Catholics must conform to church's teachings

The author uses her religion as a reason to support McCain/Palin. Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Joe Biden are Catholics in name only. I like that. It's true.

I also like the way she describes abortion as the ultimate form of child abuse.

I've never understood why people say they're Catholic but yet don't bother to follow the church's teachings. What's the point? You're either in or out.

I guess saying your "Catholic" is easier than saying you're part of the pro-abortion religion, or environmentalist religion. After all your religion is what you practice isn't it?

"The letter writer asks "What about child abuse?" The author just doesn't get it: Abortion is the ultimate child abuse."

I would much prefer to have been aborted by "a typical liberal," than to spend my childhood getting anally raped by the pope or any of his sick puppy Catholic leader pals.

You're the one who "doesn't get it."

PD

Paul Domeier wrote:

"The letter writer asks "What about child abuse?" The author just doesn't get it: Abortion is the ultimate child abuse."
I would much prefer to have been aborted by "a typical liberal," than to spend my childhood getting anally raped by the pope or any of his sick puppy Catholic leader pals.
You're the one who "doesn't get it."
PD

Maybe we could work on saving the ALIVE children being abused, unless you are really pro-fetus only...

Paul Domeier wrote:

"The letter writer asks "What about child abuse?" The author just doesn't get it: Abortion is the ultimate child abuse."
I would much prefer to have been aborted by "a typical liberal," than to spend my childhood getting anally raped by the pope or any of his sick puppy Catholic leader pals.
You're the one who "doesn't get it."
PD

I was an alter boy as a kid. Never had a problem like that. I have uncles that are priests, both good guys.

The author is right. She gets it. Abortion is the ultimate child abuse.

Why is it that Republicans are so sure that God is on their side? You were all sure that GW won the election, that some of us think he stole, because God wanted him to be the president. Now you think that God is cheering McCain on. I happen to believe that God is letting us stupid humans dig ourselves into the hole we, apparently, want to be in. God is not running America and God is not solely concerned with America. God created the entire earth and she may be focusing on where the people are suffering the most. Not on getting McCain elected.

Get over it. GW won the elections, both of them. Geez, you're still stewing about that? Sick...get help.

The same God that is letting you stupid humans dig yourselves into the hole you, apparently, want to be in is the same God some people are praying to to get McCain/Palin elected.

FYI - God isn't a she. God is a Dodger fan however.

Maximus Vacavillius wrote:

The author uses her religion as a reason to support McCain/Palin. Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Joe Biden are Catholics in name only. I like that. It's true.
I also like the way she describes abortion as the ultimate form of child abuse.
I've never understood why people say they're Catholic but yet don't bother to follow the church's teachings. What's the point? You're either in or out.
I guess saying your "Catholic" is easier than saying you're part of the pro-abortion religion, or environmentalist religion. After all your religion is what you practice isn't it?

There is more to being a Catholic than just your opinion on abortion or gay marriage, and whether or not you believe there should be laws restricting the rights of others.

Meet some priests. It is not an "either in or out" issue. Catholics are Christians. Some of us are just there for the spirituality and to celebrate the faith.

Catholic wrote:

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There is more to being a Catholic than just your opinion on abortion or gay marriage, and whether or not you believe there should be laws restricting the rights of others.
Meet some priests. It is not an "either in or out" issue. Catholics are Christians. Some of us are just there for the spirituality and to celebrate the faith.

You say: "Some of us are just there for the spirituality and to celebrate the faith."

I say: "Faith without works is dead!"

Catholic wrote:

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There is more to being a Catholic than just your opinion on abortion or gay marriage, and whether or not you believe there should be laws restricting the rights of others.
Meet some priests. It is not an "either in or out" issue. Catholics are Christians. Some of us are just there for the spirituality and to celebrate the faith.

If you are there just for the spirituality then you are no catholic. You are merely an individual attending the catholic church. There is a difference. There is a collosal difference.

Catholic wrote:

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There is more to being a Catholic than just your opinion on abortion or gay marriage, and whether or not you believe there should be laws restricting the rights of others.
Meet some priests. It is not an "either in or out" issue. Catholics are Christians. Some of us are just there for the spirituality and to celebrate the faith.

Spirituality and to celebrate the faith, interesting. What faith is that again?

Huh wrote:

Why is it that Republicans are so sure that God is on their side?

I'm not so sure about the Republicans. One thing that I'm becoming more convinced as I read of the Democrats is that they worship the DNC. Of course there will be some that will come forward to disagree. But, for the most part they, dispite their disagreements, will pull together for a common cause. A wonderful display of unity, but strangly misguided. "Can to walk together lest they be agreed?" So either their differences are superficial or they truly are agreed and the rest is for show.

Wouldn't it be great if our bond of union was the Constitution of the United States of America; notice the words "United States." What was their bond of union, the DNC, the RNC? No, no it was the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence. They didn't have radio and TV to keep us divided. "United we stand, divided we FALL."

