Obama Birth Certificate: Arizona Officials Revisit President's Eligibility To Hold Office

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US President Barack Obama makes a statement on his birth certificate at the White House in Washington, DC, on April 27, 2011.
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“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#223 Jul 7, 2012
Conservative girl wrote:
<quoted text>Porkie Pie I am embarrassed for you, to still carry this rejects water.
I'd say that personifies the definition of ignorant fool!!
I don't support Obama.

You can try using such an ignorant'y childish straw man argument if you wish, but that just makes you look even dumber.

Like morons I argue with who claim 911 was an inside job, then turn around and claim I'm supporting Bush simply because I support reality.

Have you heard of reality?

Do they have such a thing in birferdumb?
Johnny Gosch

Ishpeming, MI

#224 Jul 7, 2012
Rebel1 wrote:
BARACK - BARRY - HUSSEIN - MOHAMED - ABDULAH - SOETORO - OBAMA
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n qqer illegal alien
Penn State child-sex abuse scandal mirrors Omaha's “Franklin” horror
Nov 11, 2011 ... Omaha, of course, is where the notorious Franklin Cover-Up took place ...“
Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush.

http://deadlinelive.info/2011/11/11/penn-stat... - 108k -

“WestieLover”

Since: Apr 12

The city that I reside

#225 Jul 8, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>I don't support Obama.
You can try using such an ignorant'y childish straw man argument if you wish, but that just makes you look even dumber.
Like morons I argue with who claim 911 was an inside job, then turn around and claim I'm supporting Bush simply because I support reality.
Have you heard of reality?
Do they have such a thing in birferdumb?
Porkie, 9/11 was not a inside job.
Bush made some mistakes in governing too. But he at least tried his best to serve. I fault him for not erecting the border fence 100%. We'd probably have half the illegal population today in this country. There is no reason for it not being done in two years.
Obama is a failure. He never ran anything in his life, doesn't know how to fix the economy, only believes the Federal Government is the answer for all our woes. The government is the problem not the solution. Get government out of our lives, out of the way of business and you'd see employment soar. His additional EPA regulations is stifling growth.
Obama is steering this country towards the European Socialist model and fails to see that model is emploding as we speak abroad.
Obama is bad for America, a weak leader, who it appears only cares about his reelection. As this man has never stopped in that effort the entire time of his Presidency.
There lies true reality!!

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#226 Jul 8, 2012
You folks look at this? Go JOE Hot Dog, watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
Cosmic Muffin

Noblesville, IN

#227 Jul 8, 2012
Johnny Gosch wrote:
<quoted text>Penn State child-sex abuse scandal mirrors Omaha's “Franklin” horror
Nov 11, 2011 ... Omaha, of course, is where the notorious Franklin Cover-Up took place ...“
Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush.
http://deadlinelive.info/2011/11/11/penn-stat... - 108k -
Is that your real name, or are you just a cruel bastard for using it?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#228 Jul 9, 2012
Conservative girl wrote:
<quoted text>Porkie, 9/11 was not a inside job.
Bush made some mistakes in governing too. But he at least tried his best to serve. I fault him for not erecting the border fence 100%. We'd probably have half the illegal population today in this country. There is no reason for it not being done in two years.
Obama is a failure. He never ran anything in his life, doesn't know how to fix the economy, only believes the Federal Government is the answer for all our woes. The government is the problem not the solution. Get government out of our lives, out of the way of business and you'd see employment soar. His additional EPA regulations is stifling growth.
Obama is steering this country towards the European Socialist model and fails to see that model is emploding as we speak abroad.
Obama is bad for America, a weak leader, who it appears only cares about his reelection. As this man has never stopped in that effort the entire time of his Presidency.
There lies true reality!!
My point is that 911 conspiracy theorists use fallacious logic that's been shown time after time as being complete bs...birthers do exactly the same thing in that they spout ridiculous stories of "faked" documents even though courts and experts have time and again shown them to be authentic.

I get that you don't like Obama, and most likely all Democrats, but using birther bs to justify dislike or disagreement of his policies doesn't further your cause in ridding the US of those policies.

