Mitt Romney's Harry Reid problem

Talk of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid 's allegation that Mitt Romney had not paid any taxes at all for 10 years dominated the Sunday talk show circuit as Republicans denounced the charge. Full Story
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#367 Aug 8, 2012
Joe LaForm wrote:
You know what the conservatives' problem with Romney is? He's a turd. They don't really like him. But they have nobody else. You know what they say. You can't polish a turd but you roll it in glitter. And you guys don't have enough glitter.
Let me try that.
You know what the liberals' problem with Obama is? He's a lying turd. They don't really like him. But they have nobody else. You know what they say. You can't polish a lying turd but you roll it in glitter. And you guys don't have enough glitter but you certainly have a lot of lying turd.

"Obama has been less than honest about many things. Some of his biggest distortions should be the subject of sustained soul- searching on the part of the media.
For instance, as New York Times reporter Janny Scott first reported over a year ago, Obama lied about his cancer-stricken mother being denied coverage for her pre-existing condition. Yes, he was close to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and former terrorist Bill Ayers. Yes, he was a member of the socialist New Party (as my National Review colleague Stanley Kurtz has documented).

In the spirit of charity, some of the lies can be chalked up, at least in part, to fanciful family narratives. Obama claims his maternal grandfather fought in Patton’s army and liberated Nazi death camps. He says his paternal grandfather was tortured by the British imperialists in Kenya. He’s claimed his Indonesian stepgrandfather was killed by the Dutch while fighting for independence. None of that is true.

What I find more interesting are the lies Obama tells not so much about himself, but about society. In “Dreams from My Father,” Obama tells readers that he struggled with racism and racial alienation all his life. He wasn’t a starter on his high school basketball team because he played “black” while his coach coached “white.” He confabulated a black friend in high school who, like himself, was shunned for racial reasons. He wrote of a “big fight” with a white ex-girlfriend who, after seeing a racially charged play,“started talking about why black people were so angry all the time.”

As Maraniss methodically shows, these and other tales of racial woe were false. His coach didn’t start him because he wasn’t good enough to start. His friend in high school was half-Japanese, not black, and neither of them were racially ostracized. The girlfriend, Genevieve Cook, never saw the play and never said anything of the sort. And so on."

Jonah Goldberg

Barack Obama, the Liar King
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#369 Aug 8, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
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Yes, the transparency irony should not be lost with the voters!
Now if Obama would release his college records from 29 years ago that are sealed we can gather around in a circle and all sing Kumbaya.

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#370 Aug 8, 2012
"Reid did this for a single reason: to get Mitt Romney to release his tax returns. He is not seeking to make himself popular. Romney has yet to articulate a compelling rationale for secrecy, other than a misplaced desire for "privacy" in the midst of a presidential run. Republicans are not scoring points by stating the obvious: yes, Reid's allegation is unsubstantiated. But only one person can provide the necessary documentation: Romney. Republicans should be leaning on Romney to release the returns rather than focusing their ire on Reid."
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#371 Aug 8, 2012
Responsibility wrote:
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Yes, the transparency irony should not be lost with the voters!
From 2000 to 2006 the Obamas never made less than $207,000 with an average of about $500,000 a year.

Their charitable contributions for those years were-
1.0%,.5%,.4%, 1.4%, 1.2%,4.7%, 6.1%


Apparently Barack Obama believes in the distribution of wealth, just not his own wealth, which seems to be a common trait among many liberals.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#372 Aug 8, 2012
TSM wrote:
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OKB it’s this easy Mitt will release more Tax Returns when Obama Releases his College Transcripts now that’s Fairness!! OKB will you join me in demanding Obama to release his College Transcripts!! Let’s not forget Obama made the Pledge that his Administration would be the most Transparent Administration in History, remember Obama receive his Transparency Award behind Closed Doors!! I guess that’s one of those Liberals/Democrats thing “ Do as I Say not as I Do”…Right!!
BIRTHER NUT.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Philadelphia, PA

