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May 7, 2008

GOP leaders warn of election disaster

Shellshocked House Republicans got warnings from leaders past and present Tuesday: Your party’s message isn’t good enough to prevent disaster in November, and neither is the NRCC’s money.

The double shot of bad news had one veteran Republican House member worrying aloud that the party’s electoral woes — brought into sharp focus by Woody Jenkins’ loss to Don Cazayoux in Louisiana on Saturday — have the House Republican Conference splitting apart in “everybody for himself” mode.

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Money and Illegal alien illegal votes are of the printable problem. Republicans have gotten themselves on the unfortunate position of having a vast mobilized Population of aliens intend on getting rid o them in the interest of amenity.

The truth is this isn’t going to be an honest election. There really isn’t going to be much in the way of the serous opposition, money is the main reason, the other reason is the constant campaigning democrat and liberal organizations ranging from AARP, to moveon.org , to George Sorrows, have been spending and campaign sense 2004.
This is can be attributed the amount of hate they feel, but the bottom line is its unprecedented, and most importantly unopposed to carry it on this long and to this extent.

The bulk of their support however comes from the connection people make between gas prices and the president. A rather oddly self-destructive connection as neither has very much of anything to do with the other.
Back in 2003 and 2004 I predicted this rise in gas prices basically because it was obvious. Back in the early 1990’s insolently many other oil experts as well as some political (including the likes of Bush) looked at the same data also predicted this same rise in gas prices.
This data was very simple, our consumption was continuing to rise with our economy, while our refinery capacity and supply had been relatively fixed at a maximum by environmental laws instated in the late 1970’s and more sense.

Obviously eventually our excess capacity would run out, and when it did our gas prices would rise in at least proportion to the growth in our economy as production would not be able to increase to meet it.
It’s a very simple equation!
And there are very simple reasons behind it, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see it.

Because the U.S. had previously built up such a huge refinery capacity poor to the 1970’s, and because of technological innovations we were able to upgrade existing refinery capacity with out having it fall under current environmental laws, as well as the changes in the nature of our economy from industrial to largely services based economy. This didn’t begin to happen until the late 1990’s, and of course there was a recession in the early 2000’s but by about 2004 we had hit the practical limit.
In 2005 the golf coast was again hit by Hurricanes, and they took out large amounts of our refinery capacity, but this time we didn’t have any spare capacity with which to simple make up. So Supply of gasoline dropped and prices naturally spiked.

Eventually some of that refinery capacity was restored and prices settled a bit down but they will never return to what they were before simply because we don’t have the capacity to return it to that level, we cant produce the Gasoline supply necessary anymore!

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Had Congress actually did what Bush Was constantly urging them to do, in practically EVERY LAST STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, instead of condemning him as “in the pocket of the oil industry” We wouldn’t be in this mess now!

We would have more refineries, to pick up the slack, we would have more oil production to give us the buffer.

That’s what makes this whole situation so sad and hypocritical, the very cause of most of it, is the one thing the guy were cursieing did everything within his conversable power to warn us about and prevent!

And the 1 group benefiting from it is the very same group which caused the problem in the first place!

There is no justice in the world here only hypocrisy, it’s a tragedy. Yes thou the practical results of this tragedy will continue to be higher and higher gas prices. As these environmentalist your electing continue to keep doing what they been doing for 30 odd years to create this problem.(Yes that included McCain, who rose to the head of the republican party as he is the chief opposition to bush on this.)

I wish I could say economic justice was being served here, but everyone who actually did the research and was aware of this fact and like bush had been urging its resolution. Doesn’t deserve to be paying the prices we too are forced to pay for now.

But life isn’t fair.

Unforutnaly as I just pointed out, as a result of all the way this is playing out politically; there will not be a resolution to this problem. You have increased the power of the hand that got us here for its own reason, and guaranteed it the presidency, no matter who wins. Things are going to continue to get worse for the foreseeable future, and to be frank, the ideological interest that are pushing this are only getting more dug in and more strong.

We will continue to as we already are have been pay the price, for our collective choices.

And if you want to hate a man whom we can at least honestly say did everything within his own power to prevent this. Go ahead. It won’t make the price we pay go away, and it certainly won’t pave the way towards it ever being corrected.