“WestieLover”

Since: Apr 12

The city that I reside

#231 Jul 10, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>My point is that 911 conspiracy theorists use fallacious logic that's been shown time after time as being complete bs...birthers do exactly the same thing in that they spout ridiculous stories of "faked" documents even though courts and experts have time and again shown them to be authentic.
I get that you don't like Obama, and most likely all Democrats, but using birther bs to justify dislike or disagreement of his policies doesn't further your cause in ridding the US of those policies.
The Birth Certificates both have been proven frauds. He has sealed all his records so we cannot confirm what name, citizenship status, papers, grades are noted. Everything about Obama is fake. Many Democrats are disenchanted, Conservatives are mobilized. We are at a cross-roads in this country on whether we continue down a failed path or try real change which will restore this country's greatness. Nothing will be done on Obama's birth status, he has buried, burned, sealed, and obtained the help of many influencial people to prevent it. Anyone who feels the same as I vote NO TO OBAMA this November 2012!!

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#232 Jul 10, 2012
Conservative girl wrote:
<quoted text>The Birth Certificates both have been proven frauds. He has sealed all his records so we cannot confirm what name, citizenship status, papers, grades are noted. Everything about Obama is fake. Many Democrats are disenchanted, Conservatives are mobilized. We are at a cross-roads in this country on whether we continue down a failed path or try real change which will restore this country's greatness. Nothing will be done on Obama's birth status, he has buried, burned, sealed, and obtained the help of many influencial people to prevent it. Anyone who feels the same as I vote NO TO OBAMA this November 2012!!
Where were they PROVEN?
In the courts? NO!
Congress? NO!
Fact checking sites? NO!

Nothing has been proved by the wingnuts have told the lemmings it is fake and the lemmings swallowed the kool aid once again.

If you dislike the President, don't vote for him. If you dislike his policies express yourself to your representatives, or the White House directly. When the right has to resort to scare tactics and lies because they have no facts it only shows how ignorant they are on the REAL issues.

Case in point....The SCOTUS affirmed that the health care law is LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL however the right wing buffoons in know they do not have the votes to overturn the law in the house or the Senate yet they are wasting taxpayer money and time pushing this vote that will go no where......Why?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#233 Jul 10, 2012
Conservative girl wrote:
<quoted text>The Birth Certificates both have been proven frauds. He has sealed all his records so we cannot confirm what name, citizenship status, papers, grades are noted. Everything about Obama is fake. Many Democrats are disenchanted, Conservatives are mobilized. We are at a cross-roads in this country on whether we continue down a failed path or try real change which will restore this country's greatness. Nothing will be done on Obama's birth status, he has buried, burned, sealed, and obtained the help of many influencial people to prevent it. Anyone who feels the same as I vote NO TO OBAMA this November 2012!!
Prove they were frauds then.

And don't even try the crap about "layers". My wife is a graphics designer who works with Adobe products almost exclusively and when her kooky (but loveable) friend from Oklahoma sent her an email about it she just burst out laughing.

Here's a more accurate read,

"It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists —“reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com , dismissing the allegations.

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/ex...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#234 Jul 10, 2012
rollin wrote:
<quoted text>
Where were they PROVEN?
In the courts? NO!
Congress? NO!
Fact checking sites? NO!
Nothing has been proved by the wingnuts have told the lemmings it is fake and the lemmings swallowed the kool aid once again.
If you dislike the President, don't vote for him. If you dislike his policies express yourself to your representatives, or the White House directly. When the right has to resort to scare tactics and lies because they have no facts it only shows how ignorant they are on the REAL issues.
Case in point....The SCOTUS affirmed that the health care law is LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL however the right wing buffoons in know they do not have the votes to overturn the law in the house or the Senate yet they are wasting taxpayer money and time pushing this vote that will go no where......Why?
Exactly, exercise your right to not vote for Obama, find valid criticism and share it with others but seriously, spewing ridiculous birfer nonsense because you're (not you:-)) partisan and hate "the other party" is about as useful as using a hammer to shoo a fly from your face!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#235 Jul 10, 2012
"The Birthers go beyond simple conspiracy theories--they're cast members of the ongoing American denying-reality show, not unlike the folks who deny the moonlanding or the Holocaust (like James von Brunn, the octogenarian who killed a guard at the Washington, D.C., Holocaust Museum and who had earlier posted a screed entitled "WHO SENT YOU???," charging that Obama is utterly undocumented), and very much like the Creationists who insist that the Earth is but 6,000 years old, the Teabaggers who refuse to believe they must pay taxes, the 9/11 Truthers who say the government attacked the Twin Towers, and, as we might call them, the Inhofers who believe global warming is a hoax."

