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akpilot wrote: <quoted text> What is laughable is the fact that you don't even know what this debate is about yet you interject your nonsense into the conversation as if you are relevant. No one has claimed he isn't a citizen you idiot. If you read back a bit I think you'll find that people HAVE claimed that he isn't a citizen. Nonetheless, irrelevant though I may be, I will tell you that the precedent for a president being elected whose parents were not both U.S. citizens has already been set. I accept your apology for the name-calling.
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In fact the poll numbers show Romney's lead among people who are either moderately religious or very religious is a slim 33% to 30%. Obama leads Romney among people who are moderately by 14%.
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That 33% to 30% figure represents percentages out of the total of very religious, moderately and non-religious voters. If moderate and very religious are treated as a group, Romney's lead among this group is 48% to 44%.
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Only in America---top ten 1) Only in America could politicians talk about the greed of the rich at a $35,000 a plate campaign fund raising event. 2) Only in America could people claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when we have a black President, a black Attorney General, and roughly 18% of the federal workforce is black. 12% of the population is black. 3) Only in America could we have had the two people most responsible for our tax code, Timothy Geithner, the head of the Treasury Department and Charles Rangel who once ran the Ways and Means Committee, BOTH turn out to be tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes. 4) Only in America can we have terrorists kill people in the name of Allah and have the media primarily react by fretting that Muslims might be harmed by the backlash. 5) Only in America would we make people who want to legally become American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege while we discuss letting anyone who sneaks into the country illegally just become American citizens. 6) Only in America could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country's Constitution be thought of as "extremists." 7) Only in America could you need to present a driver's license to cash a check or buy alcohol, but not to vote. 8) Only in America could people demand the government investigate whether oil companies are gouging the public because the price of gas went up when the return on equity invested in a major U.S. oil company (Marathon Oil) is less than half of a company making tennis shoes (Nike). 9) Only in America could the government collect more tax dollars from the people than any nation in recorded history, still spend a trillion dollars more than it has per year for total spending of $7 million PER MINUTE, and complain that it doesn't have nearly enough money. 10) Only in America could the rich people who pay 86% of all income taxes be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all.
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote: Hmmmm, a poll posted by Fox News says that; Of the people who consider themselves to be very religious only 37% support Obama but 57% of them support Romney. But of the people who consider themselves to be NONE religious 61% support Obama where as only 30% support Romney. That leans credence to my opinion that most of Obama's supporters are Atheists, Anti-theists or Agnostics. Who would have guessed? wojar wrote: <quoted text> No. Actually the poll numbers show Rouge is pissing in the wind. The above supports the conclusion that Rouge has limited reasoning ability. Do the math. Very or moderate religious according to the poll Rouge inadequately cited comprise 60% of Obama's supporters. Simple math -- it ain't rocket science. Do ask me about the math, ask the poll taker. Oh, I deliberately did not put in the moderately religious, just to see what you would say. And, do you dis agree with "That leans credence to my opinion that most of Obama's supporters are Atheists, Anti-theists or Agnostics. Who would have guessed?"
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Learn to Read
Indianapolis, IN
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akpilot wrote: <quoted text> What is laughable is the fact that you don't even know what this debate is about yet you interject your nonsense into the conversation as if you are relevant. No one has claimed he isn't a citizen you idiot. OReaLY? Better check with the Goat Herder. He has claimed it over and over and over. Over course his claims are pathetic and erroneous, but that is common to all Birfoon fantasies.
