Feds to collect DNA from every person they arrest

Okie wrote:

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If TX don't allow it take up trip across the border to Oklahoma and strap the helmet on back. Sometimes I have to count my blessings, no helmet law here. We got lots of Indian casinos too if you like to gamble. But for god's sake don't do anything illegal here, we throw way too many people in jail. We seem to be really good at that.

I dont think Oklahoma puts too many people in jail, probably not enough. I have seen burglary, fraud and hit and runs completely ignored, make a report and the Okc police do nothing, okc had better get prepared for vigilantes if they continue to ignore crimes

given how lazy the cops have become, dna might be the only way to protect our comunities

Not Grant wrote:

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if you are a criminal, i support that

An excellent example of I never cared much for pot. Neither did my friend. But when she was in the battle of her life fighting cancer (which she eventually lost) pot gave her a little relief from the treatments and gave her a little appetite.
She was arrested for possession (although the charges were later dropped) and she had to swear to not use it again or face incarceration.
But she was on a steady dosage of morphine..which did nothing for her nausea or loss of appetite.
Makes a lot of sense...

U_S_ Army_NCO wrote:

If you have nothing to hide, you don't have to worry about it. To all the "government can plant anything" Yes, the police are just waiting to plant evidence to put you in jail, your just that important to the government. Every Service member already has DNA in the database and I have yet to see one case of anyone getting framed. Grow up.

Well yes, every service member is, by definition, somewhat more likely to be blown up than the average person. Also someone who, by definition, doesn't mind the idea of killing people too. At least, not unless they are laughably naive and think the military has some other purpose.

So perhaps there's an argument for service personnel being logged on a database that is, it must be admitted, open to anyone with sufficient computer skills. Or simple human error as often happens.

The fact is there is no need to take DNA from every person arrested. Nothing. You might mount an argument that every person convicted of a violent crime has shown a willingness to hurt people - just like anyone who signs up to the military has shown a willingness to hurt people - but not the average joe. And thank all that's holy that my country, if apparently no longer yours, is still absolutely opposed to the State tracking and monitoring citizens.

And since we have less violent crime I see no possible reason to abandon that fundamental principle of being free from State interference for the path of madness thanks.

They should also include vasectomy on rapist whom rape children under 17 and under.

P On U wrote:

U.S laws sucks big time!!..

"Law No More" Island of Dr. Moroe.

Marie wrote:

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Yes, excellent idea. America will become much more secure with 24/7 surveillance. Only criminals will need to fear the government tracking their every move! RFD chips implanted in every child at birth will aid tracking of people--what a safe new world we have to look forward to!

and we can see the lack of activity going on in your bedroom that would lead to such a depraved idea.

Bad BOys Bad boy watcha going to do when they come for you lol ! i think that should collect dna from everyone so that we dont have to wrongfully send someone to jail

I'll give you some DNA, Right here.

I WATCH FOX NEWS wrote:

NOT ENOUGH!!!
I THINK EVERY PERSON SHOULD BE THUMB RETINAL AND DNA SCAN.
CAMERAS SHOULD INHABIT ANY PLACE THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING, OBVIOUSLY IN PUBLIC. BUT ALSO IN PEOPLES HOMES, THESE CAMERAS SHOULD BE FED TO HUB WHERE PEOPLE MONITOR THE FEEDS AND SEND LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN APPLICABLE.
NOW MY ONLY QUESTION PEOPLE IS IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE MEASURES
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING.
BRAVO FEDS
BUT NOT ENOUGH!!

Would you like to have a camera record you taking a dump in the toilet?

why take someone's dna when they get arrested i feel as if the feds are invading privacy. the only way they should take someone's dna is if that person is convicted an even then i only see it if that person is a convicted rapist or child molester i can't see it anywhere else so why take dna from someone when u just arrested them

DNA analysis for the purpose of identification is a tool; neutral as fingerprints, retina scans, etc. Law forbids the use of DNA to deny medical care or employment. Such discrimination based on what inherited vulnerabilities to disease one individual may have is ludicrous anyway, since every single human being on Earth has plenty of them, and whether or not, how severely or when they might be expressed is unknown for most of them. Irrelevant.

The paranoia out there about collecting DNA databases seems silly to me for the simple reason that there are two sides to what DNA can do for an individual accused of a crime. Are you forgetting that DNA can exonerate the falsely accused?

Criminals hurt people. So do false convictions. DNA is nothing but a generally useful tool that can help protect people from criminals and from some injustices. This hysteria is nonsense.

Actually, DNA evidence can also be used to establish INNOCENCE.For my part, I would not like to be convicted of a crime which I did not commit, and if they had my DNA, I could be ruled out as a suspect.Anyway, they've already got my prints and mugshot, so goody gumdrops.

Mr Europe wrote:

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I have seen alot of uneducated people post in the forums , and here is one trying to be funny. Bet the rednecks are laughing . You should try being a standup comedian , and travel around the sothern parts of your country. Clown.

"I have seen alot of uneducated people..."

I know. Every day you wake up and look in the mirror. And that's Mr. Clown to you, Mr. I don't even know how to spell southern.

So, when you gonna hand over your keys?

Charlie wrote:

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Jeff, Dude. That's what they said about the wire tapping. Now look what's happening, they record all of your phone calls and store them in a giant computer complex in the Arizona desert. They are compiling a great big folder on every American so they can use it against us in the near future. The only ones that will be safe are the ones that take the micro chip implant. Be Safe Brother. Keep looking behind you, THEY'RE COMING!

I agree with you. But i served in the Army and they already know everything about me. So i have nothing to hide from them that they don't already know.

I like to run around in my home naked, bet you didn't think of that.

I WATCH FOX NEWS wrote:

NOT ENOUGH!!!
I THINK EVERY PERSON SHOULD BE THUMB RETINAL AND DNA SCAN.
CAMERAS SHOULD INHABIT ANY PLACE THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING, OBVIOUSLY IN PUBLIC. BUT ALSO IN PEOPLES HOMES, THESE CAMERAS SHOULD BE FED TO HUB WHERE PEOPLE MONITOR THE FEEDS AND SEND LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN APPLICABLE.
NOW MY ONLY QUESTION PEOPLE IS IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THESE MEASURES
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING.
BRAVO FEDS
BUT NOT ENOUGH!!

RedneckPhilosopher wrote:

<quoted text>...And yet on one level, DNA can be a useful tool in clearing/eliminating certain SUSPECTS while narrowing in on the actually GUILTY culprits. So from one standpoint, DNA of suspect parties would be a useful tool for investigators AT THE SUSPECT STAGE...

Yes, true. However, simply taking a DNA sample everytime someone is arrested is a bit ridiculous. All too often cases are not pursued and the money should not be wasted, nor should the privacy be invaded.

Polygamy Family vs Lesbian Family

What is the difference? Why is one better than the other?

Of course i am talking about over 18 yrs of age..

i understand what you all are saying but i am a convicted felon and i don't need feds to sit there and say i did something in another state an i've lived where i am i just dont see the point unless someone is raping or molesting someone or being killed but even then i don't see how someone can take someone's dna when they are arrested i only see it being taken when that person is convicted

DNA samples should be obtained from state and local offenders, not just federal offenders!