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<quoted text>I am a psychotic Mormon who is really scared that I am also an AntiChristian like the filthy Romneys.
You are all nuts and not any fun at parties.

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The virulent greed of Paul Ayn Rand Ryan liar, sociopath, greedy sob and scumbag:

"“Ryan turns out, upon closer inspection, not to be a purifying ideologue, but rather a young, power-hungry, ladder-climbing trimmer.” The self-styled deficit cutter backed W.’s deficit-exploding agenda, and the tut-tutting critic of the Obama stimulus grabbed for the president’s stimulus money

...Mitt Romney expects his running mate to help deliver the Catholic vote and smooth over any discomfort among Catholics about Mormonism.(This is the first major-party ticket to go Protestant-less.) Yet after Ryan claimed his budget was shaped by his faith, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops deemed it immoral." NYT

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Dr Freud wrote:
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Okay. Now, do you believe everything your government tells you?
If so, why? If not, why not?
I wouldn't believe everything any government tells you but I would not believe anything YOUR government tells you....I believe that you don't attack your government unless it has proven deciet.

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ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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I understand average citizens just fine,
Then you agree that an average citizen does NOT train the military, or special forces...right?
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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apparently you are a below average citizens.
How is that "apparent"?
Can you be specific?
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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I answer your questions with three examples
...actually, you gave 11 examples!
YET, not even ONE of them answered my question!
"I find it hard to understand how an >average< citizen can use his gun unless it's in his SHEETS, if he is accosted while ASLEEP< and awakes with a gun to his head?"

NOT ONE of the "stories" you posted meets those qualifications...and you know it!
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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and you whine you don't understand.
When did I ever say "I don't understand"?
I understand PERFECTLY it's so rare, that you couldn't find ONE story that meets my criteria!
Of ALL your links, they either lack being ASLEEP, the intruder lacks a gun, they are NOT average citizens, they were outside, etc...NOT ONE of your links was the person ALSEEP, or an average citizen.
It is YOU that seems to not understand:)
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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Have you figured out the simple math yet, or will you ignore that one and later claim we never had that post.
What are you talking about?
Are you drunk?

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PROTECT GUN RIGHTS wrote:
Guns are GREAT
Guns do NOT kill, Diversity do.
HA!
This is PRICELESS!

Reminds me of the Bush quote:
""Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"

lol

Computer -$1,300.00
Internet -$40.00
Topix - free
Gun nut making himself appear dumb - PRICELESS!

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spider1954 wrote:
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BECAUSE I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAFETY IN THIS COUNTRY.
Thats quite right, I agree,,, Sooo who ensures that right?,,,YOU?,,,or do you entrust it to strangers.
For the 100th time....ME!

I am FOR guns, and the right to bear arms:)

Can you READ?
I have said that probably 550 times!

Why would I intrust it to strangers?

Regulating GUNS, preventing the criminally insane, and violent felons from having guns STILL means we have the right to SAFETY!

Where and WHY do you confuse the two?

What is your point here?
PROTECT GUN RIGHTS

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#75039
Aug 20, 2012
 
I Love Guns.
Woman love Strong Man with Gun.
In Pants and in Hand.
Guns rule.....
COWBOY 4EVER...
Good Aussies

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Aug 20, 2012
 
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>For the 100th time....ME!
I am FOR guns, and the right to bear arms:)
Can you READ?
I have said that probably 550 times!
Why would I intrust it to strangers?
Regulating GUNS, preventing the criminally insane, and violent felons from having guns STILL means we have the right to SAFETY!
Where and WHY do you confuse the two?
What is your point here?
If you try to talk sense to satanic communists you're going to lose.

All they care about is their power and they see us as inferior animals that need to be managed.

They are psychotic egomaniacs.

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Aug 20, 2012
 
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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of the 5 worst school shootings in Europe in the past decade. 3 occured in Germany.
...and how many in the UK, after the gun ban?
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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Which has some of the strictest gun control laws in Europe.
PAY ATTENTION!
The poster clearly said:
"if we destroyed 99% of those guns and tracked down their owners, their would be less shootings all over the U.S. and in those "GUN FREE ZONES".
You seem to be confused with "strict laws" and DESTROYING (banning) gun altogether!