#373 Aug 8, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Yes, and what contributes to our staying in a collapsed mode. Notice how since tghe election of 2010 the nation just stopped making progress?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-07/the-...
LOL - Stopped making progress? Really? What actually happened is that with the Republicans in charge of the House, Obama was STOPPED from doing further damage to the economy, until then, despite what he likes to whine about, he had a filibuster proof MAJORITY IN BOTH SENATE AND HOUSE, he could have done whatever he wanted, unfortunately for him, enough democrats had the brains God gave them and voted once in a while to stop some of his zanier plans. Why wasn't a budget passed even when he had the majority? Ever ask yourself that? Cap and Trade couldn't get passed, he took care of that with an Ex. Order, Card Check couldn't get passed and he took care of that by stacking the board. Spin all you want, the facts do NOT support your statement.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#374 Aug 8, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Now if Obama would release his college records from 29 years ago that are sealed we can gather around in a circle and all sing Kumbaya.
BIRTHER NUT.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#375 Aug 8, 2012
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
"Reid did this for a single reason: to get Mitt Romney to release his tax returns. He is not seeking to make himself popular. Romney has yet to articulate a compelling rationale for secrecy, other than a misplaced desire for "privacy" in the midst of a presidential run. Republicans are not scoring points by stating the obvious: yes, Reid's allegation is unsubstantiated. But only one person can provide the necessary documentation: Romney. Republicans should be leaning on Romney to release the returns rather than focusing their ire on Reid."
Anything to deflect from the fact that the Obama administration can't turn the economy around with its trickle up poverty theory of economics. The man and his policies are a disaster for the nation. Voting for him again is like putting the Titanic in reverse and slamming the iceberg a second time.

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Philadelphia, PA

#376 Aug 8, 2012
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
"Reid did this for a single reason: to get Mitt Romney to release his tax returns. He is not seeking to make himself popular. Romney has yet to articulate a compelling rationale for secrecy, other than a misplaced desire for "privacy" in the midst of a presidential run. Republicans are not scoring points by stating the obvious: yes, Reid's allegation is unsubstantiated. But only one person can provide the necessary documentation: Romney. Republicans should be leaning on Romney to release the returns rather than focusing their ire on Reid."
Wow, an endorsement for a proven liar, you must be sooooo proud of your party, what's next? He's already been accused of murder, falsely of course, but what the heck, a good lie is well received by the brain dead lemmings that occupy the democratic party nowadays. Harry's comment is not only unsubstantiated, it's A BALD FACED LIE, something the democrat party is particularly good at. And you condone it? Wow, well, that says a lot about you then, doesn't it. How about we say that we got an phone call from someone who knows you and they said that you killed a man and buried him in the woods. Now, YOU have the responsibility to dig up the woods, find no body to PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE. What a crock! And no dearie, it makes no difference that you are not running for president, you have been ACCUSED you must now prove your innocence.

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#377 Aug 8, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Let me try that.
You know what the liberals' problem with Obama is? He's a lying turd. They don't really like him. But they have nobody else. You know what they say. You can't polish a lying turd but you roll it in glitter. And you guys don't have enough glitter but you certainly have a lot of lying turd.
redacted for space:
We went over this before, and here you are AGAIN, trying to MISLEAD your fellow Americans with debunked LIES!

1. Regarding his mother being DENIED coverage.
Why not be honest, and report the TRUE facts?
He NEVER said she was DENIED, he said she had to FIGHT for it!
I told you this before....
During the 2008 campaign, Obama frequently suggested his mother had to fight with her health-insurance company for treatment of her cancer because it considered her disease to be a pre-existing condition. I
Obama said:
“For my mother to die of cancer at the age of 53 and have to spend the last months of her life in the hospital room arguing with insurance companies because they’re saying that this may be a pre-existing condition and they don’t have to pay her treatment, there’s something fundamentally wrong about that.”

Why do you lie so much?

2. Obama a member of the Socialist Party?
Stanley Kurtz took a organization, and called it the SOCIALIST PARTY, when it is not a socialist party!
lol
Kurtz objections boil down to the fact that the American political world won't accept his definition of what socialism is.
Rogers described the party's platform including national health insurance and wage insurance, quality education, and environmentalism. Those are positions that basically placed the New Party, ideologically, well within the left half of the Democratic Party. The aim, in fact, was to be the "conscience of the Democratic Party," Rogers said, though they also endorsed the occasional Republican.
As for "socialist"?
"'Socialist' means is you try to whatever extent to move the means of production under public ownership," Rogers said. "The New Party was never about that."
Kurtz has obsessively attempted to paint Obama as a secret radical since 2008, often by connecting him to the New Party.