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote: Rogue Scholar 05 wrote: Hmmmm, a poll posted by Fox News says that; Of the people who consider themselves to be very religious only 37% support Obama but 57% of them support Romney. But of the people who consider themselves to be NONE religious 61% support Obama where as only 30% support Romney. That leans credence to my opinion that most of Obama's supporters are Atheists, Anti-theists or Agnostics. Who would have guessed? <quoted text> Do ask me about the math, ask the poll taker. Oh, I deliberately did not put in the moderately religious, just to see what you would say. And, do you dis agree with "That leans credence to my opinion that most of Obama's supporters are Atheists, Anti-theists or Agnostics. Who would have guessed?" Huh? The poll YOU cite does not support YOUR opinion. In fact the poll supports a conclusion to the contrary. 60% of the respondents who supported Obama are either religious or moderately religious. This does NOT lend credence to Rouge's unsupported conclusion. Rouge's focus on only 41% of poll respondents proves he's missing a few cards from his deck. That's called jumping to conclusions, a skill Rouge has mastered. wojar wrote: <quoted text> No. Actually the poll numbers show Rouge is pissing in the wind. The above supports the conclusion that Rouge has limited reasoning ability. Do the math. Very or moderate religious according to the poll Rouge inadequately cited comprise 60% of Obama's supporters. Simple math -- it ain't rocket science.
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Oh, when I was out I saw an Hispanic friend and he repeated a kids joke I told him months ago which is, "Chili today, hot tamale". I lived in El Paso, TX when I was 10-12 years old and that was just a kids saying we used back then. Anyway, I told that to him months ago and he is still cracking up about it. It is just a kids joke. When we were in Germany my 13-15 y/o daughter would say "Guten Tag you frog" and I always hoped a German did not hear it and know what it meant.
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Joe
Orlando, FL
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Why doesn't Hawaii put his original birth cert. on display in a case so anyone who wants to can go look at it. It's not "top secret" any more since he's released a copy of it. So where is it? I don't think it exists. I think this is one they cobbed together on photoshop. Where is his immigration paperwork when he came back to the US from Indonesia? Why is his social security number from Connecticut a State he had never even been to? Was his real father actually the communist Frank Marshall Davis?
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Joe
Orlando, FL
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Majority Will wrote: Barack Obama was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Ann Dunham, a White American from Wichita, Kansas of English and Irish descent. Congress officially declares Obama next president By JIM ABRAMS – 30 minutes ago WASHINGTON (AP)— Congress has officially declared Barack Obama the next President of the United States after tallying electoral college votes in a centuries old tradition. The House and Senate met in joint session to hear their colleagues read off the electoral votes from the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The outcome, never in doubt, was 365 votes for Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden, and 173 votes for John McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin. Both Democrats and Republicans gave a standing ovation as Vice President Dick Cheney, in his role as president of the Senate, announced the vote count for Obama. THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below. WASHINGTON (AP)— The House and Senate are coming together in a centuries-old tradition to count the electoral votes from the November election and formally declare that Barack Obama will be the 44th president of the United States. Vice President Dick Cheney will take a seat next to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to preside over the joint session of Congress on Thursday. In what could be his last act as president of the Senate, Cheney was to hand the certificates from each state's electors to the tellers — two members each from the House and the Senate — to be read off and tallied. At the conclusion of the state-by-state rundown, Cheney was to read the tally sheet and announce the results — that Obama has been elected president and Joe Biden will succeed Cheney as vice president. The 12th Amendment, ratified in 1804, directs the electors chosen by the states to meet and vote for president and vice president, conveying the results to the president of the Senate. That was accomplished Dec. 15, when the electors, in a largely ceremonial rite preordained by Obama's Nov. 4 victory over John McCain, gathered in state capitals to cast their votes. The tally was 365 for Obama, 173 for McCain. The electoral college is made up of 538 electors, with each state getting its equivalent in the 435-member House and the 100-member Senate. The District of Columbia gets the other three electors. The session this year should be drama-free, unlike in 2001, when then-Vice President Al Gore presided over the session that declared George W. Bush the winner over Gore in a disputed election. Gore disallowed objections from fellow Democrats who asserted that Bush had unfairly won Florida and tried to block Florida's electoral votes from being counted. You have absolutely zero proof that he really was born in Hawaii. Zero. Even the birth certificate he released was proven to be made up. All you are doing is repeating lies you've been told. Hawaii won't allow anyone to see what they really have,.....why is that? He released it so what's the big secret? Why can't a bipartisan committee go to Hawaii and view and examine the original? Because it doesn't exist that's why.
