Barack Obama, our next President

SADKO00301 wrote:

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I REALLY REALLY THOUGHT "HE" was Obama; then I realized later that
this was from the 1700's and "HE" was the King of England
amazing how Obama is trying to replicate the powers of tyranny

You're on thr right track but it is SOROS who wants to be King. Obama? His JESTER!!!!

RealDave wrote:

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In terms of government, SS & Medicare are entitlements.

In terms of illegality and immorality, Bank Robbers are professional Money Managers and Prostitutes are Night Shift workers.

In terms of Comic Humor, you're a Professional Joke.

sonicfilter wrote:

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Not all of the estimated figure will be used for employees. That's the point I'm trying to make. Anyone who says different is just running with an ideological fallacy. But you seem to be aware of that fact, so why the hell are trying to bait me? Which is just a waste of your time. I'm not getting into shouting match with some troll who likes to get people riled up.
You can't even figure out which of my buttons to push. But oh boy look at you. Seems you're a bit easier.

well actually I wanted the facts out there !

you were pushing no buttons, and you still try to lie about it.

you try to say it is LIES by the house ways and means committee!!

I gave you proof from not just that one source but also the
Congressional Budget Office, the GAO and IRS Reports, the Director of CBO ... ALL of them in agreement
11,800-16,500 new IRS employees (4000 new IRS enforcement Agents) 10 Billion and ten years (at a minimum)

So you push no buttons you are trying to obscure the facts and I caught you in many LIES about it.

I want the people to know the facts and not your LIES

So I publicly humiliated you by soundly out debating you ,

I metaphorically bashed your head in by providing the True Facts and Figures

the funniest part is you are still trying to LIE about it....

That makes you the troll and you the one who is ineffective at pushing buttons

JEB wrote:

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Thought you wanted to be serious

fred is serious. This is what a communist coup looks like.

The lawless Kenyan and his communist party are eradicating the constitution. The lizard just got some help from Roberts.

shinningelectr0n wrote:

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They're not answering.(sound of crickets)

Just for fun, lets list all of the successful Lib programs in the past 60 years... All you Obammunists, lets hear it NOW!!!(sound of crickets)

shinningelectr0n wrote:

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They're not answering.(sound of crickets)

Can you Imaginethat SonicFilter tried to convince folks that
the IRS would not have to expand its budget, nor hire any new employees
to implement the 47 new statutes under Obama's new ACA law ?

the entire IT Infrastructure must be rebuilt at the IRS according to the GAO and the IRS as well as the HHS.. the CBO, IRS and GAO all confirmed it

yet sonic still tries to LIE about it,,

never seen anyone lack that much common sense

Jon Dehre wrote:

<quoted text>Just for fun, lets list all of the successful Lib programs in the past 60 years... All you Obammunists, lets hear it NOW!!!(sound of crickets)

uh uh uh uh

gay marriage ?

Don-N-Kansas wrote:

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From where would you like your "source"?
Of course from many liberal sites and media sites that want to keep many of their investors and favor President Obama's policies, are not likely to have that information obviously displayed... but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
First, think about it logically. The IRS is already swamped with their normal duties, so much so that for years people who have been dead for years have been getting tax bills and refund checks. Cross checks on refunds don't notice obvious 'irregularities' for years, or ever... and now on top of all their normal duties the IRS is expected to identify those who do not have health insurance and impose penalties on them.
OK forget “logic” lets go with reality:
This from the Washington Examiner:(March 28, 2012)
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/416051
Need something a little more recent? This is from MoneyNews:(July 02, 2012)
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Read more: http://www.moneynews.com/Kleinfeld/obamacare-...
Perhaps you would like something from a more ‘friendly’ source?
From Forbes:(June 29, 2012)
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpowell/2012/06...

