It's the Guns, Stupid

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Penisaurus Rex

UK

#70498 Jul 9, 2012
China condemns U.S. gun ownership as human rights violation
http://www.examiner.com/article/china-condemn...

Of course the MARXIST freaks at the head of that conniption fit of a nation have no compunctions about murdering children, or fostering suicide for employees working in deplorable conditions while serving MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS.
CONSERVATIVE

Dawsonville, GA

#70499 Jul 9, 2012
Penisaurus Rex wrote:
<quoted text>
No, IT is NOT being sarcastic. IT means business, because IT HATES human liberty, and self-determination.
It must be a liberal? They use compassion as means of justifying their need to make decisions for us "great unwashed"W who according to THEM are incapable of making those decisions for themselves. After all we might make a bad decision and have to LEARN from it! They would have us believe capitalism and the belief that America is exceptional are archaic. That their more socialist beliefs should be the standard. They would have us believe Christ was more like them than us, just because he blieved in helping the poor. What they won't acknowledge is we have no issue with helping those in LEGITIMATE need of help. We like Christ believe it is better to TEACH a man to fish, so that he may become self reliant, and live a truly free. As opposed to the liberal belief that it is better to just keep giving the man fish so that he remains DEPENDENT of others (them) for their needs, and never experiencing true freedom. That's why they have to go! Tea Party 2012!
Penisaurus Rex

UK

#70500 Jul 9, 2012
CONSERVATIVE wrote:
<quoted text>
It must be a liberal? They use compassion as means of justifying their need to make decisions for us "great unwashed"W who according to THEM are incapable of making those decisions for themselves. After all we might make a bad decision and have to LEARN from it! They would have us believe capitalism and the belief that America is exceptional are archaic. That their more socialist beliefs should be the standard. They would have us believe Christ was more like them than us, just because he blieved in helping the poor. What they won't acknowledge is we have no issue with helping those in LEGITIMATE need of help. We like Christ believe it is better to TEACH a man to fish, so that he may become self reliant, and live a truly free. As opposed to the liberal belief that it is better to just keep giving the man fish so that he remains DEPENDENT of others (them) for their needs, and never experiencing true freedom. That's why they have to go! Tea Party 2012!
Do yourself the kindest favor: Drop the 'liberal-conservative, and 'left-right' paradigms. There really is only distinction: Freedom vs Tyranny.

That is, you're either for freedom, or you're for tyranny. The whole 'left-right' thing is nothing but a way to keep people divided, and thus kept at each other's throats.

Remember: Don't employ, or resort to, the 'liberal v conservative' paradigm. All you need do is ask: Are you for freedom of choice, and self-determination? If the reply come back as a 'yes,' then ask why it is that they are AGAINST freedom by pursuing everything which flies into its face?

Either someone TRUELY believes in freedom of choice, and self-determination, or one does not. There's no 'left' or 'right' about it, in the very same way that there's no 'liberal' or 'conservative' about it either.

Remember: DO NOT LET the terms of the argument make your decisions for you.
GoGo Bar

Thailand

#70501 Jul 9, 2012
Meanwhile the American Republic is so far behind the game that the Money Elites are keeping wages so low that US people have to to work longer and harder just to eat.
Wake up. It is the peoples money they are chaining you to servitude with. The Banks are using pension funds and mutual funds to line their pockets.
The telcos are having a ball.
If you are not carefull Autonomous Bots will replace the lot of you.
Be bold. Spend, reclaim your birthright.
Obama is not stupid. Protect the individual from rape of the corporate. Flex people power.
I P Freely

UK

#70502 Jul 9, 2012
GoGo Bar wrote:
Meanwhile the American Republic is so far behind the game that the Money Elites are keeping wages so low that US people have to to work longer and harder just to eat.
Wake up. It is the peoples money they are chaining you to servitude with. The Banks are using pension funds and mutual funds to line their pockets.
The telcos are having a ball.
If you are not carefull Autonomous Bots will replace the lot of you.
Be bold. Spend, reclaim your birthright.
Obama is not stupid. Protect the individual from rape of the corporate. Flex people power.
Said the TOPIX ADMIN TOADY TROLL!!!!

