What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

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Oxbow wrote:

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You wish...

The Corbomite Maneuver wrote:

<quoted text>We keep telling you, crackhead. Just because you are a black gay tranny male and think you are a she, that does not make you straight when you have sex with men. You are straight when you had sex with Happy Lesbo.
Hey all, this is the black tranny gay male that gave Happy Lesbo aids,which she posted about as Corbomite Manure. She gave Happy Lesbo AIDS and Happy Lesbo gave it her incest child.
Yes, lesbian Happy Lesbo has an incest child with her gay brother.
They are the typical gay that same sex marriage is all about.
You can find this freak posting on the "prove there's a god".
EVERYBODY COME AND ASK HER ABOUT IT, SO YOU CAN DISCOVER GAY INDOCTRINATION AND THE POLLUTION THEY ARE FEEDING OUR CHILDREN.
***STOP THEM NOW, NO GAY MARRIAGES NOR CIVIL UNIONS***
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE ...

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Oxbow wrote:

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Being a ex-expert as a liar, I can spot one a mile away. Piece of advice...for a lie to be believable there as to be a substantial amount of truth it it...

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Nijoni...Get ITB to share with you how she expresses her love for her husband....
It has to do with his "organ" she enjoys putting in her mouth.....she is proud of her "eating" habit of 32 years!!!!

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Oxbow wrote:

Catholics have no problem with their beliefs that make the Bible fallible.....
For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.
Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh.
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Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
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When all verses are taken in the literal sense, as Catholics do, you have contradiction in the Bible.
The SBC teaches the first set of verses are in the literal sense, and the second set of verses are in the metaphoric sense...hence no contradiction.....

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par five wrote:

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Well you can eat this Oxbrain!
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Punisher wrote:

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Who decides what are to be literal and non-literal passages..?

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Oxbow wrote:

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Juvenile...but cute

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barry wrote:

<quoted text>sadly your lack of faith in the word of God and ultimately God himself is very evident.
Psalm 127:3 is still in your Bible. oh, but really it only gets any of its authority from your church.
maybe you need to introduce some of those people you deal with to the God who loves them and created them. maybe you ought to try telling them the "trials pep talk". God is real. his promises are real. and the blessing is real. and his omiscient plan is perfect.
sad is the sterile man? did you ever read about abraham?
Psalm 113:9
He maketh the barren woman to keep house, and to be a joyful mother of children. Praise ye the LORD.
Genesis 25:21
And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she was barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.
Genesis 29:31
And when the LORD saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren.
Deuteronomy 7:14
Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle.
Proverbs 30:15-17
15 ... There are three things that are never satisfied, yea, four things say not, It is enough:
16 The grave; and the barren womb; the earth that is not filled with water; and the fire that saith not, It is enough.

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barry wrote:

<quoted text>how are atheists blessed?
Matthew 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
God gives us free will. therefore our love to him is freely given. if man rejects the goodness of God then he must accept the results of his decision. but his field will still get the same rain that his neighbor gets. the grace of God is equally available to all,good or bad. those evil things that you describe really are the direct result of the failure of God's people to live and love by faith in the complete will of God. the world has no faith because God's people selectively chose when they will live by "faith"

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par five wrote:

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Neither juvenile nor cute Oxbrain, just the truth, but I don't expect you to recognise it, truth being an alien concept to you. You made inappropriate remarks about a poster and you denied doing so, accusing me of lying, but your own words showed you up for the liar that you are. Just to refresh your memory, this is what you said.
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Nijoni...Get ITB to share with you how she expresses her love for her husband....
It has to do with his "organ" she enjoys putting in her mouth.....she is proud of her "eating" habit of 32 years!!!!
I can only guess that sort of talk is a turn on for you. What a sad little person you are and what an embarrassment you must be to decent Christians!

