, the republicans surely only represent the very wealthy and greedy of our society, thats the facts.

Democrats are the only advocat for the american working family,

The proof and the evidence is overwhelming.

Are you stupid or something.?

The Man wrote:

<quoted text> I like this Obama fellow. He is more in tune with the heart of God, and what this nations standards were built on.
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seems to me the republican party would be the haters out there.
Haters of the comman working man and his family.
Lets see now.
Republicans want to repeal heathcare for folks who are willing to pay but have been denied,, humm, seems they be more interested in protecting the big insurances record billion dollar profits than protecting the livlyhoods of the comman tax payer.
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hummm, I have heard over and over agian who republican like Puul Ryann want to take away my hard earned social security and raise the retirement age agian, some all the way to age 74.
Nope, that sounds like greedy little fingers wanting to give my hard work to wall street investers to steal once again.
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You see the facts are, the republicans surely only represent the very wealthy and greedy of our society, thats the facts.
Democrats are the only advocat for the american working family,
The proof and the evidence is overwhelming.
Are you stupid or something.?

Yet you provide no proof or evidence, only opinion labeled as fact.

You choose, Liberty or Secular Socialism.

How does wasting taxpayer monies on more government programs help the American working family?

On health care:

"Republicans support the private practice of medicine and oppose socialized medicine in the form of a government-run universal health care system. Republicans
pledge that as we reform our health care system:

- We will protect citizens against any and all risky restructuring efforts that would complicate or ration health care.
- We will encourage health promotion and disease prevention.
- We will facilitate cooperation, not confrontation, among patients, providers, payers, and
all stakeholders in the health care system.
- We will not put government between patients and their health care providers.
- We will not put the system on a path that empowers Washington bureaucrats at the
expense of patients."

kevlar wrote:

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Yet you provide no proof or evidence, only opinion labeled as fact.
You choose, Liberty or Secular Socialism.
How does wasting taxpayer monies on more government programs help the American working family?
On health care:
"Republicans support the private practice of medicine and oppose socialized medicine in the form of a government-run universal health care system. Republicans
pledge that as we reform our health care system:
- We will protect citizens against any and all risky restructuring efforts that would complicate or ration health care.
- We will encourage health promotion and disease prevention.
- We will facilitate cooperation, not confrontation, among patients, providers, payers, and
all stakeholders in the health care system.
- We will not put government between patients and their health care providers.
- We will not put the system on a path that empowers Washington bureaucrats at the
expense of patients."

think the voters on the fence are more coincerned about the facts instead of drummed up hype/..
Here are the facts'
In the six months before I took office, we lost nearly 4 million jobs.
And we lost another 4 million before our policies were in full effect.
Those are the facts.
But so are these. In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than 3 million jobs.
Last year, they created the most jobs since 2005.
American manufacturers are hiring again, creating jobs for the first time since the late 1990s.
Together, we’ve agreed to cut the deficit by more than $2 trillion. And we’ve put in place new rules to hold Wall Street accountable, so a crisis like this never happens again.
The state of our union is getting stronger, and we’ve come too far to turn back now.
As long as I’m president, I will work with anyone in this chamber to build on this momentum. But I intend to fight obstruction with action, and I will oppose any effort to return to the very same policies that brought on this economic crisis in the first place.
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Facts
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Barack Obama Created More Jobs in 2010 Than Bush Did in His Entire Presidency
Bill Clinton Raised Taxes on the Rich and Created 23 Million Jobs
George W. Bush Cut the Tax Rate for the Rich and Created Only 3 Million Jobs
Jimmy Carter Created 7.5 Million More Jobs Than George W. Bush
Bill Clinton Created 7.1 Million More Jobs Than Ronald Reagan
Tax cuts for the Rich Do Not Create Jobs
Spending Cuts Do Not Create Jobs
Consumer Demand Creates Jobs
The Federal Government Does Create Jobs, Over 2 Million to Be Exact
Government Does Create Private Sector Jobs
More Private Sector Jobs Were Created Than Government Jobs So Far in 2011
The Financial Crisis Started in 2008 Under Bush, Not Obama
The Recession Started in 2007 Under Bush, Not Obama
Obama Did Not Make the Recession Worse, it Ended in 2009
Republicans Support the Outsourcing of American Jobs
Republicans Voted to Repeal the Minimum Wage
Many Republicans Support Repealing Child Labor Laws
Many Corporations Lay Off Thousands of Employees in Times of Record Profits
The House GOP has Created 0 Jobs and Voted to Kill Over 1.9 Million Jobs Since Winning Control of the House in 2010 on the Promise of Job Creation
The Average Income Growth Rate is Much Higher Under Democrats Than Republicans
Over the Past 60 Years, Democratic Presidents Have Created More Jobs Than Republican Presidents .
Obama, one of the best president in American history.

