What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

PRAYER WARRIOR wrote:

So where is it that it states She can take my prayers to Christ or God? And I cant do it myself?

PRAYER WARRIOR wrote:

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Then How do they come up with her as Being the Intecessor for us?

Robert F wrote:

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Greetings PW
Peace
It does not in both cases.....
Where in the Bible does it say you can use a computer to discuss God?
Peace
Robert

Robert F wrote:

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Greetings PW
Peace
First, whether one is physically dead or alive, is irrelevant....Remember Moses and Elijah talked with Jesus on the Mt. of Transfiguration....
Secondly, in the book of Kings, Solomon(the King) did whatever his mother told him....Since we are talking about the King of kings, Jesus, is there a possible connection ? Of course there is, as an archetype Solomon and Jesus are both kings, genetically related, both have mothers, both are wise, etc, etc....
Thirdly, the Blessed Mary perfectly did the Will of God, by faith, and therefore, her intercession has great benefit.
Well, thats enough to start with....LOL.
These matters can get very deep....
By the way, I am still listening to music....Thank you again for your inspiration.
Peace
Robert

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Robert F wrote:

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Greetings PW
Peace
Robert

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PRAYER WARRIOR wrote:

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LOL it doesnt.. Good one.. Got me smiling

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John from NJ wrote:

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Since you are not a Christian why do you think you can understand what He says?
No, as I said, not all are guided by the Holy Spirit, and as for non-Christians such as yourself, you would fall into that category.

concerned in Brasil wrote:

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For you to judge Sunnstorm a non Christian a non beliver in Jesus, the worlds Lord and Savior, is for you to judge her eternal destination.
She does not deny Jesus as Lord and Savior but upholds him as so.
You would do well to be cautious when makeing a judgement of a Saint espically over the WWW, your judgement clearly contradicts the commands of scripture which says Jesus will Judge the quick and the dead.
One truly must be cautious of you and your Anti-biblical tradition.
Just my opinion in response to your opinion.
Blessings.

concerned in Brasil wrote:

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"First, whether one is physically dead or alive, is irrelevant....Remember Moses and Elijah talked with Jesus on the Mt. of Transfiguration...."
Now to post this shows you know not the Word and your tradition negates scripture.
The bible specifially condems and prohibits humans to contact the dead. Elijah and Moses were not contacted by Jesus through Prayer, you forget Jesus never stopped being God, he was everywhere all the time even after taking on a second nature through human flesh, even while Jesus was on earth, therefore he was always in contact with Moses and Elijah, second they TALKED because they manifested on earth, they were in his presence no PRAYER here only conversation.
"Secondly, in the book of Kings, Solomon(the King) did whatever his mother told him....Since we are talking about the King of kings, Jesus, is there a possible connection ? Of course there is, as an archetype Solomon and Jesus are both kings, genetically related, both have mothers, both are wise, etc, etc...."
One can only wonder how far you are willing to take the metaphor, is like but is not the same.
For one must wonder did Solomon's mother tell Solomon to Marry all those wives that brought about his demise and how that relates to Mary then.
"Thirdly, the Blessed Mary perfectly did the Will of God, by faith, and therefore, her intercession has great benefit."
Mary needed a Savior for she sinned so she did not live a prefect life of God's will so try again, scripture clearly says your wrong for ALL have sinned ALL, that includes Mary and her words for the need of a Savior confirms the Fact.
"Well, thats enough to start with....LOL."
Well thats enough anti-truth to get this day going. LOL
Blessings RobertF
Good Morning from rainy Brasil
hope all is well at home and your family are all in good health.
Truth Matters

PRAYER WARRIOR wrote:

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Morning Brother In Christ!
To each their own belifs as my mom always says..
Anyway. Glad you are enjoying the tunes. I havent really had time to post. I will attempt to get more out there tomorow for everyones enjoyment.
Have a Blessed Day.
Your Sis in Christ

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Steven wrote:

"Hail Jesus, the Father is with Thee,
Blessed art thou amongst men"
and "Blessed is the fruit of thy Sacrifice."
For You have been born the Savior of our souls.