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#70503 Jul 9, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
They would be robbed blind by US businesses. Their version of Capitalism is to get away with anything they can, particularly parting the consumer with every penny they have.
...
So, their version of capitalism and yours are identical, and BOTH fail to properly define capitalism.
BOTH are distortions of truth and examples of breaking the law, and neither are capitalists.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#70504 Jul 9, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
The main point being, Liberals drive good cars and also create stable, attractive, good quality
neighborhoods where conservatives want to live..
ROTFLMAO
GoGo Bar

Thailand

#70505 Jul 9, 2012
The American people, the individual citizens are being ripped off, raped, subjegated to the rich in proportios similar to Feudal England.

Lower taxes has inflated your Deficit at the expense of revenue that you ARE the largest debtor nation in the history of the world. Ponzi critical.

If you dont go back to Keynsian methods, and the rest of the world will comply, your cardboard empire is over.

War as a stimulis is 10 years old. Tax cuts as a stimulis is 11 years old. Monetary stimulis is at an end.

Wealth concentration of 5% at the top is at at 1929 levels. Trickle down was always a lie.

Take back your economy. The world will back you.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#70506 Jul 9, 2012
t clms wrote:
<quoted text>
You sounded like an uniformed student.....
A "uniformed" student?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#70507 Jul 9, 2012
GoGo Bar wrote:
<quoted text>
How many slaves were chatelled before they were freed?
4,000,000! Quite a subsidy to industry before that.
Cotton Production USA today.$5 billion.
Subsidy by Govt.$4.5 Billion.
I wonder why?
Because cotton is worn by Thailand's citizens.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#70508 Jul 9, 2012
Patriot wrote:
ALERT!!!
Seems the illegal 'president' and the traitor Hillary Clinton plan on signing the UN Arms Trade Treaty on July 27th which seeks to set up an international agency that will control the availability of arms and ammunition around the world. This new international body will have the authority to tell signing nations what they can and cannot sell within their own borders. In addition, the international body will have the authority to ban existing guns within countries.
Our Founding Fathers knew exactly what they were doing when they wrote the Second Amendment -- they were giving the We, the People the Right to defend Ourselves against all threats - not just petty criminals and invaders, but also the threat of an oppressive government and those that would seek to "change" Our form of government.
The UN Arms treaty will try to enforce impossible licensing requirements designed to keep law abiding Americans from owning guns. In addition, the Arms Trade Treaty will hijack and destroy all weapons that are classified as "unauthorized." What exactly classifies a firearm as "unauthorized" is up to their globalist puppet masters. The treaty will ban the trade, sale, and private ownership of most semi-automatic weapons - even those designed for hunting. Clinton, Obama and their anti-liberty cohorts are also calling for an INTERNATIONAL GUN REGISTRY that would pave the way to eventually disarming every American citizen.
Feel like giving the UN your Second Amendment Right that "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"?
CONTACT YOUR SENATORS NOW - DEMAND THEY REPRESENT YOU CONSTITUTIONALLY BY VOTING NO ON THE UNITED NATIONS ARMS TREATY AND ANY OTHER TREATY, LAW OR LEGISLATION THAT IMPEDES THE RIGHT OF LAW ABIDING AMERICAN CITIZENS TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS!
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_informa...
Our founders gave no such thing as a right to other humans in the second amendment, as no human or group of humans are capable of doing such.
They simply put down in writing to restrict our government from infringing upon that which already exists ... human rights to defence of person and property amongst other rights that are also inherent inseparable parts of our very beings.
I P Freely

UK

#70509 Jul 9, 2012
GoGo Bar wrote:
The American people, the individual citizens are being ripped off, raped, subjegated to the rich in proportios similar to Feudal England.
Lower taxes has inflated your Deficit at the expense of revenue that you ARE the largest debtor nation in the history of the world. Ponzi critical.
If you dont go back to Keynsian methods, and the rest of the world will comply, your cardboard empire is over.
War as a stimulis is 10 years old. Tax cuts as a stimulis is 11 years old. Monetary stimulis is at an end.
Wealth concentration of 5% at the top is at at 1929 levels. Trickle down was always a lie.
Take back your economy. The world will back you.
Said the TOPIX ADMIN TOADY TROLL!!!!!
GoGo Bar

