The 1.5% Presidency

Razors Edge wrote:

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So, is the U.S. a "free country" today? Hardly! Not compared to what it once was. Yet, very few Americans today challenge these Marxist institutions, and there are virtually no politicians calling for their repeal or even gradual phase-out. While the United States of America may still have more freedoms than most other countries, we have nonetheless lost many crucial liberties and have accepted the major socialist attacks on freedom and private property as normal parts of our way of life. The nation, whose founders included such individualists as Thomas Jefferson, George Mason, James Madison, John Adams and Patrick Henry, has gradually turned away from the principles of individual rights, limited constitutional government, private property, and free markets and instead we increasingly have embraced the failed ideas and nostrums of socialism and fascism. We should hang our heads in shame for having allowed this to happen.
....In some ways the Left has a head start over us on the pro-freedom Right. The enemies of American freedom do admittedly dominate the entertainment industry, television news media, and academia -- but we have the tremendous strategic advantage that reality (including man's nature) is on our side; so, unlike the socialists and "liberals" (welfare-state fascists), we are not in the position of having to advocate a system which constantly tries to "make water to go uphill" -- or force human beings into a rigid utopian staitjacket based on the whims of some clique of central planning bureaucrats. We know that individual freedom for peaceful people within a constitutional republic works in practice; our country's history demonstrates that. The piecemeal abandonment of those principles and institutions which once made America great has proved to be a a dead-end road to failure. That is why I tend to be a long-term optimist even though things often look pretty glum in the meantime. Just as Prohibition was eventually repealed, I feel encouraged that such key statist achievements as the income tax, government schools, fiat money/central banking (the Federal Reserve), "environmentalist" regulations, property forfeiture laws, and other Marxist planks and leftist institutions can be rolled back and repealed altogether, although it may take several decades.
Those who would carry forward the ideas and principles of self-ownership, private property, free markets, laissez faire, the rule of law, and constitutionalism which informed America's founders must become more active on the key ideological battle fronts. We need more influence not just in politics, but in areas of entertainment, academia, journalism, think tanks, churches (we need our own individualist Walter Rauschenbushes), literature, art, and other venues of expression and activism.
Marxism and socialism have proved to be colossal failures all over the world. As Frederic Bastiat wrote in his classic The Law just prior to his death, "let us now try liberty"!
Could it be clearer,my fellow Americans?
Take it from some one who endured it first
hand!!

Cut the BS and showing you don't know squat. The Constitution is broadly written and hardly limits the federal government at all.

The very first mandate was passed by the either the first or second Congress and signed into law by President Washington. Pretty sure it was the Militia Act of 1792 and it MANDATED that all men aged 18 - 45 (with certain exceptions) be in possession of a firearm, ammunition, powder, blanket and other items in the event they were called forward to participate in the militia (draft?).

So they were going to force you to buy your own fighting gun and draft you........what is limiting about that?

Several of the founding fathers to include Jefferson were leary of a Plutocracy (Government controlled by the rich such as the TEA Party unwittingly supports) and supported the idea of an Estate Tax.

okb2 wrote:

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I heard if Obama wins they were going to repeal the Ammendment limiting him to two terms.

What cartoon network show was that on?

okb2 wrote:

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Cut the BS and showing you don't know squat. The Constitution is broadly written and hardly limits the federal government at all.
The very first mandate was passed by the either the first or second Congress and signed into law by President Washington. Pretty sure it was the Militia Act of 1792 and it MANDATED that all men aged 18 - 45 (with certain exceptions) be in possession of a firearm, ammunition, powder, blanket and other items in the event they were called forward to participate in the militia (draft?).
So they were going to force you to buy your own fighting gun and draft you........what is limiting about that?
Several of the founding fathers to include Jefferson were leary of a Plutocracy (Government controlled by the rich such as the TEA Party unwittingly supports) and supported the idea of an Estate Tax.

You seem confused. The "Tea Party" people aren't Rich. They simply care about leaving our children more than a pathetic joke of a Deficit and Debt ridden nightmare of a Country. As a committed Orwellian Big Govt Tax Slaver You wouldn't understand that kind of commitment to our children.

