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Quirky
Denver, CO
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justagi wrote: <quoted text>Nope, don't speak for all of us. Your "brown brothers and sisters" don't give a rat's patootie about your trust (if I'm allowed to speak for all of them, as you choose to do). There are a lot of Mexicans who claim to be Native to futher their cause. This may be the case here Justagi???
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Mary
Elyria, OH
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Junior wrote: <quoted text> Because I'm Native American and your opinion posted herein is morally disgusting. In a choice between the attitudes of white racist Americans which you've apparently chosen to adopt and welcoming my brown bothers and sisters from Mexico, I pick the latter. And any self-respecting, proud Native American would do the same. Oh puhleeze...get over yourself. Native Americans aren't so "native". They came from somewhere else too, moron. BTW, when Europeans first came to this nation, there WERE no immigration laws, so how do you figure, in your infinite wisdom, that they broke laws that did NOT exist? Idiot. Too much firewater? You act like Indians just sat around smoking peyote and singing Kum Bye Ya all day. You treated your women like SHIT, you fought each OTHER all the time, you took slaves, murdered your enemies. You have good and bad in your "culture" just like anyone else, so sit down and shut your pie hole, you drunk.
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Mary
Elyria, OH
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Juan wrote: <quoted text> Si. All Native American Indians welcome us. We are hermanos y hermanas mucho. I was once made honor member of Cherokee tribe. Chief Wilmana Whiteman Killer made me honor member for life. I like her last name mucho. We do the hard work. Si. Boy, you sure do! That's why YOUR country is such a pathetic shit hole. The laughingstock of the planet. Bunch of third world losers. You work soooooo hard....running to the welfare office.
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Mary
Elyria, OH
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Junior wrote: <quoted text> Spaniards were white Europeans, not Mexicans. Try again. And messycans today are a mixture of both...mongrels.
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Mary
Elyria, OH
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Junior wrote: <quoted text> I speak for all Native Americans with compassion,(ya know, like the ones that helped your ancestors when they washed ashore nearly dead at Plymouth rock, and, whom you repaid by slaughtering them and robbing their resources), kindness, and empathy. I don't speak for racist, inhumane wastes of skin such as yourself. Have a good day, in any case. Yes, we know. ALLLL of our history is a big lie told by White Europeans...except the parts you like. Idiot.
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Storm Warning
De Forest, WI
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I dont think so, I think you embrace Marxist ideology, and not Tribal customs , I think you and your brown buddies are trashing the Native Americans that live in Southern Mexico, If you were a man and a warrior you would be demanding that Mexico give independence to the Native People right now. You would be in the forefront of those demanding the cessation of the hordes of invaders being brought here to replace, and subjugate your people. You sek the destruction of not only your own people, but of the other races as well in some lumped morass like in India. the heritage ofg the Native people was almost wiped out and you would help those monsters deliver the final blow.
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Since: Feb 09
Fort Huachuca, AZ
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Junior wrote: <quoted text> Spaniards were white Europeans, not Mexicans. Try again. <sigh> Fine, continue to ignore unsatisfactory history.
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Since: Feb 09
Fort Huachuca, AZ
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Junior wrote: <quoted text> Spaniards were white Europeans, not Mexicans. Try again. I googled "bounty native americans", lots of info. Here is a portion:Ironically, the Mexican peoples finally received relief from the Apache and Comanche raids when the U.S. declared war on Mexico; the U.S. soldiers spent their spare time chasing and hunting the natives. However, without the protection of Kirker and the other Anglos, Chihuahua was again besieged and in 1847 raised the price of scalps to $200. After the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, most of the Mexican states revived their scalping bounties again in preparation for more raids (there is little mention of the discontinuation of these bounties- I would speculate though that after the immediate threat was gone they were repealed until the attacks resumed). In 1849, Chihuahua's "Ley Quinto," which would remain on the books until 1886, passed setting a price of $150 for live women and children,$200 for the scalps of warriors, and $250 for live warriors. Most professionals though felt that the extra $50 did not justify the increased risk and so traded in "receipts" only. Durango passed similar laws the same year, and in 1850 Sonora set the price at $150 for warriors and $100 for women and children under fourteen. By mid-1850 Chihuahua and Sonora had included the Seri Indians on their hit lists too. The details of the scalp bounty laws reveal that this wretched business was indeed a business with its own self-policing practices. States, to prevent fraud, defined "scalps" to include one or both ears or the crown (a fresh scalp could be stretched before it was dried and cut into up to a dozen "scalps"). Regulatory committees were also established to examine scalps, but these were often bought off so that the scalps of children were purchased as adults, etc.
