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Feds: Biker gang plotted to kill, extort rivals

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National Pagans Motorcycle Club leaders and more than 50 members and associates of the outlaw biker gang are accused of plotting to kill and extort rivals to consolidate the club's power in the eastern U.S., according to an indictment unsealed Tuesday.

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gre

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Wow that is great!! Let them kill each other off!!! Less of them to worry about!!! They are a bunch of losers anyway!!!
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I don't know that you would want to say that to their faces.
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thomas paine wrote:
I don't know that you would want to say that to their faces.
I would love to see him say that to any patch holder, or prospect for that matter.
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Bill Smith wrote:
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I would love to see him say that to any patch holder, or prospect for that matter.
Anyone who has to join a gang to get any respect, doesn't deserve any. Patch Holder? You mean someone with the support of fellow Patch Holders? People who use woman for prostitution , beat them, rape them and pass them around amongst each other like a Hydroponic Bong. Then again anyone that chooses to get involved with these guy has it comming anyway. These people are as Legitt as the Crips and Blood.
something has to change

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yep, sound like Bangers to me!
this stone age mentality is not really surprising anymore, just sad!
wish they all just disappear at the same time.
Just the facts

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Amor de Rey wrote:
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Anyone who has to join a gang to get any respect, doesn't deserve any. Patch Holder? You mean someone with the support of fellow Patch Holders? People who use woman for prostitution , beat them, rape them and pass them around amongst each other like a Hydroponic Bong. Then again anyone that chooses to get involved with these guy has it comming anyway. These people are as Legitt as the Crips and Blood.
I agree . It's sad when your life Revolves around a Motorcycle . In fact all bikers are the same , I'm sorry I have to say that but its the truth . I know a guy that got a motorcycle then he got all kinds of tattoos and he started to wear all black . All he did was go on rides and hangout at a bar . He even called his baby girl " Harley " what a joke . From what I see it's just like most guys that drive a Corvette or a Harley , They really can't afford it . So it becomes the center of their Life and everything revolves around it . Then the think they should get respect ?
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Amor de Rey wrote:
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Anyone who has to join a gang to get any respect, doesn't deserve any. Patch Holder? You mean someone with the support of fellow Patch Holders? People who use woman for prostitution , beat them, rape them and pass them around amongst each other like a Hydroponic Bong. Then again anyone that chooses to get involved with these guy has it comming anyway. These people are as Legitt as the Crips and Blood.
I see you have been watching the fiction show "Gangland" on the history channel too much, or is it "Sons of Anarchy"?

What is you opinion on the blue gang? I bet you support them, the largest crime ridden gang in the world.
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Just the facts wrote:
<quoted text> I agree . It's sad when your life Revolves around a Motorcycle . In fact all bikers are the same , I'm sorry I have to say that but its the truth . I know a guy that got a motorcycle then he got all kinds of tattoos and he started to wear all black . All he did was go on rides and hangout at a bar . He even called his baby girl " Harley " what a joke . From what I see it's just like most guys that drive a Corvette or a Harley , They really can't afford it . So it becomes the center of their Life and everything revolves around it . Then the think they should get respect ?
Someone else who is clueless and watches too much TV.
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Bill Smith wrote:
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Someone else who is clueless and watches too much TV.
Well Bill if I had to guess I would say you have a Harley and your life revolves around that bike.

And if I had to guess I would say you don't have a pot to piss in Or a window to throw it out !
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Not all Bikers are low-life .
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Just the facts wrote:
<quoted text> Well Bill if I had to guess I would say you have a Harley and your life revolves around that bike.
And if I had to guess I would say you don't have a pot to piss in Or a window to throw it out !
You show your low intelligence by your lack of any facts and by using fallacies to try and prove your point. Your description of a biker is fictional.
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Bill Smith wrote:
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You show your low intelligence by your lack of any facts and by using fallacies to try and prove your point. Your description of a biker is fictional.
OOOOOO Billy I must have hit a nerve !

It's not my imagination running away or M i mistaken or giving false deceptions of Bikers . I'm just giving you Just the facts .

And the facts are that most Bikers in clubs don't have anything going for them but the Club and their Bike .

Sorry if it hurts Billy but I'm just giving you the facts Not Fallacies and Fictional statements .
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<quoted text> OOOOOO Billy I must have hit a nerve !
It's not my imagination running away or M i mistaken or giving false deceptions of Bikers . I'm just giving you Just the facts .
And the facts are that most Bikers in clubs don't have anything going for them but the Club and their Bike .
Sorry if it hurts Billy but I'm just giving you the facts Not Fallacies and Fictional statements .
You cannot make me upset. You have not offered any facts, only your opinion which comes from fiction shows on television.
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Bill Smith wrote:
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You cannot make me upset. You have not offered any facts, only your opinion which comes from fiction shows on television.
Bill you seem to continue to confuse yourself. There are lots of decent Bikers, Christian Bikers, White Collar weekend Bikers, having a Harley does not make you a criminal, you are missing the point of what these people were indited for. These are the ones from "gangland" not your Lebanon Valley MC. But if you are that comfortable with passing your Ol'lady around like a Blunt...more power to you. It's natural selection at work.
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Amor de Rey wrote:
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Bill you seem to continue to confuse yourself. There are lots of decent Bikers, Christian Bikers, White Collar weekend Bikers, having a Harley does not make you a criminal, you are missing the point of what these people were indited for. These are the ones from "gangland" not your Lebanon Valley MC. But if you are that comfortable with passing your Ol'lady around like a Blunt...more power to you. It's natural selection at work.
I'm not confused at all. I'm friends with bikers from all walks of life. I also know from personal experience that the show "Gangland" resembles the show "Sons of Anarchy" more than reality.

And I see you had to end your statement with a fallacy. Why is that?
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Just the facts wrote:
<quoted text> OOOOOO Billy I must have hit a nerve !
It's not my imagination running away or M i mistaken or giving false deceptions of Bikers . I'm just giving you Just the facts .
And the facts are that most Bikers in clubs don't have anything going for them but the Club and their Bike .
Sorry if it hurts Billy but I'm just giving you the facts Not Fallacies and Fictional statements .
"Most" bikers aren't in "clubs". Check your stats, bike enthusiasts are some of the wealthiest citizens in the US. Harley's ain't cheap. Gear ain't cheap. "The Lifestyle" ain't cheap.

Quit watching SoA, or at least acknowledge it's "fiction".

Damn cagers.
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JustTheTRUEFacts wrote:
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"Most" bikers aren't in "clubs". Check your stats, bike enthusiasts are some of the wealthiest citizens in the US. Harley's ain't cheap. Gear ain't cheap. "The Lifestyle" ain't cheap.
Quit watching SoA, or at least acknowledge it's "fiction".
Damn cagers.
Why do you use a contraction for aint ???? it aint a word!
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not about people who ride bikes. That is not a crime. This is about people who are criminals that use bikes as a symbol and have incorporated that image into their lifestyle. At the end of the day, the law is only interested in those who commit crime. If they happen to ride motorcycles, who cares, the cuffs go on either way. Click.
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the club president of the the " biker club" lives 5 miles from camp david
the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATE camp david
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I think that the story here has created a misunderstanding. Pagans are a group of organized criminals, sure they ride bikes and may be "bikers" but we are not talking about the people we see riding around town (usually). And I am sure that those types of clubs count for very few of the riders out there- you know, 1%ers.
I am a biker in that I ride a Harley. I am also a father, a husband, a Christian, a firefighter, a soccer coach, a member of the citizens corps, a homeowner, and working 2 jobs. Lets not get the word biker mixed up- riding is awesome, you should all try it sometime.
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