MOSTLY, Germany is not some of the "strictest"....why do you lie so much?
"GERMANY: In 1972 the Federal Weapons Act revised much of the regulations in Germany.
firearms ownership license allows for the purchasing of weapons by those over the age of 18. Convicted felons, those with a mental disability or those deemed unreliable are denied licenses. The second tier is a firearms carry permit which allows concealed or open carry in public. The permits are usually only issued to individuals with a particular need; such as persons at risk, money couriers, etc."

LOL! ouch!
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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The worst mass shooting in Europe occured in Norway, with even stronger gun control than Germany.
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YET ANOTHER LIE!!!!!!!
"NORWAY: While having a large number of civilian owned guns, Norway has a low rate of crimes which involve firearms.A large number of unregistered shotguns are still in private homes (est. 500.000), as shotguns were an "over the counter" product earlier until 1989, and no registration was required."

THE WORST IN EUROPE EVER happened in Russia!
In Moscow alone, some 400,000 people legally keep 470,000 weapons!
385 killed in 2004 school shooting!
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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All in gun free zones.
Prove it?!
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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One of the biggest mass killing in Japan, where guns are banned, happened when a guy used his truck and a knife to kill 10 and wound dozens.
How often does that happen in Japan?
A LOT less than the US...eh?
IN FACT, Japan has the LOWEST crime (ALL CRIME) rate of any first world country!
...and average gun death 0-7!
WOW!
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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If you destroyed 99% of the guns, then we could just buy more from the Russians and China.
Riiiiiiiiiight, because us 'average citizens" ALL have connections in Russia and China, and are able to smuggle guns without recourse!
LOL!
You're pathetic and desperate!
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You will Never catch my friend.

Indian people help each other.

Puneet will come to Australia many time to see friends and you will never get him.
Australia to dumb.

Home again happy and free.

Ha Ha.

Home again safe and sound.

Australia is so easy to get into with fake ID.

My friend Puneet will soon have his fourth holiday in Australia and Australia will never know.

to late Puneet Puneet just arrived in India and on his way home.

to bad Australia missed out again.

dumb Australia.
Leave for Indian in ? HOURS.

Bye Australia until next holiday.

Catch me if you can.

You have to love India.

Dumb Australia.

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Aug 20, 2012
 
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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you just compared drinking (legal) with drunk driving (illegal)
PAY ATTENTION!
The OTHER poster said:
"What's wrong with doing away with drug laws?"
and
"How would that diminish a citizen's freedoms and rights?"

I compared it to LAWS on DRINKING!
We have LAWS on drinking (driving), locations, and age, etc....BECAUSE, it can effect my RIGHT to safety!
Hence: when I drive!
It has EVERYTHING to do with answering his question!

TRY TO KEEP UP!
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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Like when you feel that wearing a gun is just as dangerous as having one being shot at you.
Liar, can you point me to where I EVER said that< liar?
Geesh, do gun nuts have an honest bone in their bodies...or is it just you?
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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PLease explain how someone that sits at home and snorts their brains out is dangerous to the public
One of the dangers would be the BURDEN drug addicts put on society!
No?
More kids would be doing it!
Drugs can cause effects like illnesses, which can be expensive for society to cure.
Use of drugs during pregnancy will increase the likelihood of children with bad school results and, when grown up, unemployed.
Drug users in GENERAL are unemployed.
The high costs of narcotics abuse can cause economic catastrophe for the addict.
The high costs often cause other criminality, which causes extensive damage.
Alcohol and drugs can make people behave in unsafe, irresponsible and aggressive way, and are therefore forbidden in combination with driving, etc.
They usually LEAVE that table after they "snort"...and cause pain to others.
They are BAD HORRIBLE parents...sleeping and drugging when they need to watch their kids. Foster care would SKY ROCKET!
More abused and children taken advantage of!
Because of the bad effects of narcotics on people and society, most countries make selling and using narcotics illegal.

Any questions?

