Immigration bill blasted by L.A. council

I am not surprised at all.

Shame on Americans in Los Angeles for wanting the rules and laws on the book to be followed!

I can’t wait to follow the lead of other educated California residents that have moved to another state and taken their education, talents, income, and tax dollars to another state.

Football Coach wrote:

What planet are our councilmen from? Illegal aliens are the scourge of California!! Driving down wages, ruining our school system and health care system, flooding our criminal justice system and many are engaged in a proxy war to reclaim the American Southwest. Add the current effort by illegal alien gangs and their supporters to engage in a ethnic cleansing movement against our African - AMERICAN citizens. Waving foreign flags, turning our flag upside down? There is no loyalty to this country from the MAJORITY of these people!!! End the job magnet and they will go home, hold empolyers accountable, no need for round - ups. Supporters or illegal aliens argue that these are just proud people looking to support their families, BS, if these people were so proud they would be protesting on the streets of their countries, demanding change. How pathetic for a country like Mexico that your number one export is people!! Oh yeah, if there really is such a mass demand for illegal aliens and their labor, then what the hell are all these "Day laborer" centers? These people are unemployed!!! Jeez, and Hilary Clinton thinks that there is no need to make English our national language? Folks we do not need to become another Bosnia! Preserve our language, our culture, our country!!!

Same Planet as the American Citizen Voter who VOTED them into Elected Office and continue to Re-Elect them!!!!!

They are getting exactly what they deserve maybe other States can send their INVADING ILLEGAL ALIENS to CA and its Sanctuary Cities to the point there is only INVADING ILLEGAL ALIEN Mexicans in CA USED a Staging Area prior to DEPORTATION.

According to the article Shular is Republican. I am so tired of hearing from the racist bigots on this issue. In the 20's their was no such thing as an illegal alien. Come on give me a break. These people are not draining our government. All those saying so are opposed to federal and state assistance programs anyway. Republicans opposed the Social Security Act during Roosevelt's time.
Just telling the truth.

Maybe we could spay and neuter them as a condition to stay. Nah, I want them gone yesterday.

When I apply for a job, why do I need to prove that I'm NOT an illegal alien?

Isn't the burden of proof on the accusor?

Should we make employers double as document forgery experts?

The LA council did the right thing.

You American Citizens sure sound angry. Geeez, go take your blue pill (or is it pink?) already and chill. You may benefit from some anger management courses too. I say 'live and let live'.

Preppy wrote:

I am not surprised at all.
Shame on Americans in Los Angeles for wanting the rules and laws on the book to be followed!
I can’t wait to follow the lead of other educated California residents that have moved to another state and taken their education, talents, income, and tax dollars to another state.

Yeah, leave already. Good riddance!!!

"...federal measure that would require employers to verify their workers are in the country legally".

How STUPID is this Council? We are after the ILLEGAL ALIENS, the ones who have no right to be in this Country. The ones who are costing the taxpayers billions each and every year. If we can't use the e-Verify to get the ILLEGAL ALIENS, what would you suggest?, an honesty policy?

ILLEGAL ALIENS have caused more problems than anyone could have ever imagined and the cost is, well, just overwhelming to say the least. It's time for al 50 States to pass the Oklahoma or Arizona law and finally get these ILLEGAL ALIENS our of this Country and back in their own country where they belong. Until each and every ILLEGAL ALIEN is out of this Country, the problems are only going to get worse. Can you argue that?

Do you know why LA city leaders voted it down????? Because they are probably illegals themselves and dont want to be sent back
Bob G 2nd generation American

ddh wrote:

LA council denouncing it , you know it must be right on then !!!

I think you name should be "DUH"

You live in outside of CA and no idea how corrupt the LA Council is.

Illegal-aliens need to go home and business that hire them need to be punished.

Yes! This is fantastic. Keep these bills/laws comming. We American citizens are tired of our resources being sucked up, closed or pick slipped out of existence. The key word is "illegal." We have laws. Enforce them. Aggressively if necessary. Elected officals, wake up. We do not want the illegals here. We never did. Get them out now.

RoboTech wrote:

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Read my post above
It's Nancy Pelosi that's keeping the Save Act off the floor for a vote.
You know the Pelosi with an D after her name.

Comment:

EDINBURG, Texas (AP)— House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called a plan to build fencing along parts of the Mexico border a "terrible idea" that overlooks local communities.

Pelosi made the comments during her trip to the Rio Grande Valley for the annual Hispanic Engineering, Science & Technology Week conference at the University of Texas-Pan American.

