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And 3 moronic American professors. Headlines after the conference in Iran read “Experts: Occupy Wall Street likely to topple US administration.” The experts were the professors

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Private Insurance Will Be Illegal

In July, Investor’s Business Daily published an editorial in which it claimed that H.R. 3200 would make private insurance illegal. But IBD was mistaken. It was citing the part of the bill that ensures people with individually purchased coverage don’t have to give up that coverage unless they want to.

Under the House bill, people who want to buy new individual, nongroup coverage will have to purchase it through a new health insurance exchange. They can still buy private insurance – the exchange, in fact, would offer a range of private plans, in addition to a new federal health insurance option. However, those who were already buying their own insurance before the bill went into effect – about 14 million Americans – will have their plans grandfathered in. The part of the bill IBD cites doesn’t forbid insurers from issuing new plans. It says that new individual plans will not be considered grandfathered, and will have to be purchased through the exchange.

"Private Insurance Not Outlawed"
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Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>destroy the economy and fool the voters:
An $8 billion trick?
THE MOST OPPRESSIVE ASPECTS OF THE OBAMACARE LAW DON’T KICK IN UNTIL AFTER THE 2012 ELECTION, when the president will no longer be answerable to voters. More “FLEXIBILITY,” he recently explained to the Russians.
But certain voters would surely notice one highly painful part of the law before then — namely, the way OBAMACARE GUTS THE POPULAR MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PROGRAM.
For years, 12 million seniors have relied on these policies, a more market-oriented alternative to traditional Medicare, without the aggravating gaps in coverage.
But as part of its hundreds of billions in Medicare cuts, the Obama one-size-fits-all plan slashes reimbursement rates for Medicare Advantage starting next year — herding many seniors back into the government-run program.
Under federal “open-enrollment” guidelines, seniors must pick their Medicare coverage program for next year by the end of this year — WHICH MEANS THEY SHOULD BE FINDING OUT BEFORE ELECTION DAY.
Nothing is more politically volatile than monkeying with the health insurance of seniors, who aren’t too keen on confusing upheavals in their health care and are the most diligent voters in the land. This could make the Tea Party look like a tea party.
Making matters even more politically dangerous for Obama is that open enrollment begins Oct. 15, LESS THAN THREE WEEKS BEFORE VOTERS GO TO THE POLLS.
It’s hard to imagine a bigger electoral disaster for a president than seniors in crucial states like Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio discovering that he’s taken away their beloved Medicare Advantage just weeks before an election.
This political ticking time bomb could become the biggest “October Surprise” in US political history.
But the administration’s devised a way to POSTPONE THE PAIN ONE MORE YEAR, GETTING OBAMA PAST HIS LAST ELECTION; it plans to spend $8 billion to TEMPORARILY RESTORE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE funds so that seniors in key markets don’t lose their trusted insurance program in the middle of Obama’s re-election bid.
The money is to come from funds that Health and Human Services is allowed to use for “demonstration projects.” But to make it legal, HHS has to pretend that it’s doing an “experiment” to study the effect of this money on the insurance market.
That is, to “study” what happens when the government doesn’t change anything but merely continues a program that’s been going on for years.
Obama can temporarily prop up Medicare Advantage long enough to get re-elected by exploiting an obscure bit of federal law. Under a 1967 statute, the HHS secretary can spend money without specific approval by Congress on “experiments” directly aimed at “increasing the efficiency and economy of health services.”
http://www.nypost.com/f/print/news/opinion/op...
Thanks for the great information

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Medicare Benefits Will Be Slashed

The claim that Obama and Congress are cutting seniors’ Medicare benefits to pay for the health care overhaul is outright false, though that doesn’t keep it from being repeated ad infinitum.

The truth is that the pending House bill extracts $500 billion from projected Medicare spending over 10 years, as scored by the Congressional Budget Office, by doing such things as trimming projected increases in the program’s payments for medical services, not including physicians. Increases in other areas, such as payments to doctors, bring the net savings down to less than half that amount. But none of the predicted savings – or cuts, depending on one’s perspective – come from reducing current or future benefits for seniors.
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<quoted text>This is total bullshit from someone who obviously hasn't read the health care bill....
It's UNCONSTITUTIONAL-and parts of it are downright STUPID.

FINES to WORKING CLASS people that cannot even afford the current UNaffordable prices-is Stupid!