Don I agree with you 100%

also I gave him(sonicasswipe) the CBO, IRS, and GAO reports

all confirm 11,800-16,500 new IRS employees
(4000 agents for enforcement)
10 billion dollars added to budget over the initial implementation of the 47 new laws the IRS must Phase in
AND the entire IT infrastructure between the IRS and HHS must be rebuilt

and this Cocksucking LIAR sonic filter still is trying to pretend it is not True..... LOL

SADKO00301 wrote:

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Can you Imaginethat SonicFilter tried to convince folks that
the IRS would not have to expand its budget, nor hire any new employees
to implement the 47 new statutes under Obama's new ACA law ?
the entire IT Infrastructure must be rebuilt at the IRS according to the GAO and the IRS as well as the HHS.. the CBO, IRS and GAO all confirmed it
yet sonic still tries to LIE about it,,
never seen anyone lack that much common sense

Correction: he doesn't *TRY* lying about it. He simply *DOES*.

His cut-n-paste fingers must be getting sore.

BRONACH wrote:

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I know, Right?

YES!, by George!

We lost 3000 Americans on 9/11 and have spent Billions to bring the attackers to justice YET WE PAY OUT BILLIONS A YEAR IN BENEFITS to ILLEGAL ALIENS TO COME HERE!

WHY DO WE SUBSIDIZE THE INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY
And the rape and murder of our children?

Sonic ass wipe finally shut up, maybe he is busy with a mouthfull of illegal alien dick? or could him and Cway be having a threeway with Tenzing ?

PTBW Forever wrote:

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of course, because the school he went to I am sure was totally fair and honest about how great the Democrats supposedly are.
free thinking indeed
Without schools being in the tank for the Democrats you couldn't get 15% of the vote in the most liberal states(even with the media).
The party that thinks it is ok to commit voter fraud and release murderers from jail to attract wackjob voters while endlessly insulting and degrading the average citizen for not agreeing with them is obviously the wrong choice for anyone with an actual brain.
Now all I have to do is go to a college campus with a blowhorn and shout all this information out to passerby and that would be the Liberal definition of 'winning'(to quote Charlie Sheen), or maybe I should look for a local news network with a blowhorn and interrupt stories I don't like.
Imagine if people who weren't fucking pussies and total morons did the same thing as said people, you idiots wouldn't have a chance in the smallest liberal precinct.

Voter fraud that no one can prove is a pervasive problem?

Once again: I'm not getting into a shouting match with someone who's trying to bait me with distorted 'facts.'

Just one time I'd love to see one of you wingnuts slap me in the face with something other then right wing BS. Not a one of you will cite your right wing 'source' because you know that that 'source' will be proven to be nothing more than bias. Facts? HA!

cway wrote:

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It's Marine Corps, not Marine Corp, ignoramus.
No wonder you clowns failed to finish two wars and blew out the economy.
You can't even spell common words correctly.
I wouldn't hire a boob like you to clean my toilet for fear you'd fall in and drown.

You retarded babboon, that's the way the idiot clown pattycakes spells it, now get your foot out of your fat face.

sonicfilter wrote:

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Voter fraud that no one can prove is a pervasive problem?
Once again: I'm not getting into a shouting match with someone who's trying to bait me with distorted 'facts.'
Just one time I'd love to see one of you wingnuts slap me in the face with something other then right wing BS. Not a one of you will cite your right wing 'source' because you know that that 'source' will be proven to be nothing more than bias. Facts? HA!

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SADKO00301 wrote:

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Can you Imaginethat SonicFilter tried to convince folks that
the IRS would not have to expand its budget, nor hire any new employees
to implement the 47 new statutes under Obama's new ACA law ?
the entire IT Infrastructure must be rebuilt at the IRS according to the GAO and the IRS as well as the HHS.. the CBO, IRS and GAO all confirmed it
yet sonic still tries to LIE about it,,
never seen anyone lack that much common sense

LOL

Will the IRS need 16,000 new agents to enforce health-care reform?

"....On March 18, the Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee put out a news release saying the "IRS may need to hire as many as 16,500 additional auditors, agents and other employees." As you might expect, "may" does some heavy lifting here. First, Republicans are using $10 billion, not $5 billion, as the number beneath their estimate. Second, as FactCheck.org says, the GOP "simply divided the spending (which they figured could be $1.5 billion per year once the law is fully effective) by the current average payroll cost for the entire IRS workforce."

