What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

confrinting with the word wrote:

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Jesus is God...
omnipresent
omniscient
omnipotent.
Tho he was limited to a human body
He had the ability to know all things...
Joh 2:24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,
Joh 2:25 And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.

Jesus didn't say he was God, John did, and the Gospel of John is nothing but one outrageous claim after another. There is no reason to accept it at face value.

CatholicPatriot wrote:

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No you are completely misinformed and have no comprehension at all of the book of the Apocalypse. The "whore of babylon" was the pagan Roman Empire. It has been destroyed by God and the city of God, the Catholic church has triumphed over it.

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If that's what the Mother and her priests with the spirit of prostitution have informed and led you to believe. Fully digest the prophecy in Hosea 4 which links directly to Romans 1:18-32 and Revelation 17.

I would also advise you to abide in His word (John 8:31-32) and accept the Spirit of truth (John 16:13) to open your mind so you can understand the Scriptures(Luke 24:45). He is the Word of God (Revelation 19:13).

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Ephesians 5:25-26 just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,

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confrinting with the word wrote:

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I guess I am dumb in some subjects and I do not profess to know it
all..
I do not count myself to be a Bible Scholar. I only have 60
years in Bible study, and there is much more that I can learn.
But
I do know that the Holy Spirit that inspired man of old to pen the
Bible down
DOES NOT CONTRADICT HIMSELF.
He is not going to tell you something that goes against the word of God...
as for you being honest...
THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT UP WITH HIM.
Rom_3:4 .... yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Claiming to be a sixty year student of the Bible was a really stupid thing to say. Apparently you don't even know what the covenent of the rainbow actually represents.

I could ask you questions about the Bible all day and you wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to answer.

CatholicPatriot wrote:

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I'm sorry but you are not ready for solid food.

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15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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What a monumentally chickenshít cop-out.
Sixty years of studying by Bible and you think the Holy Spirit is a him? I'm afraid you're nothing but an ignorant fundie and a lying sack of dung to boot.
Pop quiz: What are the parallels in the story of Saul and David and the relationship between God and the children of Israel and how did these relationships come to be. No bullshít now. Remember your claim to be a sixty year student of the Bible.

Just how highly do you really think of yourself, Lucifer? Demanding others answer your questions when you don't have a clue anyway. You are sure full of BS and the Chicken stuff as well.
Little Napoleon. LIttle man with an overinflated ego. Placing yourself above God's word and His people.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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Claiming to be a sixty year student of the Bible was a really stupid thing to say. Apparently you don't even know what the covenent of the rainbow actually represents.
I could ask you questions about the Bible all day and you wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to answer.

Yes, you probably could do that, and if you did you'd be acting exactly like those clever clogs that tried to catch Jesus out with hard questions. Its quite amusing to read how he dealt with them, Jesus was supercool!

Zoompad wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, you probably could do that, and if you did you'd be acting exactly like those clever clogs that tried to catch Jesus out with hard questions. Its quite amusing to read how he dealt with them, Jesus was supercool!

It appears the longer a fundie studies the Bible the stupider he gets because he spends more time trying to rationalize a stupid preconception.

Anyway, you dson't know jack about the Bible, plain and simple.

Here's an easy one, a slam dunk since the story is only fourteen verses.
What is the underlying theology in the legend of Cain and Abel?

Jaimie wrote:

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Wrath of Titans was just OK Hades was a BABE
He procides over the underworld where Heaven and Hell reside. I asked to talk to God there once. I think Hades keeps him captive or preoccupied.

I am surpirsed nobody embarked on discussions of the prior Popes enterence into the revised edition of the bible from 1979; and how he protrayed Hades into the Bible as the One God prior to God and his continual existence as God of Heaven and Hell and where Satan and God both reside.

I know you can call upon the "Fates" to assist as their life and responsibilities hold no death until no life is left on the planet at all. So the nation the Fates are protrayed to work and reside and any infomration they may host on any topical knowledge would be a exciting adventure.