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Since: Feb 09
Fort Huachuca, AZ
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Quirky wrote: <quoted text> There are a lot of Mexicans who claim to be Native to futher their cause. This may be the case here Justagi??? It is, but on an individual basis. Poor Junior is still foghting the war in his head, seen it before. "We kicked Custer's ass..." is pretty common, but no more so than some pathetic fan shouting, "We're number one!" for his favorite basketball team.
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Junior
Fairfield, CT
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Mary wrote: <quoted text> Oh puhleeze...get over yourself. Native Americans aren't so "native". They came from somewhere else too, moron. BTW, when Europeans first came to this nation, there WERE no immigration laws, so how do you figure, in your infinite wisdom, that they broke laws that did NOT exist? Idiot. Too much firewater? You act like Indians just sat around smoking peyote and singing Kum Bye Ya all day. You treated your women like SHIT, you fought each OTHER all the time, you took slaves, murdered your enemies. You have good and bad in your "culture" just like anyone else, so sit down and shut your pie hole, you drunk. 1. I never claimed Europeans broke immigration laws. 2. Stop getting your history lessons from Zane Grey novels.
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Junior
Fairfield, CT
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Mary wrote: <quoted text> Yes, we know. ALLLL of our history is a big lie told by White Europeans...except the parts you like. Idiot. You're are a prime of what's repulsive about most whites.
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Junior
Fairfield, CT
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justagi wrote: <quoted text>It is, but on an individual basis. Poor Junior is still foghting the war in his head, seen it before. "We kicked Custer's ass..." is pretty common, but no more so than some pathetic fan shouting, "We're number one!" for his favorite basketball team. Custer? Basketball? WTF? I thought we were discussing illegal immigration.
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Junior
Fairfield, CT
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Ah, the ever ubiquitous white expert on Native American heard from. Never mind the fact that he's never met one, nor listened to a NA. I've traveled and lived in Mexico and the ruling class there are white people (no surprise) and they are doing everything you speak of. That is precisely why the Mestizo are escaping north with their families and I, for one, welcome them. The country is being destroyed from within by whites and from without (by white American thirst for illegal drugs and exportation of weapons). BTW: If I watch the Marx brothers movies, am I Marxist. Bwaaa haa ha. . . Storm Warning wrote: I dont think so, I think you embrace Marxist ideology, and not Tribal customs , I think you and your brown buddies are trashing the Native Americans that live in Southern Mexico, If you were a man and a warrior you would be demanding that Mexico give independence to the Native People right now. You would be in the forefront of those demanding the cessation of the hordes of invaders being brought here to replace, and subjugate your people. You sek the destruction of not only your own people, but of the other races as well in some lumped morass like in India. the heritage ofg the Native people was almost wiped out and you would help those monsters deliver the final blow.