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Aquarius-WY wrote:
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A free person can do whatever they wish providing they do not infringe upon the rights of others..
Thta's the POINT!
How many "addicts" do you know that don't infringe on others?
One of the dangers would be the BURDEN drug addicts put on society!
No?
More kids would be doing it!
Drugs can cause effects like illnesses, which can be expensive for society to cure.
Use of drugs during pregnancy will increase the likelihood of children with bad school results and, when grown up, unemployed.
Drug users in GENERAL are unemployed.
The high costs of narcotics abuse can cause economic catastrophe for the addict.
The high costs often cause other criminality, which causes extensive damage.
Alcohol and drugs can make people behave in unsafe, irresponsible and aggressive way, and are therefore forbidden in combination with driving, etc.
They usually LEAVE that table after they "snort"...and cause pain to others.
They are BAD HORRIBLE parents...sleeping and drugging when they need to watch their kids. Foster care would SKY ROCKET!
More abused and children taken advantage of!
Because of the bad effects of narcotics on people and society, most countries make selling and using narcotics illegal.
You're ignorant to think otherwise...and EVERY COUNTRY agrees:)
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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There is no such thing as "I have the RIGHT to SAFETY in this country."
In the words of the Declaration of Independence:
"it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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So what if drugs are harmful and destroy lives ... it is THEIR lives that are being destroyed
You seem to be too dumb to know the BURDEN that addicts put on society, their children, and others children!
Sad really:(
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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If homosexuality is OK and gays cause no harm to others or their rights, then so too are drugs likewise.
Are you really comparing PEOPLE (living human beings) to drugs (man made chemicals)?
OMG...you are ignorant!
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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gays ... if they avoid an attempt to force it upon others who disagree with the choice.
Ummm, FYI: That would be RAPE!
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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do crank and crack to your heart's content ... PROVIDING ... you keep it in your own home or circle.
How many drug addicts do you know that "stay at home"?
What happens when they run out of crank? They would LEAVE in a heartbeat to get another hit!
...and you know it!
Also, they would have to BUY it somewhere, and LEAVE home to do that...eh?
ALSO< what kind of parenting skills do you suppose all these addicts will have? and what effect do you think that will have on society and future society?
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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What makes you so damn supportive Health care is NOT a right personal choice..
Health care is a RIGHT, and EVERY developed country in the WORLD thinks so too!
So, your opinion is moot, and don't mean much!
I am NOT supportive of drug addicts negative choices (YOU ARE)...you want them to be able to do it!
That sounds like support to me!
I want it to be ILLEGAL!...get it?
Are you confused?
...and I care because it is a burden on our society, children, and future.

To disagree is ignorant!
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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one person or group of persons is capable NOT of granting to another ...
Then why do you gun nuts always QUOTE the founding fathers, and the MAN MADE constitution?
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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A person's rights are every bit a part and parcel of a person as their arms are ... bare or not.
"Guns" have nothing to do with that!
You still have the right to protect yourself, even without a gun. and WAAAAY before guns came about:)
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Light Bearer wrote:
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Perhaps you need a pair of steel shoulder blades. "There is a pedlar aboard with a crushing pack"
You should pedal your wares elsewhere.
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Ahomana wrote:
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I wouldn't believe everything any government tells you but I would not believe anything YOUR government tells you....I believe that you don't attack your government unless it has proven deciet.
I believe nothing ANY government says, PERIOD.
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Good Aussies wrote:
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If you try to talk sense to satanic communists you're going to lose.
All they care about is their power and they see us as inferior animals that need to be managed.
They are psychotic egomaniacs.
You're speaking OF the poster,'snow bunny.'

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Armed Veteran wrote:
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Well, maybe not here. But our govt has been known to hand them out like candy to Mexican drug cartels.
heh heh, damn good point. Obama and Holder used tax payer money and gave the money to criminals to buy guns to ship to mexico.

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Ramafuchs wrote:
Comrade
i am a guy without any virtues or vices or wealthy.......
What I wish to expose in this thread is this.
Guns are for STUPID PEOPLE
That is correct. When stupid people try to hurt others, we use guns to stop them.

Works great, you should try it.

Only the pistol allows the most helpless among us to stop predators from harming them. No other tool is as efficient and easy to use.

In your world, only the thug and noble could defend themselves well. They had time to practice with their edged weapons.

With the pistol, you only need to know how to pull a trigger and hit a bad guy 3 feet away.