But I’m not going to tell you what you can and cannot do with your own money, and time unlike some of you...
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The "holier-than-thou" moral majority right-wingers put themselves in this position by being hypocritical and getting the country in such a mess by supporting a costly war that was based on lies and by running up the largest deficit in history. Sad thing is, it doesn't matter who is elected, the problems will take years to fix.
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This guy should be in jail!

DNC Superdelegate Puts His Vote Up For Sale
Steven Ybarra Wants $20 Million For His Vote
SACRAMENTO, Calif.(CBS13) ― In this tight battle for the democratic nomination we've heard a lot about the candidates courting super-delegates.

But, one superdelegate is courting the candidates. He says he'll sell his vote for a price. A very high price:$20 million.

Sacramento superdelegate Steven Ybarra says that eight-figure price is peanuts for the presidency.

When asked whether it was right to offer what is clearly a quid pro quo?

"Yeah, absolutely. People do it all the time," answered Ybarra.

But, not like this. Not in public, and not for such big bucks.

It begs the question. Is he crazy?

"Nobody's said I'm crazy," said Ybarra.

Ybarra wants every cent of the $20 million to go toward registering and educating eligible Mexican-American voters, who he calls the key to the white house.

"And I keep asking the question of the DNC,'why won't you earmark money for these voters?' And their answer is,'oh, we can't do that' which is a lie," said Ybarra.

With the Democratic National Committee saying 'no,' Ybarra waits for a 'yes' from already cash-strapped Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

Would he accept less? How about $5 million?

"No,$5 million is nothing," said Ybarra.

It might be a moot point as neither campaign has come calling.

"No, I think most people right now are looking at this as some crazy guy in California because after all I'm from California," said Ybarra.

He thinks his own party is crazy for not aggressively pursuing the Mexican-American vote especially with such a large Mexican-American population in the southwest.

"We should kick John McCain's a** in his own hometown," said Ybarra.

This superdelegate thinks his vote would be the best 20 million a candidate could ever spend. After all he says, in 2004 John Kerry spent a billion dollars to lose.

(© MMVIII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

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Stand up for SOMETHING wrote:
This guy should be in jail!
No, he should be applauded for pointing out the flaws in the whole delegate system.

The fix is simplicity, not more patches.

A) National primaries for all parties. Popular vote wins.

B) Popular vote should carry the main election as well, and the delegate system should be suspended unless and until a "national crisis" demands its reinstatement.
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Monorprise wrote:
Had Congress actually did what Bush Was constantly urging them to do, in practically EVERY LAST STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, instead of condemning him as “in the pocket of the oil industry” We wouldn’t be in this mess now!
From Bush's rhetoric about raping ANWR as a universal solution, you would think that the cure for cancer would be to kill off all the caribou, and that some polar bear is hiding the secret of world peace under his ass.

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Blame you concerns on Bush. The last two terms of his admin is the only reason why a campaign that resonates around "Change" and "Hope" is possible.

Populations in the U.S. has not changed that drastically in the last 8 years to blame the shift of thinking on population attributes.

A Repub can ver likely win that next election, after this year's vote.

But Bush has made it very difficult for a Repub to win this year. And all those that supported Bush at every turn, and failed to acknowledge poor results are still failing to acknowledge Bush's impact.

They fail to acknowledge Bush's impact by trying to explain the public's shift towards "Change" by saying the public is changing.
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"PERMANENT REPUBLICAN MAJORITY"

Is all that needs to be said, they wanted to control everything, they did and here we are today!

Vote Democratic and save this country from the Greed and Sleaze that defines Republican Politics!

How can you vote for a party that does not believe in the Government you vote them into?

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The republicans made their bed. Now they can lie in it.

Cry me a river.
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the democrats will not let florida or michigan voters have their votes count - they could care less about them! But florida & michigan are fed up with dean and his socialist idiot boy "obama" rigging the results & paying off super delegates!

What's a few more million to soros & his geek boy "obama"!!!?!!!!!

They have already paid off billions to buy out super delegates - and in turn uncle soros will command obama to RAISE taxes to record highs!

“Impact is iminent, cover your ”

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Seems most missed the point. The 'disaster' is the fact that there isn't a candidate worth voting for. As to that oil thing mentioned, well it's called a monopoly. Not quite yet mind you, but remember fuel prices went up as smaller refineries were bought up by the big companies. Our gov't didn't stop them, but they broke up AT&T. who came back with a vengence and is almost the same as it was. Bottom line, no competition, charge what you want.
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What a bunch of nonsense! Obama's $$$ has come from small contributors start to finish, he has no major financiers such as Hill and McCain. FLA and MI knew wht they were doing before doing it, so did the Candidates.

