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#27
May 8, 2008
 
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Now we know why we got so many guns in Chicago. He must have been a gun trader and not a commodities trader. Then you wonder where gangbangers get their guns. Lake Forest-Rich-White- They commit crimes too.
Thank you!!!!! If he sell guns to gang bangers, he's just as guilty as the person pulling the trigger..
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#28
May 8, 2008
 
When was the last time the ATF raided a West or South side Gang stronghold? Not lately that is for sure, and when 40 people are shot in one weekend, it makes me wonder how many have been shot in Lake Forest in a total Century?

You're telling me Uzi's, Ak's, AR's arent stockpiled at some of these 140+ Chicago Street Gangs quarters? Give me a break---this was a nice show and tell grandstand for a bunch of agencies to say "hey, we're doing something about the violence too"...yeah but you got the wrong town and the wrong guy.

Local Yokel Police could have handled this by detaining him outside of his home and than going in with a search warrant, but instead we get a bunch of agenices showing off and the news media there too.

Wrong priority---the guns that are killing are in Chicago,not Lake Forest. If they make a big bust in the coming weeks in Chicago than I'll be satisfied these agencies are in fact working both ends of the gun problem, if not, they're just going after easy pickings so they can fill out a report for the month.
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#29
May 8, 2008
 
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Come on people - do the math. You really think he sold enough guns illegally to be a millionaire? He was just a rich guy with a personal gun collection. That reminds me, I better renew my FOID card.
If those 50 cal guns are fully auto, the answer to your question will be YES...
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#31
May 8, 2008
 
Why Was ATF there This Is an IL Law. The man has no convictions. ATF may be breaking the fedral laws.
This is just one of the resons we need to get ride of the ATF.
O by the way 42 states do not consider this a crime.
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#32
May 8, 2008
 
Normal wrote:
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racially..
People collect things...DA
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#33
May 8, 2008
 
i knew those North Shore rich people couldn't ALL be millionaires by making an honest living....
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#34
May 8, 2008
 
All that money, and he couldn't afford to move to Indiana or Wisconsin? Dummy.

Well, at least they got all those evil guns off the street. Probably have 5-10 fewer murders in Chicago this weekend, right?
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#35
May 8, 2008
 
>>>>>
When was the last time the ATF raided a West or South side Gang stronghold? Not lately that is for sure, and when 40 people are shot in one weekend, it makes me wonder how many have been shot in Lake Forest in a total Century?
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Are you INSANE? Those people shoot back!
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#37
May 8, 2008
 
Just shows...happens in every neighborhood.
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#38
May 8, 2008
 
Dear Joe Blow,

Stevens was also accused of hitting his teanage son and daughter in the same incident. Now maybe all three are lying or maybe Stevens is a rich pig with a hugh arsenal who likes to push people around. But someone in the know was afraid enough of him to rat him out.
Maybe the cops should have just sent him to the Deerpath Inn with all the other wife beaters!
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May 8, 2008
 

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Too bad the buy wasn't a Chicago Police Officer, then the illegal guns would have magically turned into "an administrative mistake". A chicago police officer kills two and nothing, but, this story is a headline. Here is my headline:

Cops Protect Cop Who Murders Two
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-...

A very sad story.
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#40
May 8, 2008
 
B K Ray wrote:
well he did not seem to be effected by gun laws.
On the contrary, it seems as if the law has worked here perfectly -- yet another violent offender who was stock-piling guns taken off the street.

What's not to like?
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May 8, 2008
 
Normal wrote:
<quoted text> Tank Johnson' a thug, etc.
Say it to his face.
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#42
May 8, 2008
 
God Folks like you are bound to F___ This great country up GUNS are not the reason for the killing in Chicago IT'S THE PARENTS.
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#43
May 8, 2008
 
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What did you say when they raided Tank Johnson's house? Did you support him?? I remeber people referring to him as a thug, etc. How is this guy any different? skin color? Plus he has MORE guns and rounds..
Actually, I felt a bit sorry for Tank, but not only a little:

- Tank was on probation for carrying a weapon in his car.

- There were numerous reports of gunfire at his home, in his back yard.

- There were several loaded rifles in plain view, with a young child present.

- He did not have a POID card. It is a joke to get, as long as you don't have a record. He was foolish not to have one.

So, I put both of these guys in the same category. They earned their fate.

Now, if this were in Chicago, and they were busted for not following the draconian mine field Chicago registration rules, I might give them a break.
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#44
May 8, 2008
 
Bob Disappointed

GOOD BY FREEDOM & WELCOME SLAVERY!
Are we as a nation moving closer to FREEDOM? Or closer to SLAVERY? If we drew a scale with total freedom on the right end and total slavery on the left end I would say we just moved very far towards the left.
What if one day GOLF CLUBS ARE OUTLAWED because they also can be misused? What if golf enthusiasts will start sharing the fate with gun enthusiasts?
If they keep this up we’re all eventually going to one day wake up as SLAVES.
The same people participated in this shameful act of gun confiscation one day are going to notice that their children and grandchildren are slaves because of their parent’s and grandparent’s STUPIDITY.
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May 8, 2008
 
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This is dumb. Who would have so many guns if they wouldn't want to use them sometime. Stop generalizing racially..
some people collect stamps, some coins,some knives, others women! Why not collect guns? There is a lot of money made trading guns, Especially old guns. And besides,he has every right to own as many guns as he wants according to the copnstitution!!!.......ED ANGEL
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#46
May 8, 2008
 
They are his guns, if he bought them while he had a FOID card then they should not be illegal. Most states do not require FOID cards. I bet you none of his guns ever harm a single hair on any living body.
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#47
May 8, 2008
 
WE The People wrote:
God Folks like you are bound to F___ This great country up GUNS are not the reason for the killing in Chicago IT'S THE PARENTS.
Why the parents?.........ED ANGEL
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#48
May 8, 2008
 
maybe the ATF went after the WHITE guy in the suburbs because the new superintendent of the CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT has not invited the federal athorities to help them, which by the national attention the city of CHICAGO is getting maybe they need the help. lets put the FED. AGENTS on the streets of CHICAGO, since the CPD can't seem to ge a grip the situation.
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