Air Force officers relieved of duty over loose nukes

Highlander wrote:

Right.
Please SHOW ME the USAF pilot, copilot, and aircrew who =DON'T= know that they are carrying a load of NUCLEAR material in the name of CRUISE MISSILES under their wings/in the bays of their about-to-be-flown aircraft.
PLEASE DO SHOW ME!
This so-called 'news story' is nothing other than a cover for what =REALLY= happened: Someone found out about the illegal movement of arms, and =responsibly= reported the matter to the local media.

Seentheotherside wrote:

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You got that right!
So far it seems that Cheney ordered a covert operation to load them up. And when some true American's alerted officials and the press, they were all set to go to an airfield near Iran. So gee, I wonder what they'd be used for?
And what a childish story to try covering up the incident. I mean the top level clearance needed to get nuclear weapons released from such a highly secured area, move and attach them to a jet, then transport them, didn't just "happen". To make it sound like gee, they were just laying around and got loaded on a jet, oops, is just plain stupid.

Seentheotherside wrote:

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You got that right!
So far it seems that Cheney ordered a covert operation to load them up. And when some true American's alerted officials and the press, they were all set to go to an airfield near Iran. So gee, I wonder what they'd be used for?
And what a childish story to try covering up the incident. I mean the top level clearance needed to get nuclear weapons released from such a highly secured area, move and attach them to a jet, then transport them, didn't just "happen". To make it sound like gee, they were just laying around and got loaded on a jet, oops, is just plain stupid.

CRIC wrote:

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Someone posted earlier that the warheads were secretly headed to an X-soviet state by a radical faction of the U.S. government to be aimed at Russia and Iran but the plan was folded by a military official.
It sounds like one of them conspiracy movies. What's your take, fellas?

lastword wrote:

The probe into the incident, which ended this week, lists five errors -- all of them procedural failures to check, verify and inspect, Newton said

Cywar wrote:

Good comments guys. Very interesting. I wonder if Admiral Fallon had anything to do with stopping this incident. Is he a good guy? He seems to be determined not to go to war with Iran.
I am awake and stiring the pot in my town !!

Seentheotherside wrote:

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That's the big question. Although not just Admiral Fallon, who in the military will stop Bush & Cheney from taking over the entire country and setting up a full blown dictatorship?
On May 9, 2007 President Bush issued two new presidential directives, National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51 and Homeland Security Presidential Directive/HSPD -20. According to the White House press release,“This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes ‘National Essential Functions,’ prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.”
In case you do not understand governmental gobbly-gook, it says that in the case of a “catastrophic emergency”[The president gets to decide when a national emergency should be declared. He also gets to decide when the emergency is finished.] Bush has granted himself the power to run the entire federal government without any checks and balances, in other words dictatorial powers. The document states that,“The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government.”
And these presidential directives will only be implemented in the event of an emergency as defined as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government function.” According to the directives, the emergency could include,“localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies.” In effect, anything from a hacker attack, an earthquake, hurricane, or another 9/11 type attack could trigger the declaration of a national emergency.
According to the directives, he would be assisted by the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism who will create a National Continuity Implementation Plan. This person will become the National Continuity Coordinator. The implementation plan will guide not only the federal government, but also “state, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure.” The plan will impact all government functions at any level and many private sector functions as well, including communications. The directives also give a prominent role to the Vice-President. With Dick Cheney assisting the president, what do we have to worry about?
Even though the new position of National Continuity Coordinator carries tremendous powers, it appears that the job can be filled by the president without the consent of Congress, without hearings, or any interference by the legislative branch. Even the declaration of the national emergency does not appear to require any Congressional action or oversight. In fact the new presidential directives make no reference whatsoever to Congress and any effective role of the legislature. But why would a dictator want to be bothered by a pesky legislature?
This is NO joke, you can look them up yourself. So contact your House Representative(s) and demand they IMPEACH Bush AND Cheney before it’s too late.

Lance Winslow wrote:

<quoted text>Thank God the founding fathers gave us a constitutional right to bear arms.

Lance Winslow wrote:

<quoted text>Thank God the founding fathers gave us a constitutional right to bear arms.

Dana Hawn wrote:

I heard thru the grapevine that this was actually done to see if it could be done. I heard it was no mistake, no error. Imagine... exactly what that means.

Lance Winslow wrote:

The procedures for accounting for thermonuclear weapons were designed to be 'fail-safe'. They could not be circumvented. Same goes for procedures which preclude a detonation of a weapon. Same standards, same planning, same oversight.
It's remarkable that the buck stopped at the rank of colonel. Accountability was at the Pentagon level. The guys who drive the bus and deliver the mail got canned; perhaps the generals will quietly retire.