For the price of Stupid FINES, they could be aligning PAY PER INCOME SCALE programs!!!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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"In December, a Bain-run fund in which a Romney family blind trust has holdings purchased the video surveillance division of a Chinese company that claims to be the largest supplier to the government’s Safe Cities program, a highly advanced monitoring system that allows the authorities to watch over university campuses, hospitals, mosques and movie theaters from centralized command posts."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/16/world/asia/...
Now normally, being a person of sound mind, I would just pass that off as no big deal. But in the Age Of The Birther any Commie association that comes within 20 miles of Romney must be considered a national security issue.
But you know that already.
Yes the Bain Conglomerate owns huge brands among them Rush Limbaugh's Clear Channel. Republicans have quite a monopoly when you think about it.

With Republicans in power the money trickles up to a few people, and their objective over time is to put a few people in control of absolutely everything - the wealth, the corporations and businesses, the land and assets - and the people will be their slaves to manage as they see fit.

Fascism at its best!

GOBAMA 2012!!

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Home • Articles • Seven Falsehoods About Health Care Seven Falsehoods About Health Care
Big myths about the current debate
Posted on August 14, 2009

Summary
So much for a slow news month. August feels like campaign season, with claims on health care coming at us daily. Does the House bill call for mandatory counseling on how to end seniors’ lives sooner? Absolutely not. Will the government be dictating to doctors how to treat their patients? No. Do the bills propose cutting Medicare benefit levels? No on that one, too.

But on the other hand, has Congress figured out how to pay for this overhaul? Not yet. Or will it really save families $2,500 a year as the president keeps claiming? Good luck on that one, too.

In this article we offer a run-down of seven falsehoods we’ve taken on recently, with some additional updating and research thrown in.

Analysis
False: Government Will Decide What Care I Get (a.k.a. they won’t give grandma a hip replacement)

This untrue claim has its roots in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (the stimulus bill), which called for the creation of a Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research. The council is charged with supporting and coordinating research that the government has been funding for years into which treatments work best, and in some cases, are most cost-effective. Supporters of this type of research say it can provide valuable information to doctors, improving care and also lowering cost.

Betsy McCaughey, a former Republican lieutenant governor of New York (and now a professing Democrat), wrote in an opinion piece that the government would actually tell doctors what procedures they could and couldn’t perform. The claim took off from there, popping up in chain e-mails and Republican press conferences. It’s not true. The legislation specifically says that the council can’t issue requirements or guidelines on treatment or insurance benefits:

American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the Council to mandate coverage, reimbursement, or other policies for any public or private payer.… None of the reports submitted under this section or recommendations made by the Council shall be construed as mandates or clinical guidelines for payment, coverage, or treatment.

As for the health care bills themselves, the House’s H.R. 3200 sets up a center to conduct and gather such research within the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, an entity the CBO called “the most prominent federal agency supporting various types of research on the comparative effectiveness of medical treatments." Like the stimulus legislation, the bill states that: "Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the Commission or the Center to mandate coverage, reimbursement, or other policies for any public or private payer.’’

The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee bill (not yet released in its entirety) calls for a similar center that “will promote health outcomes research and evaluation that enables patients and providers to identify which therapies work best for most people and to effectively identify where more personalized approaches to care are necessary for others,” according to the summary of the bill.

This claim also stems from a fear that the U.S. will institute a system like that of the U.K., where the government provides and pays for health care. But none of the bills now being debated in Congress call for such a system, and the president has said he doesn’t want nationalized or single-payer health care, as we’ve said several times.

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IAnonymousI wrote:
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On August 7, 2010 in Topix Forum: Barack Obama, Our Next President,
Grampy of South WIndsor, Ct, wrote:
There was a void in my life between Archie Bunker and Al Bundy
On April 23, 2010 in Topix Forum: Barack Obama, Our Next President,
Grey Ghost posting as echo moron IAnonymousI, Ct, wrote:

On August 7, 2010 in Topix Forum: Barack Obama, Our Next President,
Grampy of South WIndsor, Ct, wrote:
There was a void in my life between Archie Bunker and Al Bundy
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who="Jane Says"]<quoted text>destroy the economy and fool the voters:

^%&*+#$%^&*()

Right on, it is all true from what you said --which is the right thing to do to speak about what are true.
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<quoted text>This is total bullshit from someone who obviously hasn't read the health care bill....
The ones who voted for the health care bill didn't read the healthcare bill. to quote Nancy Pelosi: "let's pass the bill so we can find out what's in it."

article written by Benjamin E. Sasse, a former US assistant secretary of health.

of course, your pronouncement that it is "total bullshit" means that you know more. obviously your devotion to Obama is more important than your learning about his policies and their negative effect on citizens. or that if ObamaCare isn't the horror show that is predicted, why is this part of the law being pushed back until after the election?