"I have been against the fence, I thought it's a bad idea even when it was just a matter of discussion," said Pelosi, D-Calif. "These are communities where you have a border going through them, they are not communities where you have a fence splitting them."

Last year, President Bush signed the Secure Fence Act requiring the construction of fencing along the 2,000-mile border. The plans call for about 370 miles of fence and 200 miles of vehicle barriers, including concrete barriers, by the end of 2008.

Pelosi also touted legislation known as the DREAM Act that would make it easier for some illegal immigrants to receive higher education benefits. She spoke at a conference that drew more than 5,000 students for activities designed to inspire careers in science and technology.

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The DREAM Act would eliminate a federal provision that discourages states from providing illegal immigrants with lower in-state tuition rates. It also would allow permanent residency for illegal immigrants who entered the country as children and have been admitted to an institution of higher education.

"It just isn't fair," Pelosi said. "Those young people who came to America one way or another ... their opportunities are curtailed because of the situation. And it's not only harmful to them — it's harmful to the country."

Nancy Pelosi

Quote:


"When asked about the fact that over 80% of all Americans have
investments in mutual funds, retirement funds, 401K's, and the stock
market she replied "That may be true, but probably only 5% account for
90% of all these investment dollars. That's just more "trickle down"
economics claiming that if a corporation is successful that everyone
from the CEO to the floor sweeper benefit from higher wages and job
security which is ridiculous" "How much of this 'trickle down' ever get
to the unemployed and minorities in our county? None, and that's the tragedy
of these stock market highs."

"We democrats are going to address this issue after the election when
we take control of the congress. We will return to the 60% to 80% tax
rates on the rich and we will be able to take at least 30% of all
current lower Federal Income Tax tax payers off the roles and increase
government income substantially. We need to work toward the goal of
equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the
amount the rich can invest."

"When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied "We
need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities.
For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our
country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock
market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people
the standard of living they would like to have as "Americans". "

It is a human nature to put certain class of people at a disadvantage. A few hundred years ago black people were in this condition. Now it should be somebody else's turn. Here they are - "illegals".
Laws written by humans have many times proven wrong. Last century black people were not allowed to ride in the same buses as whites, now "illegals" are denied IDs to drive or travel.
Working is not a sin by any religion in the world.
Humans want to make it a crime, but human laws are not necessarily correct.

If the reconquista LA city government is against it, you know it will be effective. Time to repel this invastion.

Los Angels County:

10% of Los Angeles County residents are illegal aliens (the highest percentage of county residents in the country)

Illegal aliens cost the county greater than one billion dollars per year in taxpayer costs, not counting education.
Breakdown:
$444 million for welfare and food stamps
$400 million for health care
$220 million for correctional services, law enforcement and other public safety costs

New statistics from the Department of Public Social Services reveal that illegal aliens and their families in Los Angeles County collected over $37 million in welfare and food stamp allocations in November 2007, which is up $3 million dollars from September.

Children of illegal aliens receive 25% of welfare and food stamp money.

---Mike Antonovich, LA County Supervisor

L.A. needs Mexicans to control the blacks, heres a recent news story:

Racist Mexican gangs are indiscriminately targeting blacks who aren't even involved in gang culture, as part of an orchestrated ethnic cleansing program that is forcing black people to flee Los Angeles. The culprit of the carnage is the radical Neo-Nazi liberation theology known as La Raza, which calls for the extermination of all races in America besides Latinos, and is being bankrolled by some of the biggest Globalists in the U.S.

A story carried on the liberal website Alternet, charts an explosion in brutal murders of blacks by Hispanic street gangs in L.A. Far from being gang on gang violence, the Latinos are targeting innocent blacks in accordance with a concerted ethnic cleansing campaign that seeks to eradicate all blacks from Hispanic neighborhoods.

In one instance, 21-year-old Anthony Prudhomme was shot in the face with a .25-caliber semi-automatic while lying on a futon inside his apartment, slain by a Latino gang known as the Avenues as part of a racist terror campaign in which gang members earn "stripes" for each black person they kill.

Perhaps more than ever before, citizens must stand together to stop the betrayal of our country. This has nothing to do with race, religion or even political party affiliation. It has everything to do with the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens who have been allowed to invade this nation. This is about the RULE OF LAW.! Every bodies jobs are in peril, our flag, our Constitution. The globalist, open border, free traders have an agenda to promote the free movement of cheap labor, throughout the North American Continent. Europe has been a grand example of what we have in store for us. Where unfettered immigration of poor countries workers have undermined the indigenous people.

