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May 30, 2008

Deal to return sect children to parents collapses

Negotiations between Texas officials and a polygamist sect hit a snag Friday evening, delaying an agreement to return more than 400 children to their parents, NBC News reported.

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I feel for the kids

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I to feel for them. CPS should send the children back home. I belive their is no evidence to say in reality that the children were in danger. The state should never have removed them without that.
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I also feel for the kids and perhaps they should be with their mothers. But why can't the state enforce laws on marriage? Are they still going to let this sect practice polygamy and sex with underage girls? Good grief...there are men in prison doing long hard time for that.

Something's wrong...

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too bad wrote:
I feel for the kids
I concur.

At 65 years of age, I've learned that DCFS.... Department of Children and Family Services is more of a Liberal concept (Do it for the children) that allows dysfunctional bureaucrats to order parents how to raise their children at the risk of losing them than being an agent of well being for children and families. It is rarely ever about what is best for the children, but rather what best suits an agent's desire for control in any given situation. It is an avenue for small minded jealous people to force their values on others, yet few dare to challenge them.

DCFS makes religious zealots look like kindergarten class.

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Bama Yankee wrote:
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At 65 years of age, I've learned that DCFS.... Department of Children and Family Services is more of a Liberal concept (Do it for the children) that allows dysfunctional bureaucrats to order parents how to raise their children at the risk of losing them than being an agent of well being for children and families. It is rarely ever about what is best for the children, but rather what best suits an agent's desire for control in any given situation. It is an avenue for small minded jealous people to force their values on others, yet few dare to challenge them.
DCFS makes religious zealots look like kindergarten class.
You might understand their reasoning a little better if you ever saw a 2 year old lying on a morgue table, battered and bruised, and one person blaming the other and nobody can prove who killed that baby.

I'm not saying they're always right, but it's much better to err on the side of the child.

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Sounds like this judge, when the Supreme Court hears about this, is going to have this woman removed from her post.
I feel no sympathy for this judge, it seems that she is another one of those absolute IDIOTS who see 'sexual abuse' and go yelling and screaming, saying that the children should be removed from their parents homes, when THAT is usually what causes the problems.... that and the brainwashing masked as therapy that the children have.

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Just to let you know Christopher...you've been reported. You are disgusting.

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Dismayed wrote:
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You might understand their reasoning a little better if you ever saw a 2 year old lying on a morgue table, battered and bruised, and one person blaming the other and nobody can prove who killed that baby.
I'm not saying they're always right, but it's much better to err on the side of the child.
You know, I've heard all that crap before. Same crap from the gun control crowd. "Do it for the children."

When are you freaking do gooders going to get it through your heads that society doesn't want YOUR ideals imposed on the rest of us? What gives you the right to determine the course of our lives, the lives of our children when most of you can't manage your own lives?

By the way, I personally experienced more than 15 years of abuse and consider myself more than a little lucky to have lived through it and I still don't buy in to that crap you are spouting.

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Just to let you know Christopher...you've been reported. You are disgusting.
Thank you. I had to read that post three times to make sure I was comprehending it correctly.

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Yeah, and the 'something wrong' is that we have anyone in prison for that. Let us face facts: we are BORN with genitals, so we are supposed to be using our genitals and making love from birth or soon afterwards, and since children and adults don't have a 'forcefield' between their genitals, that is a pretty good indication that mother nature EXPECTS children and adults to be making love together.
If they REALLY want to protect children from forced sexual encounters, they should bring pedosexuality OUT INTO THE OPEN, legalize making love with children as long as you ask them for their permission first, and have the pedosexuals THEMSELVES help you point out the truly dangerous among them..... which wouldn't be many, because most of the men who forcibly rape and murder children are NOT PEDOSEXUALS. What are they, in reality? Heterosexual males who see a little girl, see her as a convenient 'fucktoy' because they haven't been getting any from their wife, girlfriend or female acquaintances, and rape the girl in order to sate their sexual impulses in a semi-insane or totally insane state, usually feeling EXTREMELY guilty about it afterward.
Or, they are pedosexuals who have been driven INSANE by lack of sexual gratification with someone who they are sexually attracted to and compatible with, and they rape the girls in order to get some sexual gratification. The problem is the laws there.
You know, browsing these forums, you come across some weirdos but you are one sick F***!
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another liberal "obama-friendly" judge letting our kids get screwed & not giving our children protection from the nambla/gay agenda!

obama goes as far as making it mandatory for ALL public school kindergardners to attend gay/nambla sex education classes!!!

obama is too d*mn liberal and far-far left for America! Gets used to it America - when this racist soros' boy gets in - we all get screwed - especially our innocent little children!!!!!
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Dismayed wrote:
I also feel for the kids and perhaps they should be with their mothers. But why can't the state enforce laws on marriage? Are they still going to let this sect practice polygamy and sex with underage girls? Good grief...there are men in prison doing long hard time for that.
Something's wrong...
Something's wrong...none of the men have been so much as charged with a crime.
Texans seem to have a great difficulty complying with the law as well as properly enforcing it. Thank God for appellate courts to set aside grave injustices. Judge Barbara Walther and CPS need legal council badly.