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Since: Dec 11
Fort Worth, TX
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Joe wrote: <quoted text> You have absolutely zero proof that he really was born in Hawaii. Zero. Even the birth certificate he released was proven to be made up. All you are doing is repeating lies you've been told. Hawaii won't allow anyone to see what they really have,.....why is that? He released it so what's the big secret? Why can't a bipartisan committee go to Hawaii and view and examine the original? Because it doesn't exist that's why. And you have even less proof that he was born elsewhere.
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Terry Buckeye wrote: <quoted text> There is precedence for having a president whose parents were not both U.S. citizens. At the time the president was born? All the parent has to do is become a naturalized citizen and then have the child and their child is a Natural Born Citizen. Obama's father NEVER was a U.S. citizen.
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Terry Buckeye wrote: <quoted text> And you have even less proof that he was born elsewhere. Ye but, there is more than enough circumstantial evidence to warrant opening a criminal fraud investigation. And that is all we demand!
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Grand Birther
Louisville, KY
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TruthHere wrote: <quoted text>No, your side of the claims are that the entire government of the State of Hawaii is somehow involved in a conspiratorial plot or Obama is not a "Natural" citizen. Both these claims are laughable to the Majority of Americans. No one has ever said that the entire government of the State of Hawaii is involved in a conspiratorial plot, that is an entirely false claim made by only you. There are a few involved though. No one has ever said that Obama is not a "Natural" citizen, Dip-shit! We claim that the Founding Fathers would not have considered Obama to be a Natural born citizen, IDIOT! You can't even get your LIES straight. ** On a side-note to Topix, why did you cut this post, COWARDS?!
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Grand Birther
Louisville, KY
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Terry Buckeye wrote: <quoted text> There is precedence for having a president whose parents were not both U.S. citizens. What would that be?
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Old Goat
Wichita, KS
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wojar wrote: <quoted text> Indeed the US Constitution does not grant any special privileges to dual citizens. That's what recognition would provide for. However, recognition and prohibition are entirely different animals. Most people can understand this by age 14. Why can't you? <quoted text> not only does the Constitution not give special privileges to dual-citizenship, it does not even recognize it, as show below. Trumbull declaring: The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means. Now fool, call Mr. Trumbull a liar! This should cover your prior postings.
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Grand Birther
Louisville, KY
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Joe wrote: Why doesn't Hawaii put his original birth cert. on display in a case so anyone who wants to can go look at it. It's not "top secret" any more since he's released a copy of it. So where is it? I don't think it exists. I think this is one they cobbed together on photoshop. Where is his immigration paperwork when he came back to the US from Indonesia? Why is his social security number from Connecticut a State he had never even been to? Was his real father actually the communist Frank Marshall Davis? I'll tell you why. Because the birth certificate is FAKE and Obama is a FRAUD. I am still waiting for anyone to explain how a registrar's stamp can be moved on a computer created document if the file was created as a scan only. You can only do that if the registrar's stamp was put on the document by a computer. If a document that contained a registrar's stamp was only scanned into a computer, that stamp could not be moved.
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Grand Birther
Louisville, KY
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Terry Buckeye wrote: <quoted text> And you have even less proof that he was born elsewhere. Regardless, there is no proof that Obama was born in Hawaii.
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Frank
Spokane, WA
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Grand Birther wrote: <quoted text> No one has ever said that the entire government of the State of Hawaii is involved in a conspiratorial plot, that is an entirely false claim made by only you. There are a few involved though. No one has ever said that Obama is not a "Natural" citizen, Dip-shit! We claim that the Founding Fathers would not have considered Obama to be a Natural born citizen, IDIOT! You can't even get your LIES straight. ** On a side-note to Topix, why did you cut this post, COWARDS?! A natural birth is a term used for a baby born out of wedlock.
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Old Goat
Wichita, KS
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wojar wrote: <quoted text> Indeed the US Constitution does not grant any special privileges to dual citizens. That's what recognition would provide for. However, recognition and prohibition are entirely different animals. Most people can understand this by age 14. Why can't you? <quoted text> silly fool, you better look-up the legal use of, recognize.
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