Reality Bites wrote:

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You seem confused. The "Tea Party" people aren't Rich. They simply care about leaving our children more than a pathetic joke of a Deficit and Debt ridden nightmare of a Country. As a committed Orwellian Big Govt Tax Slaver You wouldn't understand that kind of commitment to our children.

I did not say the TEA party were rich, I said they support government controlled by the rich. And that they do so unwittingly. That is a completely different thing.

And no, they could not care less about leaving their kids and grandkids a dime.

Do they want to end SS and Medicare today? NO! They want to end it at some point in the future after they have gotten all they can out of it. And who is going to pay to allow them to get all they can? Their kids and Grandkids.

Now, since their kids and Grandkids are paying to support the TEA Party members while they get all they can, how are their kids and grandkids going to be able to save for retirement since SS and Medicare won't be there for them?

If that is not correct, why don't you explain the TEA Party plan for SS and Medicare.

And remember, don't raise taxes a dime.

Most people today, if they are less then 50 years old, know they will never see Social Security, or Medicare, and they are making allowances for that reality. If they are not they should know the rest of us have no sympathy for them. They are on their own. It is time Americans take care of themselves, and only themselves. All those people who lived off the sweat of others should have known the free ride could not last forever. We teach our children a certain amount of their allowance should be saved for somthing they want, or for gifts. That is just reality, and the wouldn't think of buying something they want until it goes on sale. It is a mattr of disciplain.

In yet another stunning attack on freedom of religion, President Barack Obama's Justice Department asked the Supreme Court last week to give the federal government the power to tell a church who its ministers will be.

The case involves a former teacher at Lutheran school, who along with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is pushing a claim that a Lutheran congregation should be forced to restore her ministry position.

Americans United for Separation of Church and

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints, the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, and the American Center for Law and Justice are among those who have filed briefs supporting the Lutherans.

In 1999, the Hosanna-Tabor Evangelical Lutheran Church and School in Redford, Mich., hired Cheryl Perich to be a lay teacher on a one-year contract in its kindergarten.

The next year, Perich became a "called" teacher at the school after she became a commissioned minister in the church.

"To receive a call, a candidate must be selected by a local church congregation," said a brief the church submitted to the Supreme Court that was prepared by lawyers at the Beckett Fund for Religious Liberty and Douglas Laycock of the University of Virginia Law School.

"At Hosanna-Tabor, the school board typically presents a choice of candidates to the congregation, and after prayerfully considering the candidates, the congregation extends a call via congregational vote," the brief said. "Once the call has been accepted, the candidate is installed in office via the public rite of 'commissioning,' and is recognized as a 'Minister of Religion, Commissioned'— also known as a 'commissioned minister.'"

As a minister in the school, Perich taught religious classes, led students in prayer and performed other religious tasks. She was also expected to integrate the teaching of the Lutheran faith into all so-called "secular" classes, including math, science, social studies and art.

In 2004, Perich was diagnosed with narcolepsy and was unable to teach the fall semester. In January 2005, when she could not return, the school hired another teacher to take her place during the spring.

Later that month, according to a brief filed by the Justice Department's Office of the Solicitor General, Perich informed the school's principal, Stacey Hoeft, via email that she would be able to return to work the following month.

The principal informed her they had already hired a replacement teacher for the rest of the year.

The congregation then voted to ask Perich for a "peaceful release from her call."

"'Peaceful release' is a religious act by which a congregation and a called minister agree to release one another from the mutual obligations of the call," says the brief submitted by the church.

"Peaceful releases are common, and they leave the called minister in good standing and eligible for a new call."

Perich declined to be peacefully released. In late February, she showed up at the school and met with Principal Hoeft.

"Later that day, Perich told Hoeft that if she were not reinstated, she would sue the church," said the church's brief. "Hoeft immediately asked Perich if that were what she really meant, because a lawsuit would clearly violate the church's conflict resolution policy applicable to called employees. Perich repeated the threat."

The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod explained this teaching in its own brief: "St. Paul teaches in his first letter to the Corinthians that Christians should generally resolve their disputes internally without going to the secular courts for relief." For this reason, the church has developed procedures for settling internal disputes.

