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#975
Mar 9, 2008
 
The Truth wrote:
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Let me explain it this way DUMB ASS!! Two Thousand Lives in America Saved in 2007, two Thousand lives saved in America in 2006, AND our saved lives were women and children. Now that being said LOVE AMERICA or get your sorry chicken shit ass out!! Freedom is not free, OUR brave American sons and daughters are dying for "US" shit head!!!
You would do well to heed the advice of Benjamin Franklin when he wrote:

"people willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both"

You and your ilk absolutely deserve EXACTLY what you have coming. Your idiocy reminds me of the cheering university students as Pol Pot rolled triumphantly through the streets of Phnom Penh. The American version of the Khmer Rouge has already taken over your country and started secret prisons, torture, and who knows what else and idiots like you are cheering and supporting this dramatic loss of freedom.

In the not too distant future, when ALL Americans are considered "terror suspects" and you and your loved ones are marched out to the killing fields by your beloved Gestapo, keep in mind that you have been begging for this to happen to you and your loved ones and NOBODY on earth deserves it as much as you do.
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#976
Mar 9, 2008
 
FORMIDABLE FOE

America is the birthday cake of earth
As the ants march from every direction.
Thank God for all who have sworn to defend her
Serving with love, honor, pride, and affection.

Since the first day George Washington marched off to war
There have been those who have wished our demise.
Their hatred, fueled by jealousy and greed
Was defeated by our brave and the wise.

Once again, we must face a formidable foe
Who have pledged by their God to destroy us all
Misusing their faith as an excuse to kill
As for a worldwide jihad, their leaders call.

Some say we should try to appease them
For if we resist, they’ll hate us even more.
But the David's among us shall cast our stones
Defeating them, as it was done before.

THE HORNETS of HELL

The hornets of hell swarm from their nest
Overwhelming all the victims they can.
To sting as many souls as possible
In their destruction of the glory of man.

They murder, rob, rape and plunder
While provoking the meek to submit.
They lie, deceive and mislead
And depend on the world to forget.

Eager to enhance their numbers
They are the cheerleaders of disgrace.
Their agendas of sin must be stopped
For the betterment of each race.

Endless is God’s test of time
To measure man’s spiritual worth
Unwholesome deeds tempt us all
Festering in the repugnance of earth.

The hornets of hell are on the hunt
In all directions by day or night.
The Armor of God shields man’s soul
And gives us our resolve to fight.

The champions of heaven in rapture await
To see who will stumble and fall.
They watch us struggle, in our world of woe
As they pray we will heed, God’s call.

Fools declare we must hide from view
And leave the hornets of hell alone
But when we ignore the liabilities of life
The failings of man become, our own.

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#978
Mar 9, 2008
 
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You F------ Idiot! We actually have troups fighting so F------ Idiots like you can get their sorry ass on here and voice bull shit like that!!!
You are flat ass brain dead!!
The troops are following orders.They don't have the same rights as the citizens whose freedom they fight for, whether those orders are wrong or right. They signed the paper and follow orders by the Commander in Chief.
It is a citizens and Congress' duty to do oversight and make sure the troops aren't being abused by the Commander in Chief.
Unfortunately there are people who are partisan robots and will stand up and yell out words and phrases like,"treason,support the troops, If you don't support the President you don't support the troops."
You sorry ass wanna be patriot, you are no better than the terrorists for acting in such a manner. Supporting the troops does not mean acting like a moronic robot.It means paying attention and doing your duty as a citizen. They do theirs give, them some real support rather than lip service.
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Mar 9, 2008
 
http://goleft.tv/view.asp...
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#980
Mar 9, 2008
 
europa wrote:
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Oh no the neo cons are invading Topix. Run for the hills or they will get you with their anti liberal fascist doctine.
Nice list of those typical lefty ‘buzz words’ but if you had only mentioned Halliburton and Rove, oh and Chaney you would have won me over!
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#981
Mar 9, 2008
 
All the above discussions are not bringing the Troops home, the people we are defending will hate us for generations to come,they have and will be continued to be taught that. I want no other man or woman to be killed.We should stay out of other peoples business.We did not even find Bin Laden yet we are fighting with another country ..he is the one we should be going after if anyone.
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Mar 9, 2008
 
myself wrote:
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And your recommendation for obtaining information is what exactly?
Invite them over for dinner?
LOL! Your response to my post that there are dozens of cases of torture involving people that were innocent and later released is the PERFECT example of the idiocy of those supporting this President and his demand to torture people.