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I'm late, has Repubs blamed their current standing on:
- Clinton
- Dems
- Liberals
- Muslims

yet?

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Ed Teach wrote:
Seems most missed the point. The 'disaster' is the fact that there isn't a candidate worth voting for. As to that oil thing mentioned, well it's called a monopoly. Not quite yet mind you, but remember fuel prices went up as smaller refineries were bought up by the big companies. Our gov't didn't stop them, but they broke up AT&T. who came back with a vengence and is almost the same as it was. Bottom line, no competition, charge what you want.
The diaster was Bush. And His 2nd term was worse.
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"...Ybarra wants every cent of the $20 million to go toward registering and educating eligible Mexican-American voters, who he calls the key to the white house.

"And I keep asking the question of the DNC,'why won't you earmark money for these voters?' And their answer is,'oh, we can't do that' which is a lie," said Ybarra...."

At least he's not asking for a bribe. It's just a publicity stunt to attract attention to his community's needs. I admire his chutzpah, if not his judgment.
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I'm late, has Repubs blamed their current standing on:
- Clinton
- Dems
- Liberals
- Muslims
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And Soros and Obama.

Responsibility is for little people, not the Permanent Republican Majority.

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I'm late, has Repubs blamed their current standing on:
- Clinton
- Dems
- Liberals
- Muslims
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Don't forget Jimmy Carter. He's one of the reasons Republicans have failed Americans over the last 8 years.

According to the GOP, Bush may not be so popular now, but in 50 years, we will realize he was the greatest President in US history.

I guess that's because those of us who know better will be dead by then and they will just keep repeating "Liberals did it" over and over and over until people accept it as fact. That's is SOP for the GOP. What a bunch of SOB's.

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the democrats will not let florida or michigan voters have their votes count - they could care less about them! But florida & michigan are fed up with dean and his socialist idiot boy "obama" rigging the results & paying off super delegates!
What's a few more million to soros & his geek boy "obama"!!!?!!!!!
They have already paid off billions to buy out super delegates - and in turn uncle soros will command obama to RAISE taxes to record highs!
After Bush's idiotic refunds, someone is going to have to make up for the short falls. Maybe Dickhead Cheney could give back some of the money he robbed the US and it's military of with his no bid contracts c/o Halliburton.

You are all alike. Selfish, self serving and soulless.

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From Bush's rhetoric about raping ANWR as a universal solution, you would think that the cure for cancer would be to kill off all the caribou, and that some polar bear is hiding the secret of world peace under his ass.
Believe it or not ANWR has oil, and among Bush's other rhetoric about Building more refinery, would enable us to refine that additional oil. The result is more supply and smaller gas prices.
If you want to call that Raping ANWR that’s your choice, although ill have you know that the local’s want it and most Alaskans are pissed off that their not allowed drilling more on the U.S. Government’s land. That is in fact the root case behind the Alaskan Independent Party, one of the only States with one, because of this issue.

You can’t impose your Controls and will upon others with out those others Getting irritated, such as the U.S. Government has upon most of Alaska, which we refused to sell to either the state or others, sense the End of the Homestead act.

As to polar bears and Carabobo, I don’t see their interest supplanting the interest of man, and even if they did, they are not at threat here.

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Monorprise wrote:
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Believe it or not ANWR has oil, and among Bush's other rhetoric about Building more refinery, would enable us to refine that additional oil. The result is more supply and smaller gas prices.
If you want to call that Raping ANWR that’s your choice, although ill have you know that the local’s want it and most Alaskans are pissed off that their not allowed drilling more on the U.S. Government’s land. That is in fact the root case behind the Alaskan Independent Party, one of the only States with one, because of this issue.
You can’t impose your Controls and will upon others with out those others Getting irritated, such as the U.S. Government has upon most of Alaska, which we refused to sell to either the state or others, sense the End of the Homestead act.
As to polar bears and Carabobo, I don’t see their interest supplanting the interest of man, and even if they did, they are not at threat here.
Most interesting. First let me say that as far as Caribu are concerned, they're quite tasty. Second I never ate Polar bear, just their cousins. Third, it will take at least 10 to 15 years for that oil to get to your local pump. I'm good with that, but what do we do in the mean time?
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