Deal to return sect children to parents collapses

Dismayed wrote:

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You might understand their reasoning a little better if you ever saw a 2 year old lying on a morgue table, battered and bruised, and one person blaming the other and nobody can prove who killed that baby.
I'm not saying they're always right, but it's much better to err on the side of the child.

time wrote:

it is time to return them home

cayla99 wrote:

Many years ago I had a friend who fired her babysitter for driving around town with her 2 and 4 year old children in the trunk of her car. She fired the lady the day it happened when she was told by her 4 year old when she went to pick up the kids. Being on short notice, a friend of hers who was a stay at home mom offered to babysit the kids. Two weeks later, cps showed up at the door to take the children. The fired sitter had called and said the kids were being left at home alone. My friend blocked the door while her husband called the new sitter and her husband over to the apartment. When they got there, the CPS agent (who was new to this county) threatened to have them arrested for interference. That is when the new sitters husband spoke for the first time. He asked one question. "Do you know who I am". The agent replied she couldn't give a rip who he was. I guess she almost wet herself when he said, "I am the judge you will be taking this before in the morning. My wife is their sitter, I suggest you leave now."
That was the end of it, my friend is convinced until this day if she had a different sitter, she would have been put through hell without cause. The cps agent didn't care about the truth, only the allegation.

Dismayed wrote:

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You might understand their reasoning a little better if you ever saw a 2 year old lying on a morgue table, battered and bruised, and one person blaming the other and nobody can prove who killed that baby.
I'm not saying they're always right, but it's much better to err on the side of the child.

BlueNC wrote:

However, just across the border in mexiko, you will find both little boys & girls working in the brothels, especially in the tourist areas.

BelGazou wrote:

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Read more about the origins and practices of this cult. They were founded in the 1930's and were kicked out of the Mormon religion because of their sexual practices and twisted dogma. Basically, this group was founded by pedophiles to have their way with minors, the religion, or at least their own twisted version of it, was used mainly as a brainwashing tool for this purpose.
Young males are often unceremoniously kicked out of the sect, thus leaving the younger females at the mercy of the elder males. DNA testing has shown that the members of the sect are very inbred, going back several generations. Genetic disease and mental retardation are endemic in the sect. So in addition to the brainwashing, the members were prevented from leaving, especially the females who were forced to bear several children, thereby assuring that they would not try to flee. The mothers of the children did not think that the forced marriage and rape of minors was abuse because they thought that this was normal.
The sect supported itself largely through the cheap and coerced labor of it's trapped members. The fact that this situation was allowed to continue for 70 years may be one of the biggest tragedies in this case.

Phester O Boyle wrote:

As a card carrying liberal I demand that we stay out of bedrooms!
Only last week I demonstrated in front of the White House demanding that gheys should be allowed to marry each other and to be able to adminster stank bugles unfettered.
We need to keep our liberal agenda of personal freedoms alive at the forefront of America's bedrooms.
It's only the uptight neoCON old barn owl ladies that want to tell us what to do in our own bedrooms..
Down with that SHYT!! I Say DOWN with it!

BlackStarRanch wrote:

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....I agree.....there's nothing more dangerous than the Government trying to figure out what is "right".....I imagine they'll be WELL watched nowadays...

Barry Kitchkeesic-Wynn wrote:

I think that the "sect" should advice their legal represenative (lawyer) to invoke [the seventh tabernacle laws} these are the laws I am told that have protected religions from time of birth of our US Constitution rights.

water_nymph wrote:

<quoted text> You've been reading too much Ayn Rand.

BlueNC wrote:

However, just across the border in mexiko, you will find both little boys & girls working in the brothels, especially in the tourist areas.

Billy Hill wrote:

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You don't have to go across the border. You can find that in any city in the US, with the possible exception of Salt Lake City.
One out of four teenage girls has an STD and that number again are pregnant. We aren't in much of a place to preach to this cult.
Where is CPS?

Billy Hill wrote:

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You don't have to go across the border. You can find that in any city in the US, with the possible exception of Salt Lake City.
One out of four teenage girls has an STD and that number again are pregnant. We aren't in much of a place to preach to this cult.
Where is CPS?

Tony B wrote:

No one posting here seems overly knowledgable of the facts involved. There's a lot of emotion and little else. It might add to the understanding of what's going down to know that during the Clinton administration in DC a statute was passed which grants $10,000 (I believe that's the amount) to any state "child protection agency" each time they get a kid adopted by someone.

Tony B wrote:

No one posting here seems overly knowledgable of the facts involved. There's a lot of emotion and little else. It might add to the understanding of what's going down to know that during the Clinton administration in DC a statute was passed which grants $10,000 (I believe that's the amount) to any state "child protection agency" each time they get a kid adopted by someone. Now, in case you've forgotten how to reason, before a kid can be adopted by someone not its real parent, it has to be separated from its real parent and the real parents' rights destroyed. For all of you who see this as a great thing, take it from someone who grew up in an orphanage even though my mother was still alive (but destitute during the depression after my dad was killed on a WPA job), no matter the failings of your natural parents, you want to be with them, not some stranger. Since when does government have first rights on children rather than their natural parents? If they can take one child from its parents for "cause" they can take every child from its parents for "cause." Talk about insanity! Too many of you think only the memebers of the sect are off kilter. You'd better get back to government 101 unless you love your slavery chains.