You ask how would we get information from them if we do not torture them. Obviously the word INNOCENT completely escapes your comprehension level. Innocent people don't have information and torturing them will only result in bad information.

While there seems to be a few serial posters expressing support for anything Der Smirkenfuhrer Bush wants to do, I take great solace in the fact that the vast majority here and in America REJECT fully this policy of torture.

Cheers to all of you that understand our freedom under the guise of protecting us!
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Mar 9, 2008
 
citizen contraire wrote:
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If he wanted to protect the country he would have done it BEFORE 9-11. Once again...I'm not alone
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
Bush and Cheney are war criminals...Bush doesn't need any help with destruction... He's real good at it all by himself.
"Majority believe Bush has committed impeachable offenses.
A new American Research Group poll finds that 55 percent of voters believe President Bush has “abused his powers” in a manner that rises “to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution,” yet just 34 percent believe he should actually be impeached. Fifty-two percent say that Vice President Cheney has similarly abused his powers, with 43 percent supporting impeachment."
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/13/majority-...
Citizen comrade, so why will the Democrats (majority in both houses) NOT do the right thing and impeach them both? And with all of 7 1/2 months in office he was to do what to whom? Bomb an Aspirin factory? How about an original thought or are you just content with the kook web site quotes?
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#984
Mar 9, 2008
 
E Howard Bailey wrote:
Google "Freedom's Enemies, Barack Hussein Obama"
By Beckwith.
Vast on-going file on Obama from his African relatives to the present, backed up by links to his speeches, books and matters of record.
Reputable author.
Learn what Obama doesn't want you to know.
Are you from Texas?

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#985
Mar 9, 2008
 
The king has no clothes wrote:
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You would do well to heed the advice of Benjamin Franklin when he wrote:
"people willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both"
You and your ilk absolutely deserve EXACTLY what you have coming. Your idiocy reminds me of the cheering university students as Pol Pot rolled triumphantly through the streets of Phnom Penh. The American version of the Khmer Rouge has already taken over your country and started secret prisons, torture, and who knows what else and idiots like you are cheering and supporting this dramatic loss of freedom.
In the not too distant future, when ALL Americans are considered "terror suspects" and you and your loved ones are marched out to the killing fields by your beloved Gestapo, keep in mind that you have been begging for this to happen to you and your loved ones and NOBODY on earth deserves it as much as you do.
wow those words from a country where you can buy a family for the right price. china is one of the worst countrys on earth for inhumane treatment of people. you obviously know nothing about the us.

it wasnt that long ago that one million people protested there and alot of those that had the guts to protest disapeared off the face of the earth.

you are right america is horribe tell all you know to stay away.

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#986
Mar 9, 2008
 
Chuck Zimmerman wrote:
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The only extremists WE need to fear are in OUR Whitehouse.
If what you say is true than we are in good shape...for now!

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#987
Mar 9, 2008
 
Kahuna wrote:
All you Libs should thank those who have decided to save Western Society and yes even you from violent extermination by these immoral deranged Islamists. Bush has accepted all the responsibility and all the hatred from the ‘Can’t- we -just -all -get –along’ left to save all of us. The Islamist fanatics needed no further reasons or excuses to truly torture and kill us all. Time is on their side. They already hated us as much as they could in the Clinton years- the difference was just Clinton’s good fortune to have missed TWC massacre. There were 3, yes THREE water boardings by the US ‘CIA types’, none by the military, since this Islamist-declared World War was FINALLY joined in after 9/11/2001 by the Coalition of those with the Will to Survive- that would be US/us and a few friends. Before anyone whines any more about 3 ‘water boardings’ one should Google and watch the videos of the slow, sloppy sawing/butchering of those ‘beheaded’. If you don’t want to see it (it is truly a horror to watch) I understand. Even I, a 25 year veteran ER Physician of the Shock/Trauma ER, still am terrorized by the images and screams of the bound men subjected to this barbarous act of having their neck sawn off over the course of a few minutes as they struggle, shudder, gurgle and spray blood during their worst nightmare… then look at youtube videos of college frat boys water boarding each other for fun. Any questions about so called torture of the 3 Islamists?
A nice chunk of Western Society was lost when we began to use techniques we once convicted our enemies of war crimes for using.

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#988
Mar 9, 2008
 
Chuck Zimmerman wrote:
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And the sky might fall tommorrow.
Cowards are so always.
Good response Chuck, shows you a real opinion there.