I know all translations were vile and gossip formations of discruttled civilians that held no land of their own, of their own fault of not wanting to be in life outside of anothers mans land and security and employment offers. The Dracula movie was sad, in real life, he was the whole land owner of the city. Nobody knew. He was a kind mind that got blood poisening form the water and enzigmnes that the huge populous brought with their vile filth and refusal to clean their own land and waste he provided. He was a genuis and Doctor, he was so melodic and patronising as he completed surgical procedures, pointing out each tool, each moment a slice procision that people died of shock on his table or went in a coma. BUT he was a genuis of surgical procedures, the town had a doctor that buthcered threw experimentation about 15 deaths a week to Draculas 15 deaths in 5 years. Those he worked on stayed with him as grateful service to being alive at all. He was going to send out homeing pegiuns to his kinfolk in other cities ROYAL FAMILIES to have all civilans escorted off his land for not knowing who he was and coming agaisnt him with thier vile slander.
He was a wonderful Doctor, just hypnotically passionate about every detail it would even trance mind himself.

Nobody does the real valid research any longer and have to paraphrase others books to call it research at all.

(example) Here is research 500 books on a septor, All gossip about each others passion and wording, nothing inspirational to bounce off of their work but a topic and a word that was mutally used in each book, A real researcher comes in to psycho-analyse the scene and research the topic the septor and the word, Th eprimary book author of the object and defining word of power was researching in a university, the room unde rhim had a hidden vault in the wall that held the septor, all others that continued research were of blood line, or natural origins of the person or object themself.

That is the kind of research people should be invested into when reference to a religion and pertinance to you. Not qouting a passage and pasting it to justify your actions, he the dead man got away with it 2000 years prior so why would you even think to look in my windows at all. Martyr instigating elusive fool, I pray to be alive the day God damns you. Waste of time and space. God would have said "I see the point behind your rage Jaimie, although in times of despair and no formatible conversation inbetween projects they did render a faucet of amusement to get you aggitated to continue yoru own studies and travel again, company if nothing at all correct? Your still young you'll understand later"

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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What a monumentally chickenshít cop-out.
Sixty years of studying by Bible and you think the Holy Spirit is a him? I'm afraid you're nothing but an ignorant fundie and a lying sack of dung to boot.
Pop quiz: What are the parallels in the story of Saul and David and the relationship between God and the children of Israel and how did these relationships come to be. No bullshít now. Remember your claim to be a sixty year student of the Bible.

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A person that has nothing to say..

says it with name calling and filth language.

Evidently you need to deal with you sanctification

more than asking questions about biblical characters.

Jesus said..

Mat_5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Quoting Scripture and getting into a discourse about Saul and David

does not bring nor prove one's Salvation.

Question ..

ARE YOU A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN?..

JESUS SAID

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

ARE YOU A NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST JESUS.

When you settle this question above first... I will not mind a discourse about

Saul the Benjaminite first king of Israel..

and David the Son of Jesse who followed Him.

HAVE YOU..FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW?

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?

DO YOU KNOW JESUS CHRIST TO THE FULL PARDON OF YOU SINS?

Zoompad wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, you probably could do that, and if you did you'd be acting exactly like those clever clogs that tried to catch Jesus out with hard questions. Its quite amusing to read how he dealt with them, Jesus was supercool!

Jesus, of course, was able to answer the questions. You are not.

These are not difficult questions. The answers are easily found in the Bible.

Why did Joshua install the Ark of the Covenant at Shiloh and not Jerusalem.

Why did Sampson lose his strength when his hair was cut.
Hint: It is something he has in common with Jesus.

I guess you can't answer any of these questions because you are dumber than a sack of bricks and the Bible is a complex collection of documents. Can we agree on that, at least?

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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It appears the longer a fundie studies the Bible the stupider he gets because he spends more time trying to rationalize a stupid preconception.
Anyway, you dson't know jack about the Bible, plain and simple.
Here's an easy one, a slam dunk since the story is only fourteen verses.
What is the underlying theology in the legend of Cain and Abel?

