What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

ITB wrote:

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Barry, Barry, Barry...I feel like I'm talking to my husband..:-P
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Seraphima wrote:

<quoted text>I am so very sorry for you loss of your sister.May Her Memory Be Eternal.It is sad to think that someone has nothing better to do with their life other than get on the compter to fight with someone that they will never meet.Crazy.Use the compter for a positive means.Also,people like that are really troubled and need help that you and I can not give them.We can only pray for them that God will show them the light and they will find peace in their hearts.Again,sorry for your loss.Peace to you.

barry wrote:

<quoted text>uh oh don't let him get jealous now.

ITB wrote:

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Barry, Barry, Barry...I feel like I'm talking to my husband..:-P
I'm surprised you would stoop to this kind of thing without doing thorough research. I went to the link you provided to check the accuracy of what you posted and at the bottom was a link to this critique of the work you copied and pasted.
Here's the first paragraph of the critique. It goes on to point out all the errors involved. Also, as you can see, it refers you and any other reader to the OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS OF THE CC...THE CATECHISM OF THE CC.
A CRITIQUE
by Fr. Camillus Hay, O.F.M.
OF THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF
FUNDAMENTALS OF CATHOLIC DOGMA[1]
by Dr Ludwig Ott
Recently, on a Q & A Forum, Fr. Joe Horn, O.Praem.[2] requested of an enquirer the source of a particular statement; the reply was from Fundamentals Of Catholic Dogma, by Dr. Ludwig Ott. As the particular matter appeared to be questionable, Fr. Horn's response was: "Good book. But it's not an official document of the Church. The Catechism of the Catholic Church, on the other hand, is an official document. It is my duty in this forum (and as a priest) to clarify the official doctrines of the Church, not the opinions of Father X, Theologian Y, or Book Z."
And here from another reliable Catholic source....
At the General Audience of Wednesday, 4 August 1999, following his catecheses on heaven and hell, the Holy Father (Pope John Paul II) reflected on Purgatory. He explained that physical integrity is necessary to enter into perfect communion with God therefore "the term purgatory does not indicate a place, but a condition of existence", where Christ "removes ... the remnants of imperfection".
For those who find themselves in a condition of being open to God, but still imperfectly, the journey towards full beatitude requires a purification, which the faith of the Church illustrates in the DOCTRINE OF "PURGATORY" (cf. Catechism of the Catholic Church, n. 1030-1032).
http://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN...
And again from the CCC....
1031 The Church formulated her DOCTRINE OF FAITH on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent.
1472 To understand THIS DOCTRINE AND PRACTICE of the Church, it is necessary to understand that sin has a double consequence.
Nowhere is Purgatory called a "dogma"...not in the CCC, in the Pope's speech, or in the Catholic Encyclopedia.
Those forums don't always contain correct information, so all you read on them needs to be fact checked. Just because a person lists themselves as "a Catholic poster", it doesn't mean they are an expert on Catholicism. I found where they referred to the work you referenced...guess they didn't do enough research either.

ITB wrote:

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Not likely...but his name is Barry...:-)
On a different note...you've lucked out this winter if you've needed to come North for work. I'm still waiting for a blast of cold and snow before we're in the clear. We can't be this lucky. Although, maybe after last year's record breaking snow amounts, we'll be spared this year.
My son in TX keeps rubbing in that he hasn't even turned on the heat, has his windows open and is in short sleeved shirts....but then it was 107* when we left him there in August. So I guess it equals out.

ITB wrote:

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Thank you. She will be greatly missed by many people, her family most of all.
I've been on this thread for quite sometime. I came on and continued on after seeing all the misconceptions and lies being put out there about the Catholic faith. I'd never seen such hate and bigotry from supposed "Christians" against other Christians. No matter how many times you point them to the truth, they will not believe and continue to spread lies and inaccuracies about the CC. I don't care if they don't believe as Catholics do, or ever want to be Catholic, but at least learn the truth about the faith they spend so much time hating and lying about.
It's interesting to go on and see how many anti-Catholic sites there are spreading the lies and inciting the people frequenting these sites to hate. You wonder why they have such a need to do this, rather than spending their time doing something productive and unifying. I've said this many times on here, but to no avail...we all have the same goal...to love God, not to hate each other.
As Bishop Fulton Sheen once said....."There are not more than 100 people in the world who truly hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they perceive to be the Catholic Church."

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barry wrote:

<quoted text>you are right and that is the problem. not that it is a problem that you could be right once in a while:)
the protestants have done the same thing with their Bibles. we however are not protestatnts as we never left or protested nor sought to change the Cc. we hold to the KJ bible as it holds to the Textus Receptus therefor we don't have a Bible that is evolving. and yes the message has changed as words have changed. the biggest attack is on the diety of Christ as words go missing and/or are changed.
now really your explanation is understandable. so what you appear to be admitting is that the doctrine of purgatory probly never was very firm or perhaps it contained errors. at least it seems that there was very little Holy Spirit led instructions on the matter.

barry wrote:

we hold to the KJ bible as it holds to the Textus Receptus therefor we don't have a Bible that is evolving.

the perfect idiot wrote:

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You do know that the Catholic Church Punished by Death, anyone that Read a Bible other then a Priest until like a 150 years after Martin Luther started Posting the German interpretations of the Latin Bible on wherever he posted them, and you do know that Martin Luther was excommunicated from the Catholic Religion, meaning he went to the WORST OF THE HELLS Possible.