http://www.thenation.com/blog/birthers-nation... #

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#236 Jul 10, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly, exercise your right to not vote for Obama, find valid criticism and share it with others but seriously, spewing ridiculous birfer nonsense because you're (not you:-)) partisan and hate "the other party" is about as useful as using a hammer to shoo a fly from your face!
Amen. Think of the "issues" that the wingnuts have brought to the lemmings so far:

Obama is a muslim
Obama's CHRISTIAN minister is a racist (ironic)
Obama not a citizen (but can't seem to find that proof
Obama didn't go to college
Obama was a radical in college (more of that irony)
Obama wont salute the flag
Obama took an oath on the koran
Obama can't be a citizen because Hawaii was not yet a state (one of my personal favorites)
Obama chartered a plane for his dog
Obama made it illegal to protest against him (how did their nose not grow)
Obama apologized for America
Obama is a socialist (apparently they don't know what the word means)
Obama took a trip costing 200 million dollars a day ( but couldn't explain the numbers or produce a source)
Obama is Czar happy (yet bush created many more Czars than Obama)
Obama is vacation happy ( but bush had taken more vacations than Obama had for the same time span)

Maybe one day they will debate issues but the wingnuts only want to hear about the Jerry Springer stories not the issues.

It all comes down to ratings and money. Why are Rush, Hannity, Etc more popular? Simple really, which gets better ratings, Greco-Roman wrestling which is wrestling in its pure form or WWF Professional Wrestling which is all show and drama but nothing is real?

Anonymous

Bagdad, AZ

#237 Jul 10, 2012
Blah blah blah, just keep a clean record,stay out of prison so that you can VOTE him out of office. The past is the past, move onto the future with passion and sincerity.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#238 Jul 10, 2012
Gt-Ovr-Ur-Slf wrote:
Blah blah blah, just keep a clean record,stay out of prison so that you can VOTE him out of office. The past is the past, move onto the future with passion and sincerity.
Yep...but the HIM I am voting out is Mitt.

“WestieLover”

Since: Apr 12

The city that I reside

#240 Jul 11, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Prove they were frauds then.
And don't even try the crap about "layers". My wife is a graphics designer who works with Adobe products almost exclusively and when her kooky (but loveable) friend from Oklahoma sent her an email about it she just burst out laughing.
Here's a more accurate read,
"It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.
But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.
The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists —“reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.
But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.
“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com , dismissing the allegations.
He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.
“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”
Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.
“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/ex...
So you are calling the investigation and charge that the BC are frauds false in Maricopa County? That it was a mere witch hunt? Come on now, Obama's supporters are well-healed and committed Leftists who will to do whatever necessary to get him through any and all challenges in this matter. The BC are frauds, his selective service card is a fraud, he is using a fraudulent social security card belonging to someone else since the age of 15. Nothing about Obama is real, just a fabrication cooked up to play the electorate, and hey he succeeded for a while. But then all devious crooks eventually are found out. No about of protests otherwise will change the fact that we have a deceitful con artist in the White House.
PS keep your day job, if the brillance that you are married to is your expert witness on the matter, her job may be in jeapordy soon.
As even salivating Obama supporters have lost their positions due to Obama's economy. Besides, remember Rev. Wright? Obama has a tendency of dropping under the bus those who are nolonger viable tools. Now you folks personify "tools" if I ever saw one!!
Anonymous