3. His father WAS in Pattons army!
Prove that he wasn't?
Prove that his step father was not tortured?
Can you?

4. You said:
"His coach didn’t start him because he wasn’t good enough to start. "
Prove that he wasn't good enough to start, and that his coach wasn't racist?
Why would the ONLY boys not able to start, be the ones that is half black, and black/Japanese?

"His friend in high school was half-Japanese, not black"
He was Half black and HALF Japanese....try to be honest here.
Why are you so dishonest?

" and neither of them were racially ostracized"
How do you know? Were you there?

" The girlfriend, Genevieve Cook, never saw the play and never said anything of the sort."
Do you honestly think she'd admit being a RACIST?
lol

MOSTLY...is this all you got as proof that Obama is a "dirty liar?
Stories passed down from childhood?
Is that it?
WOW!
lol

...not to mention the fact that they're DEBUNKED!

You are as unpatriotic as it gets!
To mislead fellow Americans is the only DIRTY LIE here!

“Old 16th Graveyard hole”

Since: Nov 11

Philadelphia, PA

#378 Aug 8, 2012
Latest example of how low the democrat party can sink, the latest attack add states that because Bane allowed a company to go bankrupt in 2001 or 2002, and a man lost his job and health insurance his wife died. Sounds bad right?

Here's the facts:

Romney left Bane in 1999

Bane's investment in the company kept it alive for several years before it went bankrupt (man could have lost his job earlier without the help of Bane)

Company went bankrupt in 2001 or 2002, AFTER Romney left to work on the Olympics.

Man's wife STILL HAD A JOB AND HEALTH BENEFITS until she was laid off several years after that.

Woman DID get health care, went to hospital in 2006 for treatment where the cancer was discovered and she died. SEVEN YEARS AFTER ROMNEY LEFT BANE.
About 2 years after she was laid off from her job with benefits.

Yet this lying sack of shite, former Obama administration worker BTW, tries to connect the death of a woman, 7 years after the fact, with Romney. Lies, lies and more lies, that's all we can expect out of this administration and STILL the lemmings jump up, time after time, and defend this practice.

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#380 Aug 8, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Anything to deflect from the fact that the Obama administration can't turn the economy around with its trickle up poverty theory of economics. The man and his policies are a disaster for the nation. Voting for him again is like putting the Titanic in reverse and slamming the iceberg a second time.
Well we already know the trickle >down< theory based on REPUBLICAN ideas caused a RECESSION!
YET, since Obama took office:
Saved the economy, saved the auto industry, oil production at an 8 year high, jobless rate down, dow UP, stock market UP, pulled troops from Iraq, oh...and he got Bin Laden!
The only people whom say the numbers IMPROVING, and moving in the right direction is "a disaster" are REPUBLICANS!
lol

Sorry, but the PROOF is in the pudding:)

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#381 Aug 8, 2012
I knew a guy that was half black and half japanese, and every December 7th, he attacked Pearl Bailey.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#382 Aug 8, 2012
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
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We went over this before, and here you are AGAIN, trying to MISLEAD your fellow Americans with debunked LIES!
President is a proven liar.

Further many people fight with their insurance companies .It is a time honored American tradition.

"The New Party was a radical left organization, established in 1992, to amalgamate far left groups and push the United States into socialism by forcing the Democratic Party to the left. It was an attempt to regroup the forces on the left in a new strategy to take power, burrowing from within. The party only lasted until 1998, when its strategy of "fusion" failed to withstand a Supreme Court ruling. But dissolving the party didn't stop the membership, including Barack Obama, from continuing to move the Democrats leftward with spectacular success."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/a...

Barack Obama and the New Party
Strong in the mid to late 1990s the New Party was an electoral alliance dedicated to electing leftist candidates to office-usually through the Democratic Party.
Two organizations formed the backbone of the New Party- the Democratic Socialists of America and the U.S.'s largest radical organization, ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now ). Radical labor union SEIU also had considerable input, as did members of the Communist Party USA breakaway group, Committees of Correspondence.
Another very strong influence was the far left Washington DC based "think tank" the Institute for Policy Studies.
In Chicago, the New Party founded an equally radical "sister organization" Progressive Chicago.
There is strong evidence that Barack Obama was a member of both organizations.
http://keywiki.org/index.php/Barack_Obama_and...