Thailand

#70510 Jul 9, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
Because cotton is worn by Thailand's citizens.
LOL. What does trhat mean? Please Justify your answer.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#70511 Jul 9, 2012
spider1954 wrote:
<quoted text>
Inspite of my brief attempt to enlighten you, it seems you still miss the point. The trick is to encourage the female to want, or need oneself, far more than you would appear to want, or need them.
Ohh, and your statement, SEX FEELS MORE NATURAL TO ME, I have to ask, more natural than what ?
<chuckle>

Since: Feb 11

Chatteris, UK

#70512 Jul 9, 2012
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
Our founders gave no such thing as a right to other humans in the second amendment, as no human or group of humans are capable of doing such.
They simply put down in writing to restrict our government from infringing upon that which already exists ... human rights to defence of person and property amongst other rights that are also inherent inseparable parts of our very beings.
Agreed.
CONSERVATIVE

Jefferson, GA

#70513 Jul 9, 2012
Penisaurus Rex wrote:
<quoted text>
Do yourself the kindest favor: Drop the 'liberal-conservative, and 'left-right' paradigms. There really is only distinction: Freedom vs Tyranny.
That is, you're either for freedom, or you're for tyranny. The whole 'left-right' thing is nothing but a way to keep people divided, and thus kept at each other's throats.
Remember: Don't employ, or resort to, the 'liberal v conservative' paradigm. All you need do is ask: Are you for freedom of choice, and self-determination? If the reply come back as a 'yes,' then ask why it is that they are AGAINST freedom by pursuing everything which flies into its face?
Either someone TRUELY believes in freedom of choice, and self-determination, or one does not. There's no 'left' or 'right' about it, in the very same way that there's no 'liberal' or 'conservative' about it either.
Remember: DO NOT LET the terms of the argument make your decisions for you.
I beg to differ. I believe true conservatives, Tea Partiers fit your description of freedom loving. We do NOT count ourselves among republicans, aka RINOS. We are the real deal. Tea Party 2012!
GoGo Bar

Thailand

#70514 Jul 9, 2012
Whatever your politicians want to call themselves you should be giving them a good kick in the rear.
The lazy swines have failed to address Pension Reform, Tax Reform and are still arguing about Medical Reform. Every other country addressed these issues LAST century.

Even Bush saw the urgency with Pension reform in 2000. It is about time each individual was mandated their own pension account to co-contribute tax free earnings into. If they are not sophisticated enough to manage their own fund, there are plenty of responsible mutual funds to earn them 4%+ rather than the 2% that pensions are making now.

Get those lazy dogs busy up there!
I P Freely

UK

#70515 Jul 9, 2012
GoGo Bar wrote:
Whatever your politicians want to call themselves you should be giving them a good kick in the rear.
The lazy swines have failed to address Pension Reform, Tax Reform and are still arguing about Medical Reform. Every other country addressed these issues LAST century.
Even Bush saw the urgency with Pension reform in 2000. It is about time each individual was mandated their own pension account to co-contribute tax free earnings into. If they are not sophisticated enough to manage their own fund, there are plenty of responsible mutual funds to earn them 4%+ rather than the 2% that pensions are making now.
Get those lazy dogs busy up there!
POINTS OF CONTENTION:
1. NO politician can represent more than one opinion. Therefore, they are worthless because they are biased, and paid by lobbyists to represent positions entirely contrary to the best wishes of the people.
2. There should be no such thing as a 'pension,' because a person's preparation for retired life should be his own responsibility, i.e., savings.
3. There is absolutely ZERO need for ANY tax.
GoGo Bar

Thailand

#70516 Jul 9, 2012
I P Freely wrote:
<quoted text>
POINTS OF CONTENTION:
1. NO politician can represent more than one opinion. Therefore, they are worthless because they are biased, and paid by lobbyists to represent positions entirely contrary to the best wishes of the people.
2. There should be no such thing as a 'pension,' because a person's preparation for retired life should be his own responsibility, i.e., savings.
3. There is absolutely ZERO need for ANY tax.
Well, it nearly worked for Robinson Crusoe.
FBI

Las Vegas, NV

#70517 Jul 9, 2012
Please the Australians will all be killed soon anyway.

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