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Sacrifice wrote:

Catholics are no different from any other idol worshipper!

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Seraphima wrote:

<quoted text>No true Christain would say those hurtful words that you say to this person.It is not a matter if you agree with the Roman Catholic Church or not...you should never taint someone after a loss of a loved one.Please show some compassion please...Peace to you

the perfect idiot wrote:

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That is not true there are Quicker to spill blood in the name of their Religion then most other religions.
They Thrive on Burning at the stake at public gatherings, more then most other religions, they are really into Killing for the name of their god, more then most other religions. They are a Blood Thirsty people, they count the Blood of their god to be a sacrament they drink Weekly, More but I passed upon it.
As Religions go Catholic and all the Protestants that are Hopping on board the Catholic train will not stand before the Muslims.
Christianity can stand before it and make converts, but those that call themselves Protestant are siding with the Catholic, they ARE CATHOLIC, other then kissing the Popes ring, WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.
Christianity WILL be the way of this Earth, it just turns out it is going to be the Muslim that are going to prove themselves as Christian, and the Protestants are going to prove themselves as the devils bitch.
What is that Parable about the Good Samaritan? I think I heard about that in the Bible?
Which one of these has a Heart like GOD?
It was not the Jew or the Bible Thumper, it was the Samaritan.

Jaimie wrote:

<quoted text> I have some intrigue and a problem spraying people wealth parfume on me and holding their jems to my throat to see what it may feel like, and I have 2 daughters so dont know what their hiddden desires are either, so chose not to permit Liability payoff and prison and conversation was held free.

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the perfect idiot wrote:

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You do know that the Catholic Church Punished by Death, anyone that Read a Bible other then a Priest until like a 150 years after Martin Luther started Posting the German interpretations of the Latin Bible on wherever he posted them, and you do know that Martin Luther was excommunicated from the Catholic Religion, meaning he went to the WORST OF THE HELLS Possible.
Martin Luther Started this whole Protestant thing by posting the Scripture in GERMAN, the King James Bible was not even a thought in the mind of the Catholic Church, seeing as how they KILLED anyone not a Priest that had even read the bible.
It is like a 100 years between when Martin Luther started POSTING THE BIBLE IN GERMAN Not LATIN, and when the King James Bible came into being in English.
You are saying OH that is what the Catholic Church wanted to happen.
You are full of Excrement, and your word is not worth the Electricity it takes to print it.
that would be like saying your word is not worth the paper it is printed on.
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Funny, you should look as to What the Catholic Church had to say about this Apostate English Bible, when it came out.
They Catholics did not like it very Much, it was the DEATH BLOW to Catholic RULE, the greater Death Blow being when Neapolitan took the Vatican, but you are saying the Catholics Supported the King James Version of the Bible, it is so far out there you KNOW it will not float.
The Catholics did not like the King James Version of the Bible very much, and did not Support it, even as the Catholics did not like the English creating a New Religion. I am pretty sure there are some really BIG CURSES sent out by the POPE, upon the English, French and Germans.
The POPE did not find the King James Bible in any way shape or form to be acceptable.
Now for you to say, OH from the Beginning the Catholics WELCOMED the King Jame Version of the Bible, is an OUTRIGHT LIE.
And you KNOW IT.

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ITB wrote:

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Poor little sensitive, "persecuted", angry, jealous nijoni...LOL You're pathetic.
You're the worst kind of malcontent, even worse than Ox, 4gvn, Old and Charles put together, unless of course you're Old or Charles or 4gvn reinvented with a new name, or one of the many others that have popped in and out of here over the months all full of bigotry and hatred and a large amount of anger and an obvious lack of knowledge. It must suck to have so much hatred and anger in your life. I pity people like you.
Since you're accusing me of posting under various names, I'd be interested in reading what I'm being accused of posting. I feel like a good laugh. BTW-If you can't put up and show me proof, then shut up or be proven the liar you are.
As far as "being schooled in Catholicism"...it looks like you flunked your schooling. Bet you got a big red F on your report cards...LOL Maybe that's why you're so angry, hate filled and jealous, you're a failure.
How'd you pick out this name?
Nijoni is a town and jamoat in north-western Tajikistan. It is located in Istarawshan District in Sughd province. The jamoat has a total population of 7,747. Wow....now that's impressive!!

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ITB wrote:

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I'm afraid this nijoni person is too full of anger and hate to be any other way. She's been like this since her first post, at least the first post under this name. I have a feeling she's been on here before under some other name as she was on the attack as soon as she came on this thread. I don't actually know if she believes she is one or has any "Christian" beliefs, or if she's just a nasty troll. Whoever, or whatever, she is, I feel pity for her.
As far as her views on the loss of my sister, her opinion is of no worth or consequence to me. God knows the heart of people like her and she'll get her "reward" in time.