Economist Thomas Sowell says Barack Obama is not a socialist, which is good, but a fascist, which is worse.
bottlecap

Tampa, FL

#383 Aug 8, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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Your religion (assuming you are Christian) has caused more deaths in Africa through the killings of homosexuals and the spread of AIDS by educating African's that a rubber is evil than the KKK has.
Feel better now?
Soo you are a JESUS HATER; no surprise there. The FACT remains that "Uncle Tom" Obama HAS CAUSED, with his illegal WAR in Libya, more lynchings, beatings and persecution of blacks than the KKK.

And you support him.

Church teachings of sex thru marriage greatly curtails the spread of AIDS, and SAVING MILLIONS of lives.
nilly welson

Greeley, CO

#384 Aug 8, 2012
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
"Reid did this for a single reason: to get Mitt Romney to release his tax returns. He is not seeking to make himself popular. Romney has yet to articulate a compelling rationale for secrecy, other than a misplaced desire for "privacy" in the midst of a presidential run. Republicans are not scoring points by stating the obvious: yes, Reid's allegation is unsubstantiated. But only one person can provide the necessary documentation: Romney. Republicans should be leaning on Romney to release the returns rather than focusing their ire on Reid."
OMG! You are SO right! Absolutely we need a Department of Useful Liars. Reid can be the first department chief of this fine new institution. Now that I think about it, how can the Founders have left that out of the Constitution? What were they thinking? It should have been our the fourth leg of our government: Executive, Legislative, Supreme Court and Honorable Liars. It all makes perfect sense.

Naturally, the fact that his lie has no backing makes the lie all that more important. Doesn't everyone see that? I mean, there's nothing I respect more than a HUGE lie being told by someone in a position of great power & authority such as Harry Reid. You can't tell me enough lies. The more important you are, the closer you are to the centers of power, the larger I expect those lies to be.

I not only EXPECT Harry Reid to lie, I DEMAND it! How dare he hold back this wonderful function from a willing public. Why, I bet you if the tells another whopper, some tiny-brained douche bag will be on Topix within days telling us the fine, fine, super-fine reasons that forced poor, helpless Harry to do this! All for our own good, of course.

The truth? We can't HANDLE the truth. Lies... that's what we need.

Thanks for your enlightening post.
bottlecap

Tampa, FL

#385 Aug 8, 2012
Ballybunion wrote:
Latest example of how low the democrat party can sink, the latest attack add states that because Bane allowed a company to go bankrupt in 2001 or 2002, and a man lost his job and health insurance his wife died. Sounds bad right?
Here's the facts:
Romney left Bane in 1999
Bane's investment in the company kept it alive for several years before it went bankrupt (man could have lost his job earlier without the help of Bane)
Company went bankrupt in 2001 or 2002, AFTER Romney left to work on the Olympics.
Man's wife STILL HAD A JOB AND HEALTH BENEFITS until she was laid off several years after that.
Woman DID get health care, went to hospital in 2006 for treatment where the cancer was discovered and she died. SEVEN YEARS AFTER ROMNEY LEFT BANE.
About 2 years after she was laid off from her job with benefits.
Yet this lying sack of shite, former Obama administration worker BTW, tries to connect the death of a woman, 7 years after the fact, with Romney. Lies, lies and more lies, that's all we can expect out of this administration and STILL the lemmings jump up, time after time, and defend this practice.
Yes! That is the way American citizens got stuck with the worst President in American history, Barack Obama---massive mis-information, AND backed-up by the CORPORATE FASCIST MSM.

