Bush could weaken Endangered Species Act

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Eron wrote:

Remeber back in the 80s when they put the spotted owl on the endagered species list? Environmentalists swore up and down that little sucker couldn't survive anywhere but the forests of the Pacific Northwest. So... 80,000 loggers and their families were out on the street overnight. Lo and behold, they acutally found that little owl up in the mountains of New Mexico.
Not really endangered were they.

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Phester O Boyle wrote:

Oh good GOD...Just something more for the LIBs to whine about..
I'm getting sick of the mewling bastads.

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Eron wrote:

Remeber back in the 80s when they put the spotted owl on the endagered species list? Environmentalists swore up and down that little sucker couldn't survive anywhere but the forests of the Pacific Northwest. So... 80,000 loggers and their families were out on the street overnight. Lo and behold, they acutally found that little owl up in the mountains of New Mexico.
Not really endangered were they.

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left of Limbaugh wrote:

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More people are employed and more money is generated from tourism than from logging.
Logging can continue on a sustainable level without disturbing the tourist business or the 10 to 15% of old growth forest that are still untouched and should remain so forever.

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left of Limbaugh wrote:

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From Science Daily,
Although the extinction of various species is a natural phenomenon, the rate of extinction occurring in today's world is exceptional -- as many as 100 to1,000 times greater than normal, Dr. Donald A. Levin said in the January-February issue of American Scientist magazine. The co-author is Levin's son, Phillip S. Levin, a National Marine Fisheries Service biologist who is an expert on the demography of fish, especially salmon.
Levin's column noted that on average, a distinct species of plant or animal becomes extinct every 20 minutes. Donald Levin, who works in the section of integrative biology in the College of Natural Sciences, said research shows the rate of current loss is highly unusual -- clearly qualifying the present period as one of the six great periods of mass extinction in the history of Earth.
"The numbers are grim," he said. "Some 2,000 species of Pacific Island birds (about 15 percent of the world total) have gone extinct since human colonization. Roughly 20 of the 297 known mussel and clam species and 40 of about 950 fishes have perished in North America in the last century. The globe has experienced similar waves of destruction just five times in the past."
We are living in the greatest age of extinctions in millions of years.
Do you think that man has a right to permanently remove entire species from the face of the earth?

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MSO4 wrote:

<quoted text>More hogwash. With a liberal it is always the same, doomsday and oblivion. Just being around a liberal is depressing and hazardous to your health. Just try and get one to say something good about this country, there face will twist with agony.

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Anonymous Clock wrote:

This isn't a republican-democrat thing. This is just a poor decision on Bush's part, it doesn't say anything about the party he is in.
Just for the record, I'm a democrat.

sailor310 wrote:

Sooooooo... you take a logger who supported his family on 50-60 thousand a year, take a way his job, and tell him he can be employed doing what exactly? An eight dollar an hour job pumping gas at the new ourism gas station? and what about the 85-90 percent of old growth that burns through peoples homes, and ruins lives. Loggers took care of that problem. They may not have done it conservatively then, but nobody did anything conservatively then. There was no problem with the spotted owl, it was a not an endangerd species. The issue was sort of a lynch pin that started the liberal bedfest with the enviromentalists.
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Poor republicans wrote:

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What do you want? Republicans tend to give US depressions. Hoover and Bush. Come October when third quarter results are out, it will be clear that Hoover = Bush
Bush = McCain
Now have another scotch and shut up. All you want to do is put perfume on a pig and call it a poodle.

MSO4 wrote:

<quoted text>More hogwash. With a liberal it is always the same, doomsday and oblivion. Just being around a liberal is depressing and hazardous to your health. Just try and get one to say something good about this country, there face will twist with agony.

left of Limbaugh wrote:

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From Science Daily,
Although the extinction of various species is a natural phenomenon, the rate of extinction occurring in today's world is exceptional -- as many as 100 to1,000 times greater than normal, Dr. Donald A. Levin said in the January-February issue of American Scientist magazine. The co-author is Levin's son, Phillip S. Levin, a National Marine Fisheries Service biologist who is an expert on the demography of fish, especially salmon.

Levin's column noted that on average, a distinct species of plant or animal becomes extinct every 20 minutes. Donald Levin, who works in the section of integrative biology in the College of Natural Sciences, said research shows the rate of current loss is highly unusual -- clearly qualifying the present period as one of the six great periods of mass extinction in the history of Earth.
"The numbers are grim," he said. "Some 2,000 species of Pacific Island birds (about 15 percent of the world total) have gone extinct since human colonization. Roughly 20 of the 297 known mussel and clam species and 40 of about 950 fishes have perished in North America in the last century. The globe has experienced similar waves of destruction just five times in the past."
We are living in the greatest age of extinctions in millions of years.
Do you think that man has a right to permanently remove entire species from the face of the earth?

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Lance Winslow wrote:

<quoted text>This is just another in a long record of poor decisions on Bush's part. Remarkable how he circumvents the legeslative process by decreeing that laws be disregarded...a wierd perversion of democracy and contempt for constitutional government, as usual.
Just for the record, I think he deserves his day in court at The Hague.