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53 Illegal Immigrants Held For Ransom in Phoenix Home Rescued

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Christopher wrote:
This is NOT funny in the slightest. This is the EXACT reason why I am for make our immigration laws more lax, to the point where anyone without a severe criminal record (even then if they have a good explanation), terrorist connections, or raised in a terrorist country are allowed to come to the United States legally.
My mother tried today to tell me "We cannot support the whole world!" If they are WORKING in this country for MINIMUM WAGES (and if we upped the minimum wage!) we would NOT be supporting them.
You need to listen to your mother. You must be incredibly young....or naive....or both
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<quoted text>From their families back in Mexico. These smugglers usually get half of their fees before they bring them in then the other half after they reach the "safe-house"But as with all illegal contracts-fees and conditions may change at any time. More money can be demanded,and the families have no recourse other than to pay. Who are they going to call for help? What do you call a coyote with a bad reputation? Do you think the coyotes care about word of mouth? No they are in it for the money and they call the shots.
sounds very much like drug dealers. When you break the law, you pay the consequences.
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Man that's just an awful story. No matter your take on immigration, whether you're for or against, the fact that these people have been taken hostage is just awful. Care more about getting these people out, then how they affect America's bottom line. Immigration is one of many problems its not our only one.
I don't think it's so awful. I think they got what they deserved for trying to break the law.Remeber: Everything that is done in the dark: Will eventually come to light.
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Oh, they just want to do jobs other people won't do!
Yeah get pait $4 a hr and have 53 people in 1 house! You think I could get away with 53 people in my house?
Hell no! They would take my kids away!
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I am wondering from whom these people demanded ransom?
Relatives of the illegals.

Normally the illegal travels with a phone# of his sponsor ( relative). Once at safe-house Coyote calls relative to begin price negotiations.
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U really think so? Well, I am black. I was visiting a friend in the hospital in Jackson heights, Queens, and walked past the medicaid office. All those Senoritas with 5 and six little bambinos were there. The entire place was Spanish. They turned down a man because he gets approximately $780 a month from some outside source, but every one of those mamacitas walked out of there with medical insurance for their children. At least black people (most of us) can read and write English.
Agree !

The Fed gov't guarantees medical insurance in the form of taxpayers money to pay the hospital bill.
Emergency medical service cannot be refused. Simple things such as headache , runny nose ,flu,rashes , bumps and any childhood illnesses.

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Just Crazy Me wrote:
Illegals are not freeloaders.
Your Economy is not suffering do to illegals, but do to blacks, living of the government and draining the system.
What dream world do you live in? They live off their anchors' entitlements from coffers that the taxpayers are funding. The very coffers of which most illegals have never deposited a a penny. We pay for their schooling, their hospital stays when they give birth to their far too many anchors and their unnecessary ER forays...we pay through the nose, while they become more dependant on us. I almost forgot, most illegals' children eat free breakfast and lunch at school because of they have anchors who have case numbers that enable all the children in the family to eat free.. Those meals aren't totally free, because the taxpayer is paying for them as well. More illegals are working the system each day. You obviously can't accept the truth.
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WOW! I guess we should feel sorry for those trying to break the law and ruin life as we know it in America. If they had kept their a*8es in Me Hi Co where they belonged, this wouldn't have happened. I find it funny that people support these lawbreakers. And would you be so willing to aid a lawbreaker if it was a bunch of crack dealers who were held hostage?
sean i have lived on the border- you have no clue-most are taking risk of life to come here as there is nothing where they were.
my family started here with a name on plymoth rock. most people here wether they want to admit it or not are immagrants . do you know how mexico treats people coming into mexico-simple they don't return them to their country they just shoot them-rape them first if they are young and pretty. most of the people i know from mexico are no better and no worse than last wave of people coming here from italy and europe. they just want a better life for their kids. i don't believe the welfare crap either-they work

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WOW! I guess we should feel sorry for those trying to break the law and ruin life as we know it in America. If they had kept their a*8es in Me Hi Co where they belonged, this wouldn't have happened. I find it funny that people support these lawbreakers. And would you be so willing to aid a lawbreaker if it was a bunch of crack dealers who were held hostage?
sean i have lived on the border- you have no clue-most are taking risk of life to come here as there is nothing where they were.
my family started here with a name on plymoth rock. most people here wether they want to admit it or not are immagrants . do you know how mexico treats people coming into mexico-simple they don't return them to their country they just shoot them-rape them first if they are young and pretty. most of the people i know from mexico are no better and no worse than last wave of people coming here from italy and europe. they just want a better life for their kids. i don't believe the welfare crap either-they work
I hate to break it to you, but they are working the system. At my school, almost every child of illegals, has free meals approved because they have a foodstamp number or a case number on the application because the parents signed up for the entitlements as soon at their kids are born in this country. They all know about WIC. You are blinded by your refusal to see things as they really are. I happen to know of many unmarried illegal mothers who don't work, have at least 4 children and live off their kids' perks.

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Just doing the Jobs that Americans wont. You know Kidnapping imprisonment be some other crimes occurred to.
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We don't give a rat's ass about the illegal mexicans.