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The king has no clothes wrote:
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You would do well to heed the advice of Benjamin Franklin when he wrote:
"people willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both"
You and your ilk absolutely deserve EXACTLY what you have coming. Your idiocy reminds me of the cheering university students as Pol Pot rolled triumphantly through the streets of Phnom Penh. The American version of the Khmer Rouge has already taken over your country and started secret prisons, torture, and who knows what else and idiots like you are cheering and supporting this dramatic loss of freedom.
In the not too distant future, when ALL Americans are considered "terror suspects" and you and your loved ones are marched out to the killing fields by your beloved Gestapo, keep in mind that you have been begging for this to happen to you and your loved ones and NOBODY on earth deserves it as much as you do.
"Dung Still Has No Brain"

You sir, have a warped mind, at best brainwashed at worst a flat out spreader of misinformation, ie. BS.
The country you post from executes far and away more if it's citizens than any country on the planet.
You and your ilk already have what they deserve. Nothing.
Glad you are there. Would not want to be you.
Peace

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#990
Mar 9, 2008
 
Omar wrote:
One response, any country should do the same with any American for a reason or no reason to send a clear message to the cowerd Bush
Amen....please all countries America if fighting with, use only waterboarding as your torcher technique, that is all we ask.

If we could only hope for them to do to us as we do to them....
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Mar 9, 2008
 
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wow those words from a country where you can buy a family for the right price. china is one of the worst countrys on earth for inhumane treatment of people. you obviously know nothing about the us.
it wasnt that long ago that one million people protested there and alot of those that had the guts to protest disapeared off the face of the earth.
you are right america is horribe tell all you know to stay away.
Yep, millions of Americans try to get into China (illegally) every year for the good life-and all the lead paint you can eat since that cats 'left'!
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citizen contraire wrote:
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If he wanted to protect the country he would have done it BEFORE 9-11. Once again...I'm not alone
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
Bush and Cheney are war criminals...Bush doesn't need any help with destruction... He's real good at it all by himself.
"Majority believe Bush has committed impeachable offenses.
A new American Research Group poll finds that 55 percent of voters believe President Bush has “abused his powers” in a manner that rises “to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution,” yet just 34 percent believe he should actually be impeached. Fifty-two percent say that Vice President Cheney has similarly abused his powers, with 43 percent supporting impeachment."
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/13/majority-...
Your like a tape of move on dot org. Yes many share the same passive agressive traits known to mental healt professionals.
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#993
Mar 9, 2008
 
Ridge wrote:
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A nice chunk of Western Society was lost when we began to use techniques we once convicted our enemies of war crimes for using.
And as a whiner you took my challenge and saw an Islamist beheading video of course?
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#994
Mar 9, 2008
 
Waterboarding is a legitimate method of data extraction from terrorists. It is one interrogation method that should be used against both Bush & Cheney to determine the truth behind 9/11.
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Tom Zart wrote:
FORMIDABLE FOE
America is the birthday cake of earth
As the ants march from every direction.
Thank God for all who have sworn to defend her
Serving with love, honor, pride, and affection.
Since the first day George Washington marched off to war
There have been those who have wished our demise.
Their hatred, fueled by jealousy and greed
Was defeated by our brave and the wise.
Great job!!!!
Once again, we must face a formidable foe
Who have pledged by their God to destroy us all
Misusing their faith as an excuse to kill
As for a worldwide jihad, their leaders call.
Some say we should try to appease them
For if we resist, they’ll hate us even more.
But the David's among us shall cast our stones
Defeating them, as it was done before.
THE HORNETS of HELL
The hornets of hell swarm from their nest
Overwhelming all the victims they can.
To sting as many souls as possible
In their destruction of the glory of man.
They murder, rob, rape and plunder
While provoking the meek to submit.
They lie, deceive and mislead
And depend on the world to forget.
Eager to enhance their numbers
They are the cheerleaders of disgrace.
Their agendas of sin must be stopped
For the betterment of each race.
Endless is God’s test of time
To measure man’s spiritual worth
Unwholesome deeds tempt us all
Festering in the repugnance of earth.
The hornets of hell are on the hunt
In all directions by day or night.
The Armor of God shields man’s soul
And gives us our resolve to fight.
The champions of heaven in rapture await
To see who will stumble and fall.
They watch us struggle, in our world of woe
As they pray we will heed, God’s call.
Fools declare we must hide from view
And leave the hornets of hell alone
But when we ignore the liabilities of life
The failings of man become, our own.
By Tom Zart
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