you know more, so please tell the rest of us.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolu...
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I always felt sympathy for the Ron Goldman family.
Public displays of incompetence Karma can be a real bitch, can't it Ghost.
There is absolutly no corrolation between those to incidents, OJ is a killer and most all of us know that he should have been fried. Why would anyone think that we all didn't feel sorry for the Goldman family. So your logic is what???? Zimmerman is guilty of killing a innocent young man that was minding his own business. If Tryvon would have killed him instead, it would be justified.And You racial haters wonder why you are called that?
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Wow, old Eed has some serious competition for the envy of he year award. Must be lonely in that dark damp basement, surrounded by pictures of Reagan and Bush, sucking on a geritol smoothie laced with viagra.That grampy knows how to live!!!!!
I'm sure in your dementia addled mind everyone is envious of your advanced age, decrepit physical condition, and 25th year of impotence.

Gallop says 98% of those polled chose death over living their late years like Grey Ghost. The other 2% didn't respond.

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Democrats are the party of Doom.
Ignoramuses support Obama.
Ignoramus, we're glad you support Obama!! You only have to be an American citizen to vote. It doesn't matter about your IQ or your mental impairment.

GOBAMA 2012!!

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Read MY Lips...ZIPPY

** Leader Wisdom **
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Obama: If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun!
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Obama to democrats: I'm itching for a fight!
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Obama to His Followers: Get in Their Faces!
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Obama to His Supporters: Punish your enemies!
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Obama to His Mercenary Army: Hit Back Twice As Hard!
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If not for obama, Tray wouldn't have been Killed!The criminals would win!
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Obama is a better gun salesman and Leader than a republican milk toast of the free world...Thank God WE Have A Strong President....

VOTE OBAMA BIDEN 2012 Not a milk toast teabagger mormon
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Government Will Decide What Care I Get (a.k.a. they won’t give grandma a hip replacement)
This untrue claim has its roots in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (the stimulus bill), which called for the creation of a Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research. The council is charged with supporting and coordinating research that the government has been funding for years into which treatments work best, and in some cases, are most cost-effective. Supporters of this type of research say it can provide valuable information to doctors, improving care and also lowering cost.
Betsy McCaughey, a former Republican lieutenant governor of New York (and now a professing Democrat), wrote in an opinion piece that the government would actually tell doctors what procedures they could and couldn’t perform. The claim took off from there, popping up in chain e-mails and Republican press conferences. It’s not true. The legislation specifically says that the council can’t issue requirements or guidelines on treatment or insurance benefits:
Healthcare??
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Plain and Simple the problem starts with Obama and has festered like that herpes sore on your dumbass since obama has been in office... you idiot...
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Obama's "Mobster Wisdom" is the underlying cause for Tray's murder... AND bad healthcare for many others such as the 40 shootings in Chicago over the St. Patrick's Day...
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Obama is a better gun salesman and mobster than a leader of the free world...
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"Conservatives remind me of Yosemite Sam, Wile E. Coyote, and Elmer Fudd.
They bring the guns, the stupidity, and of course, the failure."

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IgnoramusI wrote:
Won't mean squat when President Romney boots his communist azz from the White House, panzy.
By the way, do you know who referred to Obama as a "light skinned negro" with "no Negro Dialect"? Was it a Tea Party person, retard?
NOPE - it was Senate Majority Leader (DEMOCRAT) Harry Reid!!!!!
Baawaaahhhhh!!!!!!
Moron!
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Ignoramus we don't understand why you think Obama is a Communist and we don't understand why you and your kind are so preoccupied with the color of his skin and the word Negro. Tell us why. Normal people can understand the thinking of Ignoramuses.

Tell us why you're so preoccupied with President Obama's race, the color of his skin, and why you believe President Obama is a communist. We really want to know.

GOBAMA 2012!!

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ZIPPY THE CLOWN: a kinder and gentler Nazi Teabag
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You teabaggers are such Hypocrites!!!! complain about Obama's race and birth and choose a half bread like Marco Rubio as there hero in Florida
Half bread?
What's the other half-muffin?

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Grampy wrote:
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I'm sure in your dementia addled mind everyone is envious of your advanced age, decrepit physical condition, and 25th year of impotence.
Gallop says 98% of those polled chose death over living their late years like Grey Ghost. The other 2% didn't respond.
For the sake of addressing human cruelty, I'll have to post this one again.... this will give some enlightenment on how, and why people behave the way they do:

On August 7, 2010 in Topix Forum: Barack Obama, Our Next President,
Grampy of South WIndsor, Ct, wrote:

There was a void in my life between Archie Bunker and Al Bundy

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