No other country in the world permits scum like this sneak in. They are shot on the spot - good riddance.

The U.S. is no longer the melting pot, it is a sewer pot comprised of low life illegal mexicans who rape your little girls and boys before they slash their throats.

The Honorable Doctor Michael Savage spells it out for 20 million daily radio listeners in the country, and just as many internalionally. Go to:

www.michaelsavage.com

Or read one his many internalional-best selling books.

The Man can't be wrong, when he is sooo RIGHT !!!
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Illegals are not freeloaders.
Your Economy is not suffering do to illegals, but do to blacks, living of the government and draining the system.
First, it's "due to" not "do to" language is part of culture so please do not ruin it. Though there are some punctuation mistakes, I understand what you are trying to say, so now I am going to give you my opinion&#65306;

We cannot say that economy is being ruined by a specific race unless there is a large number of population in the race is doing so. Well, among all the illegal immigrants, most of them are Mexican, and I am not racism but that is just the fact. And since this part of the illegal immigrants, which I indicate Mexicans, they are hard-workers indeed, but one thing they may not realize is that what they are doing in the US(having a bunch of babies)is what is ruining our economy. And I can't blame Mexicans for this because it is our people who want to hire them! A lot of us are myopia; if they are not myopia, then they indeed are selfish. They don't, or they do but don't care because of the benefits they can get out of it, that they hire Mexicans for one dollar lower than normal white, but what we as citizens have to pay ten dollars more taxes for the kids of those employees. How pathetic are we!
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As a resident of phoenix i can tell you phoenix is transforming into mexico, in the early 90s my neighborhood was almost entirely white americans now its 99% mexican and none of them speak english all the white people moved to surrounding cities like mesa. Every student in my local school district gets a free lunch, theres alot of run down little shops that sell all kinds of mexican junk, the mexicans break glass bottles in the roads, spray paint every object, the mexicans play music full blast all day and all night, they all paint there houses strange colors like lime green.
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I have an idea for a new gameshow!Every illegal caught in the u.s.a. would be taken back to the border and presented on national t.v. they would give the height and weight of each illegal so that people could place their bets. The poncho would then be loaded into a catapult like the ones farmers use to throw pumpkins. Any legal citizen could claim their prize by guessing how far poncho would fly over the border!!The money made by the show would help offset the illegals transportation costs to the show!

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I have an idea for a new gameshow!Every illegal caught in the u.s.a. would be taken back to the border and presented on national t.v. they would give the height and weight of each illegal so that people could place their bets. The poncho would then be loaded into a catapult like the ones farmers use to throw pumpkins. Any legal citizen could claim their prize by guessing how far poncho would fly over the border!!The money made by the show would help offset the illegals transportation costs to the show!
An edition of Running Man??? LOL

And, unfortunately, WE would still be footing the bill with the money placed from our bets. Interesting sounding idea, tho.

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Illegals are not freeloaders.
Your Economy is not suffering do to illegals, but do to blacks, living of the government and draining the system.
Your name says it ....You are "Just Crazy" alright!!
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WOW! I guess we should feel sorry for those trying to break the law and ruin life as we know it in America. If they had kept their a*8es in Me Hi Co where they belonged, this wouldn't have happened. I find it funny that people support these lawbreakers. And would you be so willing to aid a lawbreaker if it was a bunch of crack dealers who were held hostage

ONE THING ALL OF YOU WONDERFUL FOLKS are over looking -a vast area of the united states was taken from mexico by force-as was a vast if not all of america was wrestled by force from the native americans -you immagrants ought to get the hell out.

i wish all of the crack and meth dealers were being held hostage.
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Illegals are not freeloaders.
Your Economy is not suffering do to illegals, but do to blacks, living of the government and draining the system.
The economy is suffering because of illegals. They increase the labor supply and by the law of supply and demand, wages for all working people drop.

Since Clinton eliminated welfare except for corporations, I doubt many are draining the system. The real culprits draining the system are corporate welfare takers who do nothing for the economy but steal our money and give it to CEOs.
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This is NOT funny in the slightest. This is the EXACT reason why I am for make our immigration laws more lax, to the point where anyone without a severe criminal record (even then if they have a good explanation), terrorist connections, or raised in a terrorist country are allowed to come to the United States legally.
My mother tried today to tell me "We cannot support the whole world!" If they are WORKING in this country for MINIMUM WAGES (and if we upped the minimum wage!) we would NOT be supporting them.
You do know they are already allowed into the country legally...they simply choose to do it ILLEGALLY.

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Illegals are not freeloaders.
Your Economy is not suffering do to illegals, but do to blacks, living of the government and draining the system.
Oh please, why do we always end up bashing the blacks. Are there blacks on welfare yes, but they aren't the only ones. Lupe and Juan can cross the border and bring all twelve of their children and she can be pregnant with another one and we all have to pay for it. Blacks had nothing to do with this story. Personally I don't care for any person black, white, asian, or hispanic etc. that sits around and waits on handouts.
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