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#386 Aug 8, 2012
Ballybunion wrote:
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Wow, an endorsement for a proven liar,
Proven liar?
Can you be specific?
Ballybunion wrote:
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you must be sooooo proud of your party, what's next?
Yes, I am proud!
...and what's next is another 4 years with Obama as your president!
Ballybunion wrote:
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He's already been accused of murder, falsely of course, but what the heck, a good lie is well received by the brain dead lemmings that occupy the democratic party nowadays.
Can you be specific?
You're not making sense.
Ballybunion wrote:
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Harry's comment is not only unsubstantiated, it's A BALD FACED LIE, something the democrat party is particularly good at.
You mean about not paying his taxes?
How would you know it is a bald faced lie?
Seriously...how do you know?
The only one that knows is Romney, and he's hiding it for some reason...eh?
Why wouldn't Romney just SHOW that he paid, and end this...then you'd KNOW if it is a lie or not.
Right now, you calling it a lIE is your OPINION, and it is moot.
Ballybunion wrote:
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And you condone it?
I only condone Romney showing his tax records, and proving if he is a liar or not....eh?
Why won't he just show it and prove that it's a lie?
What's he waiting for?
Ballybunion wrote:
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Wow, well, that says a lot about you then, doesn't it.
What does?
You make no sense
Ballybunion wrote:
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How about we say that we got an phone call from someone who knows you and they said that you killed a man and buried him in the woods. Now, YOU have the responsibility to dig up the woods, find no body to PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE.
LOL, if I could EASILY PULL PAPERS, and PROVE that I didn't kill someone...I WOULD DO IT!
No one is asking Romney to dig up the woods, or anything difficult.
They are asking him to show papers, which can easily PROVE if he is a liar or not...he chooses not to...why?
Mostly, you are comparing apples to oranges when trying to compare showing tax papers, to digging up the woods.
lol
YES, if he is running for the PRESIDENCY of our country, then he has the OBLIGATION to "prove his innocence"...and it will be a lot easier than digging a hole!
Ballybunion wrote:
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What a crock!
The only crock is YOU trying to compare showing tax papers, to murder and digging up the woods to prove my innocence with no body.
lol
Ballybunion wrote:
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And no dearie, it makes no difference that you are not running for president, you have been ACCUSED you must now prove your innocence.
No, it does make a difference if you're running for president!
AGAIN, comparing digging up the woods, to simply showing paper is ignorant!

Especially since we ALL have to pay taxes...which has NOTHING to do with murder!
ugh

“Imaginez tous les gens”

Since: Sep 09

Sunbury, OH

#387 Aug 8, 2012
nilly welson wrote:
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OMG! You are SO right! Absolutely we need a Department of Useful Liars. Reid can be the first department chief of this fine new institution. Now that I think about it, how can the Founders have left that out of the Constitution? What were they thinking? It should have been our the fourth leg of our government: Executive, Legislative, Supreme Court and Honorable Liars. It all makes perfect sense.
Naturally, the fact that his lie has no backing makes the lie all that more important. Doesn't everyone see that? I mean, there's nothing I respect more than a HUGE lie being told by someone in a position of great power & authority such as Harry Reid. You can't tell me enough lies. The more important you are, the closer you are to the centers of power, the larger I expect those lies to be.
I not only EXPECT Harry Reid to lie, I DEMAND it! How dare he hold back this wonderful function from a willing public. Why, I bet you if the tells another whopper, some tiny-brained douche bag will be on Topix within days telling us the fine, fine, super-fine reasons that forced poor, helpless Harry to do this! All for our own good, of course.
The truth? We can't HANDLE the truth. Lies... that's what we need.
Thanks for your enlightening post.
1. How do you know it's a lie?
Romney will not show us if it is a lie or not....why is that?
He holds the ONLY power to SHOW it is a lie...but he won't!
Could it be because it's true?

2. Reid's claim DOES HAVE BACKING!....it's called Romney's tax papers...which he refuses to show...why is that?

3. "doesn't everyone see that"...more importantly, I think everyone sees and WONDERS why Romney is hiding them!

4. Prove Harry Reid lied?

5. Truth hurts...eh?
TSM

El Paso, TX

#388 Aug 8, 2012
Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>Well we already know the trickle >down< theory based on REPUBLICAN ideas caused a RECESSION!
YET, since Obama took office:
Saved the economy, saved the auto industry, oil production at an 8 year high, jobless rate down, dow UP, stock market UP, pulled troops from Iraq, oh...and he got Bin Laden!
The only people whom say the numbers IMPROVING, and moving in the right direction is "a disaster" are REPUBLICANS!
lol
Sorry, but the PROOF is in the pudding:)
What planet are you On? Obama has been Historic, 41 weeks of unemployment over 8% longest period in American History, 15 trillion in Debt, 47 million Americans on Food Stamps, Historic 5.4 Million Sign Up For Disability, US debt tops 100% of GDP, GDP grows at 1.6 and Liberals/Democrat want’s the American People to sign up for Four more years of this!! The Obama’s train of destruction is still Rolling will stop it in November !!

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