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Junior
Fairfield, CT
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And pray tell, who brought the "art" of taking trophies (like scalps, genitalia, ears, etc) from dead bodies to this continent? Surprise, surprise, surprise, it was white Europeans. You can be proud of your ancestors. . . justagi wrote: <quoted text>I googled "bounty native americans", lots of info. Here is a portion:Ironically, the Mexican peoples finally received relief from the Apache and Comanche raids when the U.S. declared war on Mexico; the U.S. soldiers spent their spare time chasing and hunting the natives. However, without the protection of Kirker and the other Anglos, Chihuahua was again besieged and in 1847 raised the price of scalps to $200. After the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, most of the Mexican states revived their scalping bounties again in preparation for more raids (there is little mention of the discontinuation of these bounties- I would speculate though that after the immediate threat was gone they were repealed until the attacks resumed). In 1849, Chihuahua's "Ley Quinto," which would remain on the books until 1886, passed setting a price of $150 for live women and children,$200 for the scalps of warriors, and $250 for live warriors. Most professionals though felt that the extra $50 did not justify the increased risk and so traded in "receipts" only. Durango passed similar laws the same year, and in 1850 Sonora set the price at $150 for warriors and $100 for women and children under fourteen. By mid-1850 Chihuahua and Sonora had included the Seri Indians on their hit lists too. The details of the scalp bounty laws reveal that this wretched business was indeed a business with its own self-policing practices. States, to prevent fraud, defined "scalps" to include one or both ears or the crown (a fresh scalp could be stretched before it was dried and cut into up to a dozen "scalps"). Regulatory committees were also established to examine scalps, but these were often bought off so that the scalps of children were purchased as adults, etc.
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A military approach would be a perfect solution to the border problem depending on how it was utilized
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Bovine Ordure wrote: A military approach would be a perfect solution to the border problem depending on how it was utilized Finally someone that is on subject again. How to utilize it? First enforce our immigration laws that are on the books already. Do what the US Constitution says, and protects the United States from invasion. Use all of them many millions of confiscated drug money to fortify our borders completely. Not a few miles here, and a few miles there. The whole border. They have confiscated way more money than it would ever take to build on heck of a good border fence, with gaurd towers along it manned by our militay, with orders to shoot anybody trying to cross the border illegally. Then the invasion of our country would stop. Then all we have to do is round up all of the ones that are here now, plus their anchor babies and give them a one way bus ride to the mexican border, or send them to the country they came from. All illegal alien invaders gone, No more coming in that would be a very good job.
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Mine the border
Secaucus, NJ
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Bovine Ordure wrote: A military approach would be a perfect solution to the border problem depending on how it was utilized Two words!!! LAND MINES!!!
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Since: Sep 09
Orange Park, FL
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Speeders Kill Kids wrote: Mexico is our enemy not iraq or afg. Bring the troops home and put them on the border. I'm thinking machine guns,choppers,and mine fields with warning signs. If you cross the boarder "You're Dead". It's going to take fear to stop the massive crossings. Talking ain't getting it done. Get it out of politicians hands and turn it over to American citizens,and we'll get it fixed permanently. Liberal Politicians are looking for liberal voters from South of the border, and citizens could care less about those votes, unless they're liberals.
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Since: Sep 09
Orange Park, FL
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Mine the border wrote: <quoted text>Two words!!! LAND MINES!!! Great idea, and maybe even ad some other goodies.
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Since: Sep 09
Orange Park, FL
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hunter1963 wrote: <quoted text> Finally someone that is on subject again. How to utilize it? First enforce our immigration laws that are on the books already. Do what the US Constitution says, and protects the United States from invasion. Use all of them many millions of confiscated drug money to fortify our borders completely. Not a few miles here, and a few miles there. The whole border. They have confiscated way more money than it would ever take to build on heck of a good border fence, with gaurd towers along it manned by our militay, with orders to shoot anybody trying to cross the border illegally. Then the invasion of our country would stop. Then all we have to do is round up all of the ones that are here now, plus their anchor babies and give them a one way bus ride to the mexican border, or send them to the country they came from. All illegal alien invaders gone, No more coming in that would be a very good job. I'm sick of hearing the BS that we have safeguards against illegals voting in the US. Today in the Jacksonville Florida Times Union newspaper records show an estimated 180.000 illegals voted in past elections in Florida alone, and we all know if that's an estimated number that could be at least doubled. The article continues to say there's also an estimated added 900.000 voters that may or may not be US citizens that voted in Florida alone. More bad news there's another 2600 in a separate group here legally on a temporary basis that are also voting. We all know they're voting Democrat that's a no brainer. The article goes on to say that no doubt they changed the true outcome for several elected political positions. Obama might be one of those political winners. Just think of the overwhelming illegal voters nation wide,especially in places like,Cal,NY,NJ,AZ,NM,Nev,and Midwest states. It's mind blowing.
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