I can't talk like you because I missed a lot of school due to being put in a childrens prison after being raped, and I never went to University. So you will have to excuse the blunt way that I talk. If you mean what is the moral message in the legend of Abel and Cain, first of all it isn't a legend, as Abel and Cain were real human beings. I suppose what I learn from that part of the Bible is that it is wrong to envy other people, it can drive you to get angry and do something that you will regret for the rest of your life. I'm sure Cain must have bitterly regretted murdering his brother.

CatholicPatriot wrote:

The Beast in Apocalypse Chapter 13 is the Roman Empire. The second half is about the Emperor Nero,
whose number was 666. Nero is the second beast.

Yes, you are correct in saying the Beast in Apocalypse Chapter 13 is the Roman Empire. But you are incorrect to say that the beast out of the earth is about the Emperor Nero, whose number was 666.

The Beast out of the sea (Revelation 1-10) represents the Roman Empire from the time of the cross to the Roman Crusader Wars which is the first thousand years (Revelation 20:1-6) when Gods people (Jewish Apostles)(Revelation 7) would reign with Christ as priests for a thousand years. The second thousand years (Revelation 20:7-10) from the Roman Crusader Wars to WWII (Revelation 11:14) is when satan had to be released (loosed) from his prison to deceive the nations for a thousand years, to gather Gog and Magog together for battle, whose number is like the sand of the sea. And they encompassed the breath of the earth, the holy city Jerusalem and the camp of the saints and killed them! This was the second thousand years, which ended a short time after World War II in 1945 when Hitler tried to start the Third Reich (thousand years). You also need to understand that during the second thousand years the Beast would (Roman Empire) would hide behind the Mother ( Roman Catholic Chuch) since the 10th century, only for the Beast (Political authority) to come back up from the Abyss and be given his authority again to rule the world under the guise of many nations united ( Revelation 17 ). In other words Rome (Beast) camouflaged itself as the Roman Catholic Church(Mother)for the past 1,000 years and gave birth to all her offspring, the other Christian Churches, her whores, and now they have switched back to their political new Roman Empire (the new world order or globalization).

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Revelation 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction.

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(Revelation 13:11-18)=(2 Thessalonians 2)=(Revelation 19:10-21)=(Revelation 11:14)

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15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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Jesus, of course, was able to answer the questions. You are not.
These are not difficult questions. The answers are easily found in the Bible.
Why did Joshua install the Ark of the Covenant at Shiloh and not Jerusalem.
Why did Sampson lose his strength when his hair was cut.
Hint: It is something he has in common with Jesus.
I guess you can't answer any of these questions because you are dumber than a sack of bricks and the Bible is a complex collection of documents. Can we agree on that, at least?

No we can't, as you can hardly expect me to admit to being a brickhead, and very rude of you to suggest that I am!

I will answer your questions if you will let me ask you one. Is that a deal?

I have to get offline for a bit but will come back, someone else needs to use the computer

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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Claiming to be a sixty year student of the Bible was a really stupid thing to say. Apparently you don't even know what the covenant of the rainbow actually represents.
I could ask you questions about the Bible all day and you wouldn't have the foggiest idea how to answer.

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THERE IS NO COVENANT CALLED THE THE "RAINBOW COVENANT."

IN THE BIBLE

ONLY ONE THAT SPEAKS OF A BOW IN THE CLOUDS..."RAINBOW "IS NOT MENTIONED IN

Gen 9:8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,

Gen 9:9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;

Gen 9:10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.

Gen 9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

Gen 9:12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

Gen 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

Gen 9:14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:

Gen 9:15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

Gen 9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

Gen 9:17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

confrinting with the word wrote:

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A person that has nothing to say..
says it with name calling and filth language.
Evidently you need to deal with you sanctification
more than asking questions about biblical characters.
Jesus said..
Mat_5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Quoting Scripture and getting into a discourse about Saul and David
does not bring nor prove one's Salvation.
Question ..
ARE YOU A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN?..
JESUS SAID
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
ARE YOU A NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST JESUS.
When you settle this question above first... I will not mind a discourse about
Saul the Benjaminite first king of Israel..
and David the Son of Jesse who followed Him.
HAVE YOU..FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW?
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?
DO YOU KNOW JESUS CHRIST TO THE FULL PARDON OF YOU SINS?