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Christopher wrote:
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Yeah, and the 'something wrong' is that we have anyone in prison for that. Let us face facts: we are BORN with genitals, so we are supposed to be using our genitals and making love from birth or soon afterwards, and since children and adults don't have a 'forcefield' between their genitals, that is a pretty good indication that mother nature EXPECTS children and adults to be making love together.
If they REALLY want to protect children from forced sexual encounters, they should bring pedosexuality OUT INTO THE OPEN, legalize making love with children as long as you ask them for their permission first, and have the pedosexuals THEMSELVES help you point out the truly dangerous among them..... which wouldn't be many, because most of the men who forcibly rape and murder children are NOT PEDOSEXUALS. What are they, in reality? Heterosexual males who see a little girl, see her as a convenient 'fucktoy' because they haven't been getting any from their wife, girlfriend or female acquaintances, and rape the girl in order to sate their sexual impulses in a semi-insane or totally insane state, usually feeling EXTREMELY guilty about it afterward.
Or, they are pedosexuals who have been driven INSANE by lack of sexual gratification with someone who they are sexually attracted to and compatible with, and they rape the girls in order to get some sexual gratification. The problem is the laws there.
WHAT????? Are you outta your ever lovin' mind? Grown men are not supposed to being having sex with children; and there is no excuse for it whatsoever. This has got to be one of the lamest and most insane things I've read on this site. Good grief man. Get some counseling.

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Just to let you know Christopher...you've been reported. You are disgusting.
I agree. That was totally disgusting and offensive.
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I agree. That was totally disgusting and offensive.
I agree one sick puppy. I have two little girls and no grown man is going to have a sexual relationship w/them as long as I can help it, and at what age should a child agree birth!!!! You need help.

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This is wrong!!! There is no need to separate those children from there mother's. This is exactly why McVeigh did what he did . The government is meddling again . If you have charges against the man arrest the man or women individually but they have no right doing what they are doing . It's worse than communism......damn right wing perverts just love to spend time in other people's bedrooms and highway rest stops......

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I thought polygamy was against the law. Maybe most of these children should be with their natural mothers and fathers, but not if they are in danger or being forced to have sex with adults; or are being forced into marriages while under age. I think CPS should be monitoring this group of people and keeping an eye for the welfare of the children. Just because nothing serious has happened to most of the children (the article stated only 5 had been involved in sexual relations), it doesn't mean something won't. These people are nut jobs who don't have any business having chidren in my opinion; and they are engdangering them emotionally. These kids will be adults someday and have to take their place outside the family unit. We'll see how many come out "well adjusted."

Children being with their natural parents is not ALWAYS the best choice, if the parents are dysfunctional themselves.

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What?? Those horny old 60 year old perverts have been waiting for weeks with boners for those cute 13 year old girls to come back home! This is just totally unfair.
Sick f*ck!!!
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Why should these children be taken back to a place where they are forced to marry older men with other wives. They get away with it b/c legally they only marry one the rest are just there. Who would willingly force there child to marry someone? If the mothers can not or will not stand up for their children than the children should be placed somewhere where they will be protected maybe with a family memeber not in this so called religion.

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Yeah, and the 'something wrong' is that we have anyone in prison for that. Let us face facts: we are BORN with genitals, so we are supposed to be using our genitals and making love from birth or soon afterwards, and since children and adults don't have a 'forcefield' between their genitals, that is a pretty good indication that mother nature EXPECTS children and adults to be making love together.
If they REALLY want to protect children from forced sexual encounters, they should bring pedosexuality OUT INTO THE OPEN, legalize making love with children as long as you ask them for their permission first, and have the pedosexuals THEMSELVES help you point out the truly dangerous among them..... which wouldn't be many, because most of the men who forcibly rape and murder children are NOT PEDOSEXUALS. What are they, in reality? Heterosexual males who see a little girl, see her as a convenient 'fucktoy' because they haven't been getting any from their wife, girlfriend or female acquaintances, and rape the girl in order to sate their sexual impulses in a semi-insane or totally insane state, usually feeling EXTREMELY guilty about it afterward.
Or, they are pedosexuals who have been driven INSANE by lack of sexual gratification with someone who they are sexually attracted to and compatible with, and they rape the girls in order to get some sexual gratification. The problem is the laws there.
Let me get this straight, you feel that it's natural for children & adults to have sex with each other, as long as the adult has the child's permission. Most three and four year olds can say yes and no, are they too young, or is it natural & safe for them to have sex with adults? You feel that the 'laws' are at fault & not the pedofiles. Just make it legal, and there won't be a problem, right?
You are so sick & perverted that you are beyond help or reason. How many little children have you 'made love' to? I can only pray to God to keep you from raping anymore innocent little children.
One of these days your going to 'make love' to a child & his/her mom or dad is going to put you down like a rabid dog.
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