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Members of NARAL Pro-Choice America protest with Etch A Sketches outside a hotel in Washington where Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney was holding a political fundraiser March 22, 2012.

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Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#762 May 29, 2012
hwyangel wrote:
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I would gladly take my child to witness a birth, would you take yours to witness an abortion?
Non sequitur, much?

Since: Nov 11

Gastonia, NC

#763 May 29, 2012
hwyangel wrote:
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I would gladly take my child to witness a birth, would you take yours to witness an abortion?
Oh look, you're trying to change the subject because it is getting a little uncomfortable to defend your beliefs.
hwyangel

United States

#764 May 30, 2012
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>There are quite a few other countries that take care of their hungry, sick, disabled, poor and disadvantaged better than the United States. That being said, we have the ability to be as great as you think we are. I hope future generations get it right.
"US ranked most charitable country on earth"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/...

Second and third are Ireland and Australia. Both redominantly Christian countries.

hwyangel

United States

#765 May 30, 2012
Babylon_Drifter wrote:
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Oh look, you're trying to change the subject because it is getting a little uncomfortable to defend your beliefs.
Not at all. I believe that birth is a good thing. It is something that I would gladly allow my kids to witness. I do not believe that abortion is a good thing and something that I would prevent my kids from witnessing.
Would you not teach your kids about what is good and right in the world? Would you not recommend to your friends and family the good things in life?

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#766 May 30, 2012
hwyangel wrote:
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"US ranked most charitable country on earth"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/...
Second and third are Ireland and Australia. Both redominantly Christian countries.
I thought you were talking about the governments that are most effective in providing proper
services to their people. Unfortunately, charity can't provide services for most of the needy andspecial needs population in our country. It's not enough, to be frank. I know a lot about the subject, since work with the very people of whom we speak.
hwyangel

United States

#767 May 30, 2012
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>I thought you were talking about the governments that are most effective in providing proper
services to their people. Unfortunately, charity can't provide services for most of the needy andspecial needs population in our country. It's not enough, to be frank. I know a lot about the subject, since work with the very people of whom we speak.
The third largest charity institution (third after government paid education and health care ) are from the religious sect. 90% is the tax deductible tithes by the 20% of christains who attend church.
These services are not discriminatory and include but not limited to : food and clothing pantries, homeless shelters, college scholarships, job training and placement, half way houses, counciling and rehabilitation programs, utilities, transportation, nursing homes, pregnant teen shelters , after school programs and camps, day care, baby care supplies, christmas, disaster relief, orphanages, automotive repair, home care for the elderly and disabled, food and coat drives, hospice centers, prescriptions, glasses, clinics, crisis intervention, adoption, conflict resolution, illiteracy, parenting classes and support, recovery services to women and children survivors of domestic violence, sexual exploitation, and human trafficking, homeschooling support, to name a few. I left out the over seas ministries.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#768 May 30, 2012
hwyangel wrote:
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The third largest charity institution (third after government paid education and health care ) are from the religious sect. 90% is the tax deductible tithes by the 20% of christains who attend church.
These services are not discriminatory and include but not limited to : food and clothing pantries, homeless shelters, college scholarships, job training and placement, half way houses, counciling and rehabilitation programs, utilities, transportation, nursing homes, pregnant teen shelters , after school programs and camps, day care, baby care supplies, christmas, disaster relief, orphanages, automotive repair, home care for the elderly and disabled, food and coat drives, hospice centers, prescriptions, glasses, clinics, crisis intervention, adoption, conflict resolution, illiteracy, parenting classes and support, recovery services to women and children survivors of domestic violence, sexual exploitation, and human trafficking, homeschooling support, to name a few. I left out the over seas ministries.
I think charity is important and almost everyone I know, whether religious or secular, contributes to charity in one way or another. Charitable organizations are an invaluable asset to any society and no one is disrespecting them or diminishing their importance. The fact is that charity isn't enough, monetarily. 50% of families in the USA receive some sort of assistance, at present. Moreover, charitable organizations often cannot provide the kind of specialized services that many of the people who have a myriad of problems need. These clients are also often non-compliant. Charity is fantastic but it simply can't do it all. As I wrote, this is something I have professional experience in.
serfs up

Kissimmee, FL

#769 May 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Ok, if you do not wish to back up your statement fine by me. It seems you would point to something specific?
I am concerned about freedom also, the conservatives wish to have government/religion control the reproductive lives of women. They would prefer that these two entities have the say over a womans medical condition with zero regard for her best interests.
Morgana, I have backed up statements. it is just to what perception is. I am not going to roll our encyclopedia statements. You can find that done by others. One and a half million abortions a year and over fifty million in the last few decades is a problem. It is not based on mistakes, but based on pleasure and irresponsible decisions. When you have leaders and many females saying sex is "natural" and it is. But giving young girls who are not women but entering puberty a "free ride" to sex is insane and stupid. Adding the the onus of getting "paid" by someone else who pays taxes to rear children by this eventually brings destruction to any civilized culture. The basic battle is the self respect of saying no and having a bit of self control in those early years, which should have been taught to them from someone, and the state which began to pay for not being responsible at all. So we end up with over fifty million abortions and fifty million illigitimate kids with a divorce rate that approached fifty per cent and a nation struggling to keep civility. Sort of a 50/50/50 club. And the real taxes are over 50%. And that is a conservative number.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#770 May 30, 2012
californio wrote:
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is.
Albert Camus
I would rather live my life minus a misogynistic god who deems his female creation as HIS private transportation system while espousing free will in HIS usual contradictory manner.