-Exactly how stupid are you people who bash president Obama,

We have here a president that inherited two wars, and major economic crisis.

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He has brought this nation a long way in a very short time.

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The facts dont lie.

Obama 2012 .

The ststement that ;FACTS" and nothing confuses the conservatives more than the facts.

must have some merit

RealDave wrote:

You mental twin vomitman said to thank Obama for food stamps.

so no one said that obama started the food stamp program, thanks.

Ovomit 5 dollar a gallon wrote:

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my question did not require a question, or two..
which one of these words did you find so difficut to understand ?
please select all that apply
(_) pre
(_) stimulus

Obviously by now you have figured out how stupid you looked asking that question because you have been working overtime to avoid estabishing a timeline.

The Man wrote:

<quoted text>But what we've got to make absolutely certain of is that, in that competition, we are hard bargainers.
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You know, I'm always struck by the Bush administration touting that this is the MBA president and they're such great businessmen, and they get taken to the cleaners in a lot of these trade agreements."
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"Obama will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs.
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He will use trade agreements to spread improved labor and environmental standards around the world.
vote obama 2012.

And he is well on the way to meeting his goal of doubling exports in five years. Exporting is the best thing we can do for the economy.

RealDave wrote:

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If you are paying ten dollars gallon, you are an idiot. But hey, we already knew that.
I did learn something from your post. I did not know Obama started the food stamp program.

He is the kind of partisan hack that would buy one gallon for $10 from his buddy just so he could say he did it.

Some people may be mistaken; some people may be incorrect; some people may say something they really don't know enough about; but there is one thing for sure and that is he is a flat out liar.

kevlar wrote:

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Yet you provide no proof or evidence, only opinion labeled as fact.
You choose, Liberty or Secular Socialism.
How does wasting taxpayer monies on more government programs help the American working family?
On health care:
"Republicans support the private practice of medicine and oppose socialized medicine in the form of a government-run universal health care system. Republicans
pledge that as we reform our health care system:
- We will protect citizens against any and all risky restructuring efforts that would complicate or ration health care.
- We will encourage health promotion and disease prevention.
- We will facilitate cooperation, not confrontation, among patients, providers, payers, and
all stakeholders in the health care system.
- We will not put government between patients and their health care providers.
- We will not put the system on a path that empowers Washington bureaucrats at the
expense of patients."

First, America has been socialist since the founding. Government officials chose more of those three pillars of the American Government than voters did. That is government of the government isn't it? And we don't even have to get to Fire and Police Departments or the education system which are all socialist.

Second, Nice to hear the Republican Party is adamant about getting rid of the VA Healthcare System - The third largest totally socialist system in the world.

But if you wanted honesty, the Democrat proposal is about insurance, not the healthcare system.

Germany, France and Japan all have more free-market, capitalist, for profit healthcare providers as a percentage of their total system than the US did in 2007. And that is what you want to stick with? REALLY?

And each of those countries pay a lot less per person than the US does.

jw in the grove wrote:

<quoted text>so no one said that obama started the food stamp program, thanks.