God created man,

Col Colt made them equal!

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Aug 20, 2012
 
Ramafuchs wrote:
Let me expose my ignorance further.
In Germany where i live there are are lot of homeless people who seek shelter in the cold and warm climate to take a nap.
They have no guns and those helpless victims of the banal civilization is a subject all the intellectuals should bestow their attentions.
It is not the case.
they are left overs lost their home and family and resort to drink the beer and sleep without guns.
there are more churches and Mosques and Hindu temples in Germany.
Now it is summer. But in winter season the climate will not be congenial and bitting cold and those gun-less victims of this civilization sleep outside. Some leave without any guns and trace our noble globe.
System with flags and guns and parochial consumerism is rotten
Riddle me this Batman,
if Germany has such great gun control laws, then why has Germany had 3 of the worst 5 mass school shootings, at a NO GUN ZONE, in Europe for the past ten years.

The 3 worst mass shootings, and you guys have great gin control.

What happened???

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Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>Thta's the POINT!
How many "addicts" do you know that don't infringe on others?
One of the dangers would be the BURDEN drug addicts put on society!
No?
More kids would be doing it!
Drugs can cause effects like illnesses, which can be expensive for society to cure.
Use of drugs during pregnancy will increase the likelihood of children with bad school results and, when grown up, unemployed.
Drug users in GENERAL are unemployed.
The high costs of narcotics abuse can cause economic catastrophe for the addict.
The high costs often cause other criminality, which causes extensive damage.
Alcohol and drugs can make people behave in unsafe, irresponsible and aggressive way, and are therefore forbidden in combination with driving, etc.
They usually LEAVE that table after they "snort"...and cause pain to others.
They are BAD HORRIBLE parents...sleeping and drugging when they need to watch their kids. Foster care would SKY ROCKET!
More abused and children taken advantage of!
Because of the bad effects of narcotics on people and society, most countries make selling and using narcotics illegal.
You're ignorant to think otherwise...and EVERY COUNTRY agrees:)
<quoted text>In the words of the Declaration of Independence:
"it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
<quoted text>
You seem to be too dumb to know the BURDEN that addicts put on society, their children, and others children!
Sad really:(
<quoted text>Are you really comparing PEOPLE (living human beings) to drugs (man made chemicals)?
OMG...you are ignorant!
<quoted text>Ummm, FYI: That would be RAPE!
<quoted text>How many drug addicts do you know that "stay at home"?
What happens when they run out of crank? They would LEAVE in a heartbeat to get another hit!
...and you know it!
Also, they would have to BUY it somewhere, and LEAVE home to do that...eh?
ALSO< what kind of parenting skills do you suppose all these addicts will have? and what effect do you think that will have on society and future society?
<quoted text>Health care is a RIGHT, and EVERY developed country in the WORLD thinks so too!
So, your opinion is moot, and don't mean much!
I am NOT supportive of drug addicts negative choices (YOU ARE)...you want them to be able to do it!
That sounds like support to me!
I want it to be ILLEGAL!...get it?
Are you confused?
...and I care because it is a burden on our society, children, and future.
To disagree is ignorant!
<quoted text>Then why do you gun nuts always QUOTE the founding fathers, and the MAN MADE constitution?
<quoted text>
"Guns" have nothing to do with that!
You still have the right to protect yourself, even without a gun. and WAAAAY before guns came about:)
Healthcare:
You believe you have the right to another sovereign free citizen's knowledge and skill? I hope your skill never becomes the right of the public. Other nations are collectivist nations.

“Now thats a tin hat!”

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Dr Freud wrote:
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"magine the world without guns" was a bumper sticker that began making the rounds after the murder of ex-Beatle John Lennon on December 18, 1980. Last year, Lennon's widow, Yoko Ono, followed up on that sentiment by announcing she would become a spokeswoman for Handgun Control, Inc.(which later changed its name to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, and which was previously named the National Council to Control Handguns).
So let's try hard to imagine what a world without guns would look like. It isn't hard to do. But be forewarned: It's not a pretty picture."
http://www.davekopel.com/NRO/2001/A-World-Wit...
Awesome article, blah should have it tattooed on his forehead

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