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Aug 19, 2008

UAW criticizes McCain for opposing loans to automotive industry

UAW President Ron Gettelfinger criticized Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Monday for opposing government loans for Detroit automakers, saying McCain "has slammed the door on any real support for the domestic auto industry."

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Federalist Papers

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Perhaps if the Union had heeded the call 10 years ago about how their wages and benefits were bankrupting the industry they would not be in this mess.

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If the unions are for it, it CAN'T be good.
Never has been, never will be.
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The uaw is supporting Obama so of course they are going to cry when McCain says he doesn't think a bale out is necessary at this point. The US automakers have brought this upon themselves by allowing the UAW and others to craft these sweetheart labor agreements. Screw them!!!!!!!!!

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Aug 19, 2008
 
the three stooges strike again - sure you McCainiacs aren't hunting in packs now :-)My gawd I think they formed a union!
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wyojake wrote:
the three stooges strike again - sure you McCainiacs aren't hunting in packs now :-)My gawd I think they formed a union!
If we formed a Union then only one of us could type, while the others sat around and did nothing for a couple of hours. Even after that their would be typos all over the place because we would be a lazy union worker. LOL

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Aug 19, 2008
 
No Bail Outs for the Union leaches.

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Aug 19, 2008
 
wyojake wrote:
the three stooges strike again - sure you McCainiacs aren't hunting in packs now :-)My gawd I think they formed a union!
Are you for bailing out the auto industry?

Giving away billions to the big 3 automakers as Obama suggests?

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Federalist Papers wrote:
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If we formed a Union then only one of us could type, while the others sat around and did nothing for a couple of hours. Even after that their would be typos all over the place because we would be a lazy union worker. LOL
Should probably examine where most of the labor laws and benefits in this country came from. But I guess you like 5 year olds working in coal mines for a nickel a day till they are crippled and then dumped. Puhlease.

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The laughing liberal wrote:
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Are you for bailing out the auto industry?
Giving away billions to the big 3 automakers as Obama suggests?
I am not for bailing out any industry. Would they like a loan like Chrysler and pay it back? Think you were the arguing that industry had to be supported for the security of the economy. I was the one who maintained the position that incompetence should fail not be rewarded, susidized, or elected.

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Federalist Papers wrote:
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If we formed a Union then only one of us could type, while the others sat around and did nothing for a couple of hours. Even after that their would be typos all over the place because we would be a lazy union worker. LOL
We don't have a work ethic problem out west :-) Sounds like more of a discipline problem than a union one. Maybe?

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To show you just how ignorant the UAW is. When the market is at its worst in recorded history the UAW goes out on strike against Peterbuilt over > get this < ****MORE MONEY****.

Go figure.

Tell the UAW where to go buy a used car.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
Thread about the real John McCain, as told by a fellow POW and Annapolis classmate::

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sen...
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Federalist Papers wrote:
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If we formed a Union then only one of us could type, while the others sat around and did nothing for a couple of hours. Even after that their would be typos all over the place because we would be a lazy union worker. LOL
THERE (not "their") were typos in your post. And you would be THREE lazy union workers, not A lazy union worker. Perhaps you should hire someone from the National Writers Union for future posts.
http://www.nwu.org/nwu/
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Aug 20, 2008
 
Why pour water down a rat hole. The unions and the management of GM, Ford an Chrysler teamed up to put the companies in the spot they are now. They can just damn well team up to get them out. Keep your damn hands out of our pockets!

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Aug 21, 2008
 
A Modern Parable.

A Japanese company (Toyota) and an American company (Ford Motors) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.

On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.

The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.

Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.

Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.

They advised, of course , that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager.

They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower.. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles.

Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced t o India .

Sadly, The End.

Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US , claiming they can't make money paying American wages.

TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US . The last quarter's results:

TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.

Ford folks are still scratching their heads.

IF THIS WEREN'T SO TRUE IT MIGHT BE FUNNY.
Federalist Papers

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Tex wrote:
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THERE (not "their") were typos in your post. And you would be THREE lazy union workers, not A lazy union worker. Perhaps you should hire someone from the National Writers Union for future posts.
http://www.nwu.org/nwu/
I am sure the National Writers Union is overpaid also.LOL
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Aug 24, 2008
 
Who gives a shit about the unions anymore?

Your day is done, and your support is gone! No more free rides for the under performers.
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