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com7fy8 wrote:

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Read further to where the Lamb takes the scroll out of the hand of the one one the throne. Revelation 5:7.
You know who the Lamb is.
So, I can offer that the One on the throne is our Father, and Jesus is the Lamb.
It's like a family. All in the family are human, but there are more than one person, hence God is called Father and Son and Holy Spirit ... corresponding to Dad and child and Mommy, except the Holy Spirit is called "He". Yet, the Holy Spirit prepares the Bride for Jesus ... not exactly a male calling, to prepare some guy's bride for his groom (o:(o:(o:
God is love, and love is about family; so God made man a family being in His image, with more than one family person in mankind, so there can be loving, like the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit relate with one another in love.
The Holy Spirit makes intercession for us "with groanings which cannot be uttered," we have in Romans 8:26. You know how a wife can groan to her husband lovingly in order to get him to do something (o: So, again, the Holy Spirit is "He", but somehow manages to be the Father's Helpmate.
So, you know that some activists would really take off on this.
But I'm offering the Holy Spirit is called "He" to show equality so we can understand the Holy Spirit, though a distinct Person, is not some lower second-best being of some second-best blessing, but is God Himself as the Person who cares for the children of God. But "He" does well correspond in role to Mother.
"Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us." (Romans 5:5)
So, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God's own love; and only God can be the Spirit of His own love. So, this shows me that the Holy Spirit is indeed God. But God is love and love is personal. So any manifestation of God will be a love Person as well as a manifestation.
The wife of a wise man is a manifestation of how wise he is, that he chose to marry her. But she is a person. Their kids are manifestations of how they have related in love with each other. Their kiddos learn how to love from their parents. So, they are manifestations of their parents and their love for one another, but also these kiddos are persons.
It's like how gold can be poured into the forms of more than one person. Each "person" is a manifestation of gold, but each form is personal and therefore an individual "person".
Jesus is "the image of God" (2 Corinthians 4:4)... with nothing but God in that image. But God is elsewhere, too. Like how gold can be an image, but elsewhere also.
And we have, "My little children, for whom I labor in birth until Christ is formed in you," (Galatians 4:19)
So, the Person of Jesus is being formed in each of us. This is adding up to a lot of Persons of Jesus ... in each of us. There's more than one, more than three ... one's arguing about this are getting just a little bit out of date (o:

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Kentucky Trevor wrote:

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"In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God" John 1:1
You cannot be with a person, and also BE that person. It is illogical.
If there is no Trinity, then who did Jesus pray to in the Garden? Himself? Clearly Jesus would not pray to Himself, that doesn't make any sense.
Why does the Bible not say that the Holy Spirit is the Father?
Why does the Bible not say Jesus is the Holy Spirit?
How can Jesus be the Father of Himself?
The Bible doesn't teach about a bi-polar God, it teaches one God, in three persons.

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John from NJ wrote:

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Again, you are not a Christian.
Without a proper belief in the Trinity you are not a Christian.
The lack of or rejection of the Trinity is why some groups such as the Jehovah Witnesses are not Christian. Nor the Mormons.
You either believe in the Trinity as the Church taught or you cease being a Christian.
I am not asking you to become a Roman Catholic, I am not asking you to become an Orthodox Catholic nor am I asking you to become a Lutheran, a Presbyterian or a Lutheran.
Without a proper belief of the Trinity you are not a Christian.
You don't have a proper belief.
Therefore you are not a Christian.
That is not a judgment, just a fact.

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sunnstorms wrote:

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John from NJ,
For someone who doesn't know about the soul and spirit, you seem to think you are qualified to say I'm not a Christian......hmmmm
I don't care what one church or another teaches. I care what JESUS teaches. I am a CHRISTian, not a CHURCHian.
If you want to discuss scriptures and our beliefs, that's fine. Just don't push a church on me, cause a church didn't save me, Christ did. I know it's impossible for you to believe that God is mighty enough and powerful enough to make sure His Message would be perfectly composed, but that is the God I serve. No man in history was ever able to thwart His plan. You like to think that your church did it all, but it is ONLY through God that 40 authors over 1600 years wrote letters that came together to make one Perfect book....the Word of God.....
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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pito wrote:

<quoted text>You tell them lol

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Kentucky Trevor wrote:

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"In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God" John 1:1
You cannot be with a person, and also BE that person. It is illogical.
If there is no Trinity, then who did Jesus pray to in the Garden? Himself? Clearly Jesus would not pray to Himself, that doesn't make any sense.
Why does the Bible not say that the Holy Spirit is the Father?
Why does the Bible not say Jesus is the Holy Spirit?
How can Jesus be the Father of Himself?
The Bible doesn't teach about a bi-polar God, it teaches one God, in three persons.

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John from NJ wrote:

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Since you are not a Christian why do you think you can understand what He says?
No, as I said, not all are guided by the Holy Spirit, and as for non-Christians such as yourself, you would fall into that category.