Bagdad, AZ

#241 Jul 11, 2012
This is great,you are all making very good points keep up the good work. Only through discourse can we have clarity, once again keep it up all of you.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#242 Jul 11, 2012
Conservative girl wrote:
<quoted text>So you are calling the investigation and charge that the BC are frauds false in Maricopa County? That it was a mere witch hunt? Come on now, Obama's supporters are well-healed and committed Leftists who will to do whatever necessary to get him through any and all challenges in this matter. The BC are frauds, his selective service card is a fraud, he is using a fraudulent social security card belonging to someone else since the age of 15. Nothing about Obama is real, just a fabrication cooked up to play the electorate, and hey he succeeded for a while. But then all devious crooks eventually are found out. No about of protests otherwise will change the fact that we have a deceitful con artist in the White House.
PS keep your day job, if the brillance that you are married to is your expert witness on the matter, her job may be in jeapordy soon.
As even salivating Obama supporters have lost their positions due to Obama's economy. Besides, remember Rev. Wright? Obama has a tendency of dropping under the bus those who are nolonger viable tools. Now you folks personify "tools" if I ever saw one!!
Anyone can make an accusation.....proving it is another matter. How well has that worked out so far?

Can you say......chirp chirp?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#244 Jul 12, 2012
Conservative girl wrote:
<quoted text>So you are calling the investigation and charge that the BC are frauds false in Maricopa County? That it was a mere witch hunt? Come on now, Obama's supporters are well-healed and committed Leftists who will to do whatever necessary to get him through any and all challenges in this matter. The BC are frauds, his selective service card is a fraud, he is using a fraudulent social security card belonging to someone else since the age of 15. Nothing about Obama is real, just a fabrication cooked up to play the electorate, and hey he succeeded for a while. But then all devious crooks eventually are found out. No about of protests otherwise will change the fact that we have a deceitful con artist in the White House.
PS keep your day job, if the brillance that you are married to is your expert witness on the matter, her job may be in jeapordy soon.
As even salivating Obama supporters have lost their positions due to Obama's economy. Besides, remember Rev. Wright? Obama has a tendency of dropping under the bus those who are nolonger viable tools. Now you folks personify "tools" if I ever saw one!!
You're actually calling a racist witch hunt an investigation?

Still don't see any proof of this alleged fraud.

Are you scared to show what you base such a conclusion on because it'll just be ripped to shreds?

You're no different than morons who think 911 was an inside job, you just have a different bias.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#245 Jul 12, 2012
rollin wrote:
<quoted text>Amen. Think of the "issues" that the wingnuts have brought to the lemmings so far:

Obama is a muslim
Obama's CHRISTIAN minister is a racist (ironic)
Obama not a citizen (but can't seem to find that proof
Obama didn't go to college
Obama was a radical in college (more of that irony)
Obama wont salute the flag
Obama took an oath on the koran
Obama can't be a citizen because Hawaii was not yet a state (one of my personal favorites)
Obama chartered a plane for his dog
Obama made it illegal to protest against him (how did their nose not grow)
Obama apologized for America
Obama is a socialist (apparently they don't know what the word means)
Obama took a trip costing 200 million dollars a day ( but couldn't explain the numbers or produce a source)
Obama is Czar happy (yet bush created many more Czars than Obama)
Obama is vacation happy ( but bush had taken more vacations than Obama had for the same time span)

Maybe one day they will debate issues but the wingnuts only want to hear about the Jerry Springer stories not the issues.

It all comes down to ratings and money. Why are Rush, Hannity, Etc more popular? Simple really, which gets better ratings, Greco-Roman wrestling which is wrestling in its pure form or WWF Professional Wrestling which is all show and drama but nothing is real?
Too funny!

“WestieLover”

Since: Apr 12

The city that I reside

#246 Jul 12, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
You're actually calling a racist witch hunt an investigation?
Still don't see any proof of this alleged fraud.
Are you scared to show what you base such a conclusion on because it'll just be ripped to shreds?
You're no different than morons who think 911 was an inside job, you just have a different bias.
No I am calling you and your fellow shills fools for still carrying Obama's courrpt water.

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