Why would any thanks be due to Obama for something that was in place before he took office and there have been no rule changes made that can be attributed to Obama?

The poster must have been misinformed as to when Food Stamps started and who was responsible.

jw in the grove wrote:

<quoted text>so no one said that obama started the food stamp program, thanks.

Sure he did.

Its in the meaning.

If I say, JW is an dumbass, aren't I calling you stupid even though I did not use those exact words?

Ovomit 5 dollar a gallon wrote:

ovomit is our friend
thank you ovomit for the food stamps and $10 gas
anyone but
NoBlamer 2012

Look, vomitman, here is where you said it.

enough wrote:

Fire them all and start over.

Anyone can make a President Obama Speech to the Nation with this color light-up device. Just press the Red Key for Middle Class Working Families. Press the Yellow Key for We Inherited This Mess from the Previous Administration. Press the Green Key for Those More Fortunate Should Pay Their Fair Share of Taxes. And press the Blue Key for The Republicans Are Only Interested in Protecting Their Wealthy Patrons.
What this country really needs in true leadership.....not a whiner

RealDave wrote:

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If you are paying ten dollars gallon, you are an idiot. But hey, we already knew that.
I did learn something from your post. I did not know Obama started the food stamp program.

He did not

okboston wrote:

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First, America has been socialist since the founding. Government officials chose more of those three pillars of the American Government than voters did. That is government of the government isn't it? And we don't even have to get to Fire and Police Departments or the education system which are all socialist.
Second, Nice to hear the Republican Party is adamant about getting rid of the VA Healthcare System - The third largest totally socialist system in the world.
But if you wanted honesty, the Democrat proposal is about insurance, not the healthcare system.
Germany, France and Japan all have more free-market, capitalist, for profit healthcare providers as a percentage of their total system than the US did in 2007. And that is what you want to stick with? REALLY?
And each of those countries pay a lot less per person than the US does.

Another example of taking the extreme position to support your BS.

That is two examples to your one denial.

This is a capitalist country, not a socialist one.

Even the Socialist Labor Party doesn't call our nation socialist despite government ownership of some hospitals, libraries, transportation systems, utilities, public schools, and state college and university systems.

"Socialism is the revenge of the incompetent. It is the vain hope that, "because I am incompetent to make it in the market, I can use political power to coerce from the productive an income for myself." The socialist then adds a fake veneer of altruism to that little plan by saying, "and we'll take care of The Poor," or The Environment, or whatever the self-aggrandizing ruse happens to be today. Our satisfied leftist then goes and gets a safe government job enforcing just that."

kevlar wrote:

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Another example of taking the extreme position to support your BS.
That is two examples to your one denial.
This is a capitalist country, not a socialist one.
Even the Socialist Labor Party doesn't call our nation socialist despite government ownership of some hospitals, libraries, transportation systems, utilities, public schools, and state college and university systems.
"Socialism is the revenge of the incompetent. It is the vain hope that, "because I am incompetent to make it in the market, I can use political power to coerce from the productive an income for myself." The socialist then adds a fake veneer of altruism to that little plan by saying, "and we'll take care of The Poor," or The Environment, or whatever the self-aggrandizing ruse happens to be today. Our satisfied leftist then goes and gets a safe government job enforcing just that."

We have a blended economy and a socialist government.

Socialism works better..........in some things. That is why we use it for some things and not others. Fire Departments are a good example. When people live in close together then you want the fire put out at your neighbors whether or not he is current on his taxes.

The same goes for Police Forces and other LE agencies as well as education.

Tell you what though, why don't you explain the difference between us and France or Germany or even Italy when it comes to socialism? Those countries are branded by the right as socialist, you should have no problem doing it.

okboston wrote:

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And he is well on the way to meeting his goal of doubling exports in five years. Exporting is the best thing we can do for the economy.

yep, just to mention one of over 150 admendments that brought us out from under a republican Quagmire,