In other words: No money for desks, office equipment, rent or anything else. Every possible dollar is hiring "IRS agents." And it doesn't account for annual raises. Oh, and before I forget, "agents" is also there to mislead. As FactCheck.org notes, "there’s a huge difference between an IRS revenue agent — who calls on taxpayers and conducts face-to-face audits — and the workers who make up the bulk of IRS employees. Those who work at the IRS include clerks, accountants, computer programmers, telephone help line workers and other support staff. In fact, IRS revenue agents make up only 15 percent of the IRS workforce."

So let's go back to Gingrich's original sentence. "One of the things in the health bill is 16,000 additional IRS agents," he said. First, that's not a "thing in the health bill." It's an extrapolation from a CBO report. Second, the word "is" is wrong, as even the original GOP spin only used the word "may." Third, the number 16,000 is wrong. Fourth, the word "agents" is wrong. But if the statement gets no credit for truth, it's at least efficient: Not just anyone could pack four falsehoods into 13 words. But Gingrich, now, he's a professional."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2...

Bring the right wing source to dispute. PLEASE! I'm begging you. Just one little hint of any credibility that might sway my view of the facts.

cway wrote:

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It's Marine Corps, not Marine Corp, ignoramus.
No wonder you clowns failed to finish two wars and blew out the economy.
You can't even spell common words correctly.
I wouldn't hire a boob like you to clean my toilet for fear you'd fall in and drown.

Here's what blew out the economy, you ignorant dupe:

Just the facts, ma'm:
The unvarnished truth, part 2:

The current mortgage crisis came about in large part because of Clinton-era government pressure on lenders to make risky loans in order to “make homeownership more affordable for lower-income Americans and those with a poor credit history,” the DC Examiner notes today.“Those steps encouraged riskier mortgage lending by minimizing the role of credit histories in lending decisions, loosening required debt-to-equity ratios to allow borrowers to make small or even no down payments at all, and encouraging lenders the use of floating or adjustable interest-rate mortgages, including those with low ‘teasers.’”

The liberal Village Voice previously chronicled how Clinton Administration housing secretary Andrew Cuomo helped spawn the mortgage crisis through his pressure on lenders to promote affordable housing and diversity.“Andrew Cuomo, the youngest Housing and Urban Development secretary in history, made a series of decisions between 1997 and 2001 that gave birth to the country’s current crisis. He took actions that—in combination with many other factors—helped plunge Fannie and Freddie into the subprime markets without putting in place the means to monitor their increasingly risky investments.

He turned the Federal Housing Administration mortgage program into a sweetheart lender with sky-high loan ceilings and no money down, and he legalized what a federal judge has branded ‘kickbacks’ to brokers that have fueled the sale of overpriced and unsupportable loans. Three to four million families are now facing foreclosure, and Cuomo is one of the reasons why.”(See Wayne Barrett,“Andrew Cuomo and Fannie and Freddie: How the Youngest Housing and Urban Development Secretary in History Gave Birth to the Mortgage Crisis,” Village Voice, August 5, 2008).

Investors Business Daily had an editorial yesterday about how another federal “law designed to encourage minority homeownership” also contributed to the mortgage crisis by pressuring lenders to make risky loans..

SADKO00301 wrote:

We lost 3000 Americans on 9/11 and have spent Billions to bring the attackers to justice YET WE PAY OUT BILLIONS A YEAR IN BENEFITS to ILLEGAL ALIENS TO COME HERE!
WHY DO WE SUBSIDIZE THE INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY
And the rape and murder of our children?

Mexicans here legally remit roughly $18-20 BILLION of the money they make here back to their home country.

SADKO00301 wrote:

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well actually I wanted the facts out there !
you were pushing no buttons, and you still try to lie about it.
you try to say it is LIES by the house ways and means committee!!
I gave you proof from not just that one source but also the
Congressional Budget Office, the GAO and IRS Reports, the Director of CBO ... ALL of them in agreement
11,800-16,500 new IRS employees (4000 new IRS enforcement Agents) 10 Billion and ten years (at a minimum)
So you push no buttons you are trying to obscure the facts and I caught you in many LIES about it.
I want the people to know the facts and not your LIES
So I publicly humiliated you by soundly out debating you ,
I metaphorically bashed your head in by providing the True Facts and Figures
the funniest part is you are still trying to LIE about it....
That makes you the troll and you the one who is ineffective at pushing buttons

Got rid of all the caps eh?

lol

Oh yeah. Buttons.