A few weeks after the meeting between Perich and Hoeft, the Hosanna-Tabor congregation voted to "rescind Perich's call" because she had threatened to sue the church contrary to the church's teaching...

Cat74 wrote:

Most people today, if they are less then 50 years old, know they will never see Social Security, or Medicare, and they are making allowances for that reality. If they are not they should know the rest of us have no sympathy for them. They are on their own. It is time Americans take care of themselves, and only themselves. All those people who lived off the sweat of others should have known the free ride could not last forever. We teach our children a certain amount of their allowance should be saved for somthing they want, or for gifts. That is just reality, and the wouldn't think of buying something they want until it goes on sale. It is a mattr of disciplain.

How can they make allowances when they are paying 15.3% of their income in taxes to support those on SS and Medicare?

Why won't you let them use that 15.3% to save for their future?

Todays retirees get the benefit of that 15.3% and those that are paying it will not. To the TEA Party that is fair.

The TEA Party, if they were responsible and accountable would stop SS and Medicare today and they would stop the taxes that pay for it.

WDRussell wrote:

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If the GOP had any good ideas they wouldn't need the Jim Crow laws.

And the name of this movie is "Stupid rides again"..... FYI(dumazz): It was the Demoncrats who instituted Jim Crow. You are OBVIOUSLY the product of the NEW public education system. Where history isn't taught,merely re-written to promote ignorance over fact. Seems to worked well on you.

okb2 wrote:

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How can they make allowances when they are paying 15.3% of their income in taxes to support those on SS and Medicare?
Why won't you let them use that 15.3% to save for their future?
Todays retirees get the benefit of that 15.3% and those that are paying it will not. To the TEA Party that is fair.
The TEA Party, if they were responsible and accountable would stop SS and Medicare today and they would stop the taxes that pay for it.

I'm 57 and getting close to the time I can retire. I would GLADLY forego my SSI if the WHOLE SSI program were stopped/abolished/killed/disma ntled today. No more SSI disability. No more SSI for anyone. That also meqans no more taxes for SSI to be re-distributed. The fastest way to rid a program of waste/fraud/abuse is to end it. The gov't has been pouring money down that rathole for decades with little proper accountability,only to see the costs skyrocket. Too easy to get on the dole. Time to end it.

okimar wrote:

<quoted text>And the name of this movie is "Stupid rides again"..... FYI(dumazz): It was the Demoncrats who instituted Jim Crow. You are OBVIOUSLY the product of the NEW public education system. Where history isn't taught,merely re-written to promote ignorance over fact. Seems to worked well on you.

And your logic tells you that since Democrats came up with them, then Republicans are forbidden from using them?

okimar wrote:

<quoted text>I'm 57 and getting close to the time I can retire. I would GLADLY forego my SSI if the WHOLE SSI program were stopped/abolished/killed/disma ntled today. No more SSI disability. No more SSI for anyone. That also meqans no more taxes for SSI to be re-distributed. The fastest way to rid a program of waste/fraud/abuse is to end it. The gov't has been pouring money down that rathole for decades with little proper accountability,only to see the costs skyrocket. Too easy to get on the dole. Time to end it.

I said end the taxes. But of course that is only if the TEA Party really cares about their children and grandchildren.

okb2 wrote:

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And your logic tells you that since Democrats came up with them, then Republicans are forbidden from using them?

Uh....,you don't look under the bed if you haven't been there yourself..... Democrats have ALWAYS been the party of racism. These days it is in the mold packaged by LBJ's democrats,designed to 1). keep tabs on the majority of Blacks by corraling them in Gov't housing in large population areas. 2). Create a system of dependency with entitlements which will(HAS),3). insured the Black vote for the "caring/benevolent" democrats. Yes,there is a method to the democrats' madness concerning Blacks. They have the Black voters' right where they want them....Literally.

okb2 wrote:

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I said end the taxes. But of course that is only if the TEA Party really cares about their children and grandchildren.

