Bush veto expected on waterboard ban

America Akbar wrote:

<quoted text>LMAO!!! How the hell are you even on the internet you Commie. You better watch what you type or the Chinese secret police will come kicking in your door to make an example out of you. LMAO!!!! Silly Commie's commenting on how a free country should be run.

Kahuna wrote:

<quoted text>Yep, millions of Americans try to get into China (illegally) every year for the good life-and all the lead paint you can eat since that cats 'left'!

Pete Tong wrote:

Waterboarding is a legitimate method of data extraction from terrorists. It is one interrogation method that should be used against both Bush & Cheney to determine the truth behind 9/11.

The Truth wrote:

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You F------ Idiot! We actually have troups fighting so F------ Idiots like you can get their sorry ass on here and voice bull shit like that!!!
You are flat ass brain dead!!

Blue Star Dad wrote:

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Great job!!!!!!

Blue Star Dad wrote:

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Your like a tape of move on dot org. Yes many share the same passive agressive traits known to mental healt professionals.

Kahuna wrote:

<quoted text>Citizen comrade, so why will the Democrats (majority in both houses) NOT do the right thing and impeach them both? And with all of 7 1/2 months in office he was to do what to whom? Bomb an Aspirin factory? How about an original thought or are you just content with the kook web site quotes?

citizen contraire wrote:

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Ahh.....but the question is....Have I been wrong about anything? Have I given an opinion or information that can be disproved or didn't have a qualifier or footnote? The problem is, I present another way of looking at things and I can prove what I'm saying and it's not what people want to hear. The other problem is, I'm old and have seen all this before and I care enough to sit here, do the research and try to inject some truth into all the propaganda.
Yes, I know there are people fighting and dying on both sides. That is why conversations like this need to take place. My son is was one of them. A ten year Army vet, now disabled with little help from the VA.
These people that are dying are dying under false pretenses and they are dying for, among many other things, oil and imperialism.
Torture is bad and doesn't work and is illegal under the Genva Convention, which we signed. Integrity and honor matter. If we give up the rule of law, we give away everything and all the advances we've made as human beings. I think the issue is larger than just intelligence gathering. I understand there are terrorists and radicals that want to kill Americans. Maybe we better ask ourselves, why? I, too, want my family protected but there are other ways that don't involve giving our humanity away.
Do you seriously think a terrorist cares about what someone on Topix posts? lol There are a lot more disturbing things posted than what I post! I am more concerned with what of mine some telecommunications company is giving the government. There's something wrong in America when you have to watch what you say.
Once again, if I have given mistaken information I have no problem being corrected. Name calling accomplishes nothing.

ucantbsrius wrote:

<quoted text>of what? pseudo intellectual patriotic spew!!!!!!!

The Truth wrote:

"people willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both"
You and your ilk absolutely deserve EXACTLY what you have coming. Your idiocy reminds me of the cheering university students as Pol Pot rolled triumphantly through the streets of Phnom Penh. The American version of the Khmer Rouge has already taken over your country and started secret prisons, torture, and who knows what else and idiots like you are cheering and supporting this dramatic loss of freedom.
In the not too distant future, when ALL Americans are considered "terror suspects" and you and your loved ones are marched out to the killing fields by your beloved Gestapo, keep in mind that you have been begging for this to happen to you and your loved ones and NOBODY on earth deserves it as much as you do.
As I said before you are a DUMB ASS! The big difference in me and you is that I can protect MY own ass you accept what everyone tells you and bend over and spread your cheeks! "DUMMIE"

citizen contraire wrote:

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Facts, my friend...insults are for children.
BTW...I don't subscribe to Move on. I'm registered democrat, social liberal (notice, I did not say ultra-liberal) and a fiscal conservative. The views I have been formed since Eisenhower's military industrial complex speech. They are also my own. I am no ones sheep.

tsunamimommy wrote:

How would our political leaders know if water-boarding is torture or not? Let's have the ones voteing in favor of the procedure be water boarded themselves ---- then they'd know if it was torture or not. They could then change their vote if they felt it was.