I would rather live my life free of a god who recreated HIMSELF as HIS SON who could only arrive through a virgin vagina on a suicide mission to save us all from HIMSELF.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#771 May 30, 2012
hwyangel wrote:
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I already said. Gods word is the ultimate authority. If you want to know what God says all you have to do is read it.
I have read the bible and the quran and I firmly believe that anyone that believes this nonsense and cannot recognize it as books written by MEN and inspired by the ambitions of the same are mentally challenged. The fact that misogyny and bigotry exists can be traced directly to these books.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#772 May 30, 2012
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Morgana, I have backed up statements. it is just to what perception is. I am not going to roll our encyclopedia statements. You can find that done by others. One and a half million abortions a year and over fifty million in the last few decades is a problem. It is not based on mistakes, but based on pleasure and irresponsible decisions. When you have leaders and many females saying sex is "natural" and it is. But giving young girls who are not women but entering puberty a "free ride" to sex is insane and stupid. Adding the the onus of getting "paid" by someone else who pays taxes to rear children by this eventually brings destruction to any civilized culture. The basic battle is the self respect of saying no and having a bit of self control in those early years, which should have been taught to them from someone, and the state which began to pay for not being responsible at all. So we end up with over fifty million abortions and fifty million illigitimate kids with a divorce rate that approached fifty per cent and a nation struggling to keep civility. Sort of a 50/50/50 club. And the real taxes are over 50%. And that is a conservative number.
When has a woman/girl who had an abortion ever intruded on your life, how has it effected it?
serfs up

Kissimmee, FL

#773 May 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
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When has a woman/girl who had an abortion ever intruded on your life, how has it effected it?
The abortion issue is the result of the promiscuity enabled by a government willing to pay for it. Lots of safety nets. Lots of them. the intrusion is tax after tax after tax. In everything we do.
Billy Ringo

Wilmington, DE

#774 May 30, 2012
californio wrote:
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Founder of Seal team six Richard Marcinko Now CONSERVATIVE talk show host.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Marcinko
Howard Wasdim Auther (And former member) of Seal Team Six Republican.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/8611...
former Commander of seal Team six and now REPUBLICAN State Senator Ryan Zinke
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/8611...
Funny how its seam all members of Seal Team six are Republicans.
So what? What's your point? Obama is their boss.
Ocean56

AOL

#775 May 30, 2012
hwyangel wrote:
Everyone has, at least for now, the choice to conceive or not. Pregnancy is a result of that choice.
Oh geez, not this idiocy again. Consent to sex is NOT consent to pregnancy, birth, and/or motherhood. While men and women may want to have sex, not all men and women WANT to procreate.

Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, even if pregnancy results from birth control failure or ANY other reason. It isn't your decision to make unless you are the woman who is pregnant. Meaning, women can abort a pregnancy without YOUR permission or approval. Get over it.
Ocean56

AOL

#776 May 30, 2012
hwyangel wrote:
I would gladly take my child to witness a birth, would you take yours to witness an abortion?
I wouldn't have taken my child to see EITHER one. Abortion is a medical procedure and so is a birth, both rather messy and unpleasant to watch.

Why would I do that to my child, or ANY child, for that matter. There's NO good reason to do so.
Ocean56

AOL

#777 May 30, 2012
hwyangel wrote:
Not at all. I believe that birth is a good thing. It is something that I would gladly allow my kids to witness.
WOW. Glad I never had a religious extremist like YOU for a parent then. I never took my child when he was young to witness EITHER type of procedure, as they are medical procedures, which can be very unpleasant for the patient.

Just because YOU believe "birth is a good thing" doesn't mean it is fit for young children to see.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#778 May 30, 2012
elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>Ol' Al sounds like a scared little man.
Guess you dont know who Albert Camus is. to bad you should look him up. And Lao Tse and Descartes while you are at it.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#779 May 30, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
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WOW. Glad I never had a religious extremist like YOU for a parent then. I never took my child when he was young to witness EITHER type of procedure, as they are medical procedures, which can be very unpleasant for the patient.
Just because YOU believe "birth is a good thing" doesn't mean it is fit for young children to see.
There nothing wrong with a child watching a live birth. In many part of the world its normal for young girls to do so and in rural areas kids get to watch the birth of animals al the time.. My wife got to help in the birth of her youngest brother at age 6.
Billy Ringo

United States

#780 May 30, 2012
Willard in 2002: "I will preserve and protect a womanís right to choose."

TODAY: Opposes

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#781 May 30, 2012
Billy Ringo wrote:
Willard in 2002: "I will preserve and protect a womanís right to choose."
TODAY: Opposes
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
And in 2013 I am willing to bet he is going to pretend the subject does not exist. Which is one of the reason he was on the very bottom of my list of people I wanted for president, barely above obama.
The truth is Romney is not going to do a dam thing one way or the other concerning Abortion. He might every now and then mumble something pro life every now and then but any conservative judge he appoints is going to be as pro Life as Souter(Anyone remember how ape the Feminist went when Bush senior nominated him?)
Romney is the most moderate candidate the Republicans have nominated since Eisenhower but that wont stop the left as trying to paint him as a far right winger.

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