As for the Catholic government they do interfer in the affairs of the U.S. This has been their history for the last 1000 years. Of course they claim they don't but they do. She writes to her members and tells them that they can vote their conscience and according to their morals, but then the church defines the morals which control the conscience. Call me a liar if you will, but I have a hard copy letter from the churches leadership that states just that. Know this, the Catholic church/government has it's own agenda for this country and their members all work to affect this. Don't get me wrong, I have many catholic friends, in fact my best friend is catholic, so I know a little of what I speak. None the less "As the catholic vote goes, so goes the election"

President Bush said, I need $750,000,000,000.00 plus.

Obama said, "Here ya go buddy!"
McCain said, "Here ya go buddy!"
The majority of the people said, "No way ya crook!"

Most D's and R's agreed once they got their cut!

Who pay's for it? You and I.
Who gets the blame? The poor home owner who lost his job and could no longer make the payments.

What caused are jobs to leave the country? Many things, but most notibly NATT/GAFTA.

Jobs leaving and high fuel costs have caused this, so who do you believe?

I say fire everyone of the incumbants and vote independent and People make our own historic election.

Good luck.

The fact is someone is going to be president. I don't like any of them so I'm just going have to hold my nose and vote. I HAVE to vote because I want to be able to complain about the outcome.

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Dennis, are you nuts? Putting aside nasty, bigoted Proposition 8, and half-witted Sarah Pallin, the GOP has put this country in this mess in a war of attrition in Iraq and a collapsed economy. Where is your mighty old man on a throne up in the sky? Why is he not helping us? Could it be -- that he doesn't exist and that the catholic church -- and every other church -- is a big scam?

Paul WV wrote:

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You say: "Some of us are just there for the spirituality and to celebrate the faith."
I say: "Faith without works is dead!"

Good works are crucial to being a good Christian. That would be part of my definition of celebrating the Faith.

Maximus Vacavillius wrote:

<quoted text>Spirituality and to celebrate the faith, interesting. What faith is that again?

Faith in Christ.

"They will know we are Christians by our Love."

Robert C wrote:

Dennis, are you nuts? Putting aside nasty, bigoted Proposition 8, and half-witted Sarah Pallin, the GOP has put this country in this mess in a war of attrition in Iraq and a collapsed economy. Where is your mighty old man on a throne up in the sky? Why is he not helping us? Could it be -- that he doesn't exist and that the catholic church -- and every other church -- is a big scam?

God definitely exists. I know because it says so in the Bible and God wrote the Bible.

Catholic wrote:

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Faith in Christ.
"They will know we are Christians by our Love."

That's a great song, it's right up there with Cumbia. Now we just need a camp fire.

Robert C wrote:

Dennis, are you nuts? Putting aside nasty, bigoted Proposition 8, and half-witted Sarah Pallin, the GOP has put this country in this mess in a war of attrition in Iraq and a collapsed economy. Where is your mighty old man on a throne up in the sky? Why is he not helping us? Could it be -- that he doesn't exist and that the catholic church -- and every other church -- is a big scam?

America is the cause of it's own troubles, not God.
And furthermore, who are you to tell God what He 'should' be doing???

MiddleWay wrote:

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Maybe we could work on saving the ALIVE children being abused, unless you are really pro-fetus only...

Thank you. There is research showing that the states with the most anti-abortion laws also had the leasat provisions for helping mothers, babies and children who needed help with food, health care, etc. These probably were mostly fundamentalist protestant Southern states. If a Catholic is pro-life in all aspects - anti-death panalty, against all unjustified wars, including several rec4ent uS wars, anti-child abuse of all sorts, in favor of food programs for women and babies and children, and health programs, also, an in favor of education for girls, and safe and effective birth control, and rational age-appropriate sex education, and DNA testing of convicted criminals who are in jail because the DNA testing process was not accurate when they were convicted, and also opposed to sport hunting, and to abuse of animals - then I I like those Catholics, and othes, who are so totally prolife. So many Catholics - and others - are only pro-life in the sense of being anti-abortion. A wise pro-life person would favor adoption reform, and monitoring of adoptive parents and foster parents, and fund-raising for babies born with Downs Syndrome and other expensive illnesses. So much would be better if both sides were totally pro-life! Of course, not at the expense of the life and/or health of the mother, or in cases or rape or incest, if it would be a traumatic experience fro the female victim. How many Catholics even know that this pope was the head of the Inquisition (it may not still be called exactly that - but it is the heir to that horrid chapter in history) and a persecutor of Catholic priests who actively side with the poor, and that he wore a Nazi uniform - served in German military - when young. Any American who salutes and obeys an German former-Nazi-upholding person as Pope is not a good American. Those Catholics are the ones who should not vote, for they are loyal to a foreign state - The Vatican - and not the US.!