A good example is California.
"Illegal immigration continues to have a devastating impact Los Angeles County taxpayers," Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich said. "With $220 million for public safety,$400 million for health care, and $420 million in welfare allocations, the total cost for illegal immigrants to county taxpayers far exceeds $1 billion a year - not including the millions of dollars for education."
Assemblywoman Mimi Walters, a Republican from Oceanside, said illegal immigrants cost California taxpayers an estimated $9 billion each year.
We can stop the travesty of our laws, if only the majority of Democrats would co-sign the SAVE ACT. With only 18 more votes to go, we could bring this enforcement only bill to a vote. However, the Democrats want to attaches an addendum to the bill. It would give the 12 to 20 million foreign nationals occupying our nation, an easy ride to legality. This is wrong when millions wait for years patiently, to get THE PEOPLES permission to get a entry visa.
The SAVE ACT is a by-partisan law is awaiting just 18 signers, to bring this enforcement only to a House vote. The SAVE ACT will supersede any state laws, in its magnitude. It will go after the real culprits who are the predator employers. It is enforcement by Attrition or Self-Deportation. Cannot get work, then they will leave of their own accord.If you are one of the citizens fed up with subsiding the poor, uneducated from around the world. When the new personage steps into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, then we will be seeing the 12 to 20 million getting a path to citizenship. Nobody should have a right to legalization without going home and being processed like all immigrants.
YOU! And only YOU, can stop this travesty of our Immigration laws?
Tell your representatives to co-author THE SAVE ACT?
Congress is currently on recess through March 31st, so your representative will likely be in the home constituency and available to meet with its citizens.
FREE FAXES FOUND HERE. Keep calling your Congressmen today, toll free numbers include 18778516437 and 18662200044, or call toll 12022243121 AND REGISTER YOUR OUTRAGE at ongoing efforts to keep our country from enforcing its immigration laws!

tyurtuy wrote:

It's just another anti-people measure by the Republicans. They try and put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day, it's about ethnic/cultural elitism. Why otherwise is it so hard for them to acknowledge any positive thing the illegal immigrants contribute with. For all the hard work they've done (for decades), they're still referred to as unwelcome invaders. That's not about money.

Wrong Open Border guy!
This is about American citizens being first in line as this is OUR COUNTRY.
Illegal aliens are robbing the taxpayer blind as is the big Corporations that want them here. The Military Industrial Complex!
They suck!
Illegal aliens are costing us BILLIONS! This could be helping American citizens.
Also funny how you totally ignore all the CRIME illegal aliens commit. Including their criminal gang power.
Try helping illegal aliens in Mexico and see how you are treated! DEPORTATION!
Get everyone of these illegal aliens outta the U.S.
Get rid of the open border politicians.

Immigrants ,especially hispanics, come here to get a better life.I dont understand why people would oppose to someones happines.For example, young kids have been brought here sience they were small by theyre parent's.Now that they want a career, they simply cant because they are a reason why the US is loosing money.It has been said that immigrants cost the state $19 million. US also losses $7.7 million on ueducation for undocumented students.But whta they dont say, is that mostly all the students will become something great in the US.Everybody has dreams, nothing should stop them from reaching them.There is a a bill called BILL H.R. 4088.It says that people need verifacation in a job.Poeple desrve to live a good life, it doesnt matter what race,or skin color you are.Hispanic parents want the best for the kids,like american citizen's do for theyre's.I know for a fact that if they were in the same postion as illegal immagrants are on, they would do the same thing.Parents simply want the best there could be to keep thyere family together.Instead of the Government worring about immigrants who obioulsy make the US a better place, they should worry about the way they handle this state.The US has been loosing alot of money. and obiously the only asnwer they have is blaming the immigrant.But this is the FACT, they are not immigrants but human beings.They dont deserve to be treated this way.If this is how the world really would be than we would be all immigrants.It doesnt matter if we all have our own place we should live in, we just want a better life.This is an act that doesnt have real reasons.They are trying to blame all the problems to "immigrants", who probably want something better than they would.
TREAT IMMIGRANTS WITH DIGNITY!!
Iowa religious leaders tried to send a message to state lawmakers Wednesday that "all God's children should be treated with dignity and respect" - including illegal immigrants.
"The current debate about illegal immigration in Iowa needs an infusion of the pope's message about love," said Monsignor Stephen Orr, speaking on behalf of the bishops of Iowa and the Iowa Catholic Conference. "The love of God does not stop at national boundaries. Immigrants crossing into the U.S. are in the need of love of neighbor that was commanded by Jesus."

"Let them work"