The Tea Party has jacksh1t to do with any of this. Its apparent the Tea Party has people like you scared sh1tless that you might have to become self-sustaining. Sooooo,just how dependent are YOU on the taxpayer? SSI/desability? SNAP? Sec.8 housing? Habitually unemployed/unemployable,drawin g for 18 months now? Those who scream the loudest about cutting government give-aways are usually the ones most dependent on them.

okb2 wrote:

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I did not say the TEA party were rich, I said they support government controlled by the rich. And that they do so unwittingly. That is a completely different thing.
And no, they could not care less about leaving their kids and grandkids a dime.
Do they want to end SS and Medicare today? NO! They want to end it at some point in the future after they have gotten all they can out of it. And who is going to pay to allow them to get all they can? Their kids and Grandkids.
Now, since their kids and Grandkids are paying to support the TEA Party members while they get all they can, how are their kids and grandkids going to be able to save for retirement since SS and Medicare won't be there for them?
If that is not correct, why don't you explain the TEA Party plan for SS and Medicare.
And remember, don't raise taxes a dime.

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okb2 wrote:

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How can they make allowances when they are paying 15.3% of their income in taxes to support those on SS and Medicare?
Why won't you let them use that 15.3% to save for their future?
Todays retirees get the benefit of that 15.3% and those that are paying it will not. To the TEA Party that is fair.
The TEA Party, if they were responsible and accountable would stop SS and Medicare today and they would stop the taxes that pay for it.

Because a liberal congress and liberal President made the promise,,,,,,,,,,even though it has been broken several times.......the government treats its people just like they did the indians.........they speak with forked tongue.

Ed Ortiz wrote:

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We should stop having these expensive elections. President Obama is best for Chicanos and the undocumented. He is a young man. He should stay 12 more years.

REPORT: Illegals released by feds committed 19 murders, 142 sex crimes...Obama: deys jus like da homies in Chi town.

We needto give everyone on welfare, or the able bodied on disability one year to get full government benefits. Give people paying into S S all the money they have paid, and explain there is no more in the future. They have to get jobs,and take care of their menagerie. The women that clean our house have 12 clients, and make $900. a week. It s mostly cash so I don't know how they figure their taxes. All summer there are kids that want to do the lawn,and all winter they want to do the snow for $30.00. I don't care how these lazy people pay for their booze, and cigarettes. They just have to do something.

Cat74 wrote:

We needto give everyone on welfare, or the able bodied on disability one year to get full government benefits. Give people paying into S S all the money they have paid, and explain there is no more in the future. They have to get jobs,and take care of their menagerie. The women that clean our house have 12 clients, and make $900. a week. It s mostly cash so I don't know how they figure their taxes. All summer there are kids that want to do the lawn,and all winter they want to do the snow for $30.00. I don't care how these lazy people pay for their booze, and cigarettes. They just have to do something.

If they are green cards or illegally, deport immediately.

okimar wrote:

<quoted text>Uh....,you don't look under the bed if you haven't been there yourself..... Democrats have ALWAYS been the party of racism. These days it is in the mold packaged by LBJ's democrats,designed to 1). keep tabs on the majority of Blacks by corraling them in Gov't housing in large population areas. 2). Create a system of dependency with entitlements which will(HAS),3). insured the Black vote for the "caring/benevolent" democrats. Yes,there is a method to the democrats' madness concerning Blacks. They have the Black voters' right where they want them....Literally.

You dont have to convince me about those evil Democrats. You need to convince the Black people and hispanics. As soon as you do that you will have it made.

okimar wrote:

<quoted text>The Tea Party has jacksh1t to do with any of this. Its apparent the Tea Party has people like you scared sh1tless that you might have to become self-sustaining. Sooooo,just how dependent are YOU on the taxpayer? SSI/desability? SNAP? Sec.8 housing? Habitually unemployed/unemployable,drawin g for 18 months now? Those who scream the loudest about cutting government give-aways are usually the ones most dependent on them.

I think you are shooting up the wrong tree. I support ending Medicare and Social Security today and my only hope is to SHAME the TEA PARTY into caring about their children and grandchildren because THEY DON'T today.

My retirement is made and if you call serving 20 years in the Army dependent on the tax payer go right ahead, it fits your profile anyway. Now ever since I have had a grandson I have started looking out for his future, because people like you don't give a big pile of manure about future generations.

All lip service, no self-sacrifice. And yet you pretend to admire the WWII generation........when really you think they were suckers based on your own actions.