Tom Zart wrote:

FORMIDABLE FOE
America is the birthday cake of earth
As the ants march from every direction.
Thank God for all who have sworn to defend her
Serving with love, honor, pride, and affection.
Since the first day George Washington marched off to war
There have been those who have wished our demise.
Their hatred, fueled by jealousy and greed
Was defeated by our brave and the wise.
Once again, we must face a formidable foe
Who have pledged by their God to destroy us all
Misusing their faith as an excuse to kill
As for a worldwide jihad, their leaders call.
Some say we should try to appease them
For if we resist, they’ll hate us even more.
But the David's among us shall cast our stones
Defeating them, as it was done before.
THE HORNETS of HELL
The hornets of hell swarm from their nest
Overwhelming all the victims they can.
To sting as many souls as possible
In their destruction of the glory of man.
They murder, rob, rape and plunder
While provoking the meek to submit.
They lie, deceive and mislead
And depend on the world to forget.
Eager to enhance their numbers
They are the cheerleaders of disgrace.
Their agendas of sin must be stopped
For the betterment of each race.
Endless is God’s test of time
To measure man’s spiritual worth
Unwholesome deeds tempt us all
Festering in the repugnance of earth.
The hornets of hell are on the hunt
In all directions by day or night.
The Armor of God shields man’s soul
And gives us our resolve to fight.
The champions of heaven in rapture await
To see who will stumble and fall.
They watch us struggle, in our world of woe
As they pray we will heed, God’s call.
Fools declare we must hide from view
And leave the hornets of hell alone
But when we ignore the liabilities of life
The failings of man become, our own.
By Tom Zart

john henry wrote:

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If your son was captured by terrorists in Iraq and you had a choice that he be, at the worst, put through water boarding, or you had no choice but to leave it up to his captures and let them decide on the technique, which would you choose?
PLEASE, give me an honest answer to this.

john henry wrote:

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If your son was captured by terrorists in Iraq and you had a choice that he be, at the worst, put through water boarding, or you had no choice but to leave it up to his captures and let them decide on the technique, which would you choose?
PLEASE, give me an honest answer to this.

Easy Ed wrote:

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"Kahuna"
Loved your post to "citizen"!!
Have no fear, democrats will not move for impeachment. They lack conviction. As all can see this latest congress, controlled by democrats has accomplished virtually nothing.Lots of talk, lots of rhetoric and lots of nothing. Collectively they have nary a hair on their fannies.
Peace

citizen contraire wrote:

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Ahh.....but the question is....Have I been wrong about anything? Have I given an opinion or information that can be disproved or didn't have a qualifier or footnote? The problem is, I present another way of looking at things and I can prove what I'm saying and it's not what people want to hear. The other problem is, I'm old and have seen all this before and I care enough to sit here, do the research and try to inject some truth into all the propaganda.
Yes, I know there are people fighting and dying on both sides. That is why conversations like this need to take place. My son is was one of them. A ten year Army vet, now disabled with little help from the VA.
These people that are dying are dying under false pretenses and they are dying for, among many other things, oil and imperialism.
Torture is bad and doesn't work and is illegal under the Genva Convention, which we signed. Integrity and honor matter. If we give up the rule of law, we give away everything and all the advances we've made as human beings. I think the issue is larger than just intelligence gathering. I understand there are terrorists and radicals that want to kill Americans. Maybe we better ask ourselves, why? I, too, want my family protected but there are other ways that don't involve giving our humanity away.
Do you seriously think a terrorist cares about what someone on Topix posts? lol There are a lot more disturbing things posted than what I post! I am more concerned with what of mine some telecommunications company is giving the government. There's something wrong in America when you have to watch what you say.
Once again, if I have given mistaken information I have no problem being corrected. Name calling accomplishes nothing.

Blue Star Dad wrote:

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If it bugs you, a useful ideot of the left, it just tickles the heck out of me. Patriotism is a bad thing? You say it like a dirty word.

john henry wrote:

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If your son was captured by terrorists in Iraq and you had a choice that he be, at the worst, put through water boarding, or you had no choice but to leave it up to his captures and let them decide on the technique, which would you choose?
PLEASE, give me an honest answer to this.