The President has failed us

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I feel sorry for him if he is re-elected. Think of the mess he will inherit.

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>I'm euphoric that we're rooting out fraud in the program, just as this Administration has been rooting out fraud in Medicare. That's always good news, don't you think? Now, can we get rid of corruption in Congress. Again, you focus on SOCIAL WELFARE. You're a dimwit, because 3X as much is spent on CORPORATE WELFARE. What is wrong with you mean spirited stupid, stupid people? You'd rather pick on the weak and vulnerable than the powerful people who are sucking up your tax dollars. You have your heads up your azzes, and I find your focus to be appalling and unconscionable. Pick, pick, pick.
I thought you wanted to spend LESS in taxes? Well, get busy focusing on corruption at the top where Billions and Billions of tax dollars are misdirected and not collected. Why aren't you livid at employers for hiring illegal and foreign visa workers instead of American and legal immigrant workers? Why aren't you distraught that our children are coming out of colleges strapped with student loan debt as high as $125,000 before they ever get the first job, and when they can't find a job in their field are forced to accept any job offer at any level before the axe falls? Why is that? Why aren't you outraged by this?
You selfish self-centered azzhats cannot grab enough back from the poor to make your lives better, and you cannot stand up to those who control your lives. Instead, you prefer to bow and scrape to your corporate masters like beggars looking for a handout. They will never willingly give you a handout nor will they give you a hand up. You support the exact same policies that put you in this position of uncertainty today. Unreal. You're not a child. Daddy is not giving you a handout. He's spending it on his girlfriend. If you want to participate in a free market economy get your azz in gear and start lobbying for a FREE market economy, not capitulate to predator capitalists who are destroying the model right before your very eyes while you look in the opposite direction pointing at victims and oblivious to the reality.

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higgans wrote:

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that just about sums it up...
less IS better

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Guest wrote:

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It'll still be Bush' mess,even if he leaves in 2017.

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Can you tell me how it is that you know that welfare recipients are NOT LOOKING to better their lot and are just living off the labors of others? Are you living in a cave somewhere? How many welfare recipients do you personally know in order to have reached this enlightened assessment of who receives welfare? You're pretty laughable alright. How about you supply me with some statistics that supports your contention about welfare users? I'll wait.

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

Obama is still the better deal for most Americans. That's why I'll have to cast my vote for him. His opposition didn't get it right. It's somewhat a case of the lesser of two evils. That's what it boils down to.
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fishaholic wrote:

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THAT is all you got out of that article? You're happy that fraud is being rooted out?... Did you happen to read that ineligible people are getting food stamps?... Do you really think there are 16 MILLION more poor people that now require foodstamps since last year? I guess 76 BILLION is just peanuts so no need to worry about wasting that. News flash, social welfare accounts for more gov't spending than even the DOD. LOOK UP THE NUMBERS!! It is UNSUSTAINABLE. This issues is about welfare waste and abuse. Don't start changing subjects again about corporate taxes and the like. Let's stick to one subject at a time. Why do I have to keep reminding you to stop changing subjects when you have no argument on the current one? Read the entire article (without the filter on your glasses). Why is USDA pushing so hard to sign people up for foodstamps? Why are bonuses being give out to do so? Why are there "special waivers" given to people that wouldn't normally qualify for foodstamps? Why is there still SO MUCH fraud and waste in the system. Should there be more accountability over the monies before just dumping the next truckload into it? You fail to understand any of these issues so you start going off subject and talking about corporate taxes... Right now, my link was about how much the gov't wastes on a corrupt system that sucks the life out of the taxpayers. You don't want to discuss the meat of the subject so you deflect and change subjects. Thanks again for ignoring what this administration is doing to bankrupt this nation.

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Jeff T in MPLS wrote:

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That is a lot of class envy from someone that has done ok in life.
Question for you:
Who creates more jobs in America?
10,000 welfare recipients
or
10 wealthy people?
Whether they put it in a savings account at the bank (teller, loan officer), buy a boat (salesperson, prep person), buy steaks (butcher) or vacation (all the hotel, local store and restaurant employees they encounter), they fuel the economy.
Welfare, WIC and EBT do NOT fuel the economy (well, they do purchase food from the store, but, ironically, with the stores own tax money all those store employee tax dollars, so it is not as much REAL revenue to the store as if someone walked in with privately earned cash and made the same dollar purchase).
Second question:
How much money of the wealthy go to the "underground/untaxed " economy?
Very little if any.
How much welfare, food stamps and other subsidezed government program money goes to the underground/untaxed economy?
Here is Washington State alone:
The Office of Special Investigation recently got a financial boost from the Legislature in its drive to crack down on fraud, theft and other crimes in DSHS programs. The state allotted about $2.7 million for the office's regular operations this biennium budget period (July 1, 1989, to June 30, 1991) and $3.45 million to expand its fraud-detection program, commonly referred to as FRED.
The office's total budget the previous biennium, ending June 1989, was about $2.6 million, Smith said. In 1989, there was only a pilot FRED program limited to two cities: Seattle and Puyallup. Money for the pilot program was siphoned from that budget period, Smith said.
Tighter record-keeping will be one of many benefits of the expanded FRED program, Smith said. The Office of Special Investigation has the money to hire 22.5 additional investigators this year and 31 more investigators for 1991. The agency will have a staff of 110 by March 1991. It currently has a staff of 72. As of June 1989, it had a staff of 38, Smith said."
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/ar...
"“Each $5 dollars in new SNAP benefits generates almost twice that amount in economic activity for the community,” reads a government pamphlet posted by the Weekly Standard (the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program is the new name created by the 2008 Farm Bill for the food stamps program).“Everyone wins when eligible people take advantage of benefits to which they are entitled.”
Everybody wins, except those who have to pay for the food stamps. Somehow, they get left out of the equation.
That really is the calculus being done here. They refer to the commerce created when the food stamps are spent, but they don’t mention at all the commerce destroyed when money is taken from taxpayers to pay for those food stamps.
And why are we promoting food stamps use? Food stamps are supposed to be a safety net, not an entitlement program.
The full pamphlet is below."
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/food-stamps-...
http://www.king5.com/news/investigators/Busin...
http://tribune-democrat.com/editorials/x19296...
Not to mention their crack cocaine sales.

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, we're just really starting to get in there seriously and uncover fraud. This is happening under Obama's watch. Here again, your focus is on people getting food assistance. Let's continue rooting out fraud. The majority of those receiving this assistance are not doing so fraudulently, so we'd better be careful not to create hunger by throwing the baby out with the bath water. I don't want my tax dollars spent on ineligible people. At least get that straight. I just don't think there's a quick and easy way without investigation to separate the needy from the greedy.
On the other hand, wouldn't you care to discuss the $100 Billion we spend each year on corporate welfare and propping up companies that often don't have the business acumen to even be in business? Why are they receiving public welfare? Well, perhaps you consider them people, as does Mitt Romney. I beg to differ. They're entities, and failures should be allowed to fail.
Here's what bothers me enormously and why it's so hard to even think about calling myself a Republican again one day. I kind of hate being stuck out there as an Independent. I'd like that status to force both parties to address our concerns:
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/01...
*** The center cannot hold: These days, this isn’t a great time to be a moderate in Congress. And as we found out in Texas last night, it isn’t a great time to be perceived as a moderate, either. In announcing yesterday that he won’t seek re-election in November, Ohio GOP Rep. Steve LaTourette -- one of the most pro-labor Republicans in Congress -- bemoaned the partisanship on Capitol Hill.“I have reached the conclusion that the atmosphere today, and the reality that exists in the House of Representatives, no longer encourages the finding of common ground,” he said, per NBC’s Frank Thorp. A day earlier, fellow GOP Rep. Richard Hanna of New York told the Syracuse Post-Standard’s editorial board that his party is too willing to cater to the ideological extreme.“I have to say that I’m frustrated by how much we — I mean the Republican Party — are willing to give deferential treatment to our extremes in this moment in history,” referring to Michele Bachmann’s political witch hunt against a top State Department aide.

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Aphelion wrote:

<quoted text>Just more baseless class envy. Again you ignore that these corporations that you hate so much actually employ individuals, pay taxes and purchase supplies and materials. In short they produce.

The poor on the other hand employ no one, pay no federal taxes but use the majority of social programs funded by federal taxes, purchase good and services with money earned by others. In short they produce very little if anything.

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>You missed the point - again. It's all in the connotation. Now, I'm sure you get the drift of my own attitude about the connotation, don't you? If not, let me spell it out, M-O-R-O-N ---> That's you. It's not racially or ethnically insensitive either. It's simply an appropriate description of your intellect, bigot.

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Idk where you're from, but come on down to the Arkansas Delta and you can see what "the poor" produce- thousands of fatherless children with g'mothers or great g'mothers raising them- but of course only the grands who do not have addictions beyond repair. We have problem in America! Wth will ever be solved!
Btw, I agree with all else you said.

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NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>10 Wealthy people have parked their money and are not creating jobs.