A Born Again Christian? You don't even know what that is. If you mean barely literate right-wing arrogant blowhard, I'll have to say no.

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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What a monumentally chickenshít cop-out.
Sixty years of studying by Bible and you think the Holy Spirit is a him? I'm afraid you're nothing but an ignorant fundie and a lying sack of dung to boot.
Pop quiz: What are the parallels in the story of Saul and David and the relationship between God and the children of Israel and how did these relationships come to be. No bullshít now. Remember your claim to be a sixty year student of the Bible.

YOU WROTE

Sixty years of studying by Bible and you think the Holy Spirit is a him? I'm afraid you're nothing but an ignorant fundie and a lying sack of dung to boot.

ALL I KNOW IS THAT JESUS SAID.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when ==>he, the Spirit of truth, is come,==> he will guide you into all truth: for ==>he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever ==>he shall hear, that shall ==>he speak: and ==>he will shew you things to come.

Joh 16:14 ==> He shall glorify me: for==>he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that ==>he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

==>JESUS CALLED THE HOLY SPIRIT HE...

15th Dalai Lama wrote:

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A Born Again Christian? You don't even know what that is. If you mean barely literate right-wing arrogant blowhard, I'll have to say no.

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YOU ARE TRYING YOUR UTMOST TO OFFEND ME

BUT I REFUSE YOUR CHALLENGE SATAN..

I WILL SAY TO YOU THE SAME THING THAT THAT MICHAEL SAID..

Jud_1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses,

durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said,

The Lord rebuke thee.

AND BELIEVE ME HE WILL

Zoompad wrote:

<quoted text>I can't talk like you because I missed a lot of school due to being put in a childrens prison after being raped, and I never went to University. So you will have to excuse the blunt way that I talk. If you mean what is the moral message in the legend of Abel and Cain, first of all it isn't a legend, as Abel and Cain were real human beings. I suppose what I learn from that part of the Bible is that it is wrong to envy other people, it can drive you to get angry and do something that you will regret for the rest of your life. I'm sure Cain must have bitterly regretted murdering his brother.

Please forgive the blunt comments. The threats of eternal damnation were coming so fast I got you confused with the guy claiming to be a sixty year student of the Bible who can't spell confronting.

Here's a freebie as a peace offering. The theology in the story of Cain and Abel.

Genesis 4:7
Sin crouches at your door but you may rise above it.

Pretty awesome, huh?

Don't suppose I should ask Confrinting to list the types of offerings the Lord demands. That is a hard question.

Again, my apologies. The peace offering, Biblically speaking, indicates that we are at peace. I hope this may be the case.

confrinting with the word wrote:

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YOU ARE TRYING YOUR UTMOST TO OFFEND ME
BUT I REFUSE YOUR CHALLENGE SATAN..
I WILL SAY TO YOU THE SAME THING THAT THAT MICHAEL SAID..
Jud_1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses,
durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said,
The Lord rebuke thee.
AND BELIEVE ME HE WILL

If the Lord will rebuke me the Lord will rebuke me, not some two-bit clodhopper from Cabbageville.

The passage cited, by the way, is a reference to the non-canonical 'Assumption of Moses'.

confrinting with the word wrote:

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YOU ARE TRYING YOUR UTMOST TO OFFEND ME
BUT I REFUSE YOUR CHALLENGE SATAN..
I WILL SAY TO YOU THE SAME THING THAT THAT MICHAEL SAID..
Jud_1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses,
durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said,
The Lord rebuke thee.
AND BELIEVE ME HE WILL

I don't believe a word you say. I thought the lying sack of dung part covered that.