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barry wrote:

<quoted text>#1 if Jesus made it; yes. or do you think he would have needed a little more training in the making of juice.
#2 that's right dried grapes are raisins. they last a lot longer than grapes. they lack only water all the flavor is still retained in them. add water and yes you can make wine. you don't think that that is reality?
#2a yes boiling out the water and reducing it to a syrup that could add water to it later appears to be a common practice.
" The Preservation of Grape Juice by Boiling
Moisture and Heat. The fermentation of grape juice can be prevented by reducing sufficiently its moisture content or by heating the juice at high temperature. The reason for this is that the growth of the yeast germs, which are the fermenting agents, slows or stops entirely when the moisture content of the grape juice is heated at 150º to 180º F. At such a temperature most of the ferments are destroyed. Both of these results are achieved by boiling the grape juice.
By boiling, the water of the grape juice evaporates, yeasts and molds are destroyed, and the sugar content increases, thus inhibiting yeast growth. This method of preserving grape juice unfermented by carefully boiling it down to a syrup was commonly and successfully used in the ancient world. When desired, the syrup would be drunk diluted with water. Several sources confirm this practice."
http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/books/win...
#3 drunk legal and by definition you are right however wine/ alcohol changes a person because it changes the Physical makeup of the blood.
"Effects of blood alcohol content on thinking, feeling and behavior:
Now ... see how alcohol affects your body at different levels.
0.02 - 0.03 Legal definition of intoxication in R.I. for people under 21 years of age. Few obvious effects; slight intensification of mood.
0.05 - 0.06 Feeling of warmth, relaxation, mild sedation; exaggeration of emotion and behavior; slight decrease in reaction time and in fine-muscle coordination; impaired judgment about continued drinking.
0.07 - 0.09 More noticeable speech impairment and disturbance of balance; impaired motor coordination, hearing and vision; feeling of elation or depression; increased confidence; may not recognize impairment.
0.08 Legal definition of intoxication in R.I. for people 21 years and older.
0.11 - 0.12 Coordination and balance becoming difficult; distinct impairment of mental faculties and judgment."
http://brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Serv...
btw that 2nd level .05 is just one beer.
your understanding of alcohol makes you a dangerous councilor.
#4 the woe was to the giver of the drink. you can't change scripture.

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Punisher wrote:

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Who decides what are to be literal and non-literal passages..?

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ITB wrote:

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If God "blesses us with children"...then He is "blessing" atheists the same as Christians...Why? If He doesn't differentiate regarding that "blessing", then how can you believe He would not "bless" them equally in everything else? Why would He "bless" them with this most precious of all "gifts" and refuse them other "blessings"?
"if man rejects the goodness of God then he must accept the results of his decision.".......What "results"? The atheist is still "blessed" with children....yet there are Christians who are not "blessed" with children, or are "blessed" with disabled, or dying, children.
If God is in control of "blessing us with children"......then why does He bless those with no faith, or who don't live according to "His will", with children?
What's the point of living by His "complete will", if you get the same "blessing"?

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barry wrote:

<quoted text>the quote only shows that the practice was based on a tradition that evolved over the centuries. yeast is still yeast and there were no exceptions under the law of moses.
now you say that Jesus must have held the rabbis' in high regard but you fail to provide an example.
now if we are to accept this rabbi's word for it then i guess we must also accept any pastor/reverend who offers up any explanation about Christianity. after all he probably has the same level of education and the same respect within his community.
and finally, you can also find different opinions on other jewish sites maybe not as many because of the smaller # of strictly conservative jews.
"Both fermented wine and unfermented wine is permissible, as documented in the "Code of Jewish Law" O.C. 472:10; MB 37."
from Rabbi Simmons
http://judaism.about.com/library/3_askrabbi_o...
"Rabbi S. M. Isaac, an eminent nineteenth-century rabbi and editor of The Jewish Messenger, says:
“The Jews do not, in their feasts for sacred purposes, including the marriage feast, ever use any kind of fermented drinks. In their oblations and libations, both private and public, they employ the fruit of the vine-that is, fresh grapes-unfermented grape-juice, and raisins, as the symbol of benediction. Fermentation is to them always a symbol of corruption.”
http://web.me.com/martinsimpson1/What_Shall_W...
so much for a jewish rabbi having the final word just because he is jewish.

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Oxbow wrote:

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Absolutely true...and she is proud to say she is a peter eater...and she supports her perversion by quoting scripture she says shows God put His stamp of approval on her sexually perverted acts..
So...this is truth as long as the day is long: Get ITB to share with you how she expresses her love for her husband....
It has to do with his "organ" she enjoys putting in her mouth.....she is proud of her "eating" habit of 32 years!!!!

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ITB wrote:

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Is this post your perverted fix for the day? Does it excite you every time you write the words....over and over again? Poor, pathetic man.

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ITB wrote:

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Is this post your perverted fix for the day? Does it excite you every time you write the words....over and over again? Poor, pathetic man.