Obama: Romney, Ryan plan - undoes the very guarantee of Medicare'

Viv wrote:

It will be no medicare, it is a lie that something will be.
Ron Paul is the only solution. He is good, great politician and he would be great US president.

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BlondePrince wrote:

...Romney made the worst choice for VP he could have made. Ryan is a popular as Danny, the one who cost Bush Sr and election.

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Disgusted wrote:

I really hate to bust your bible there Prince but after this prez' actions the lines have really blurred about who does what, pres or congress. He's totally sidestepped the congress and the constitution with most of his actions and to vote for his traitorous butt is to be a traitor too! The thought that so many people think that medicare will go away is scary, the thought that so many people think that Oblaimer is stealing $600 billion from medicare to to give to deadbeats and thugs through oblaimercare is even near the right thing is even more frightening! I'm sure you're probably not old enough to remember but his s the exact same crock of lies the DemoNocrats drageout every election out of sheer desperation to try and scare voters! It's not working his time, folks, even democrats, ate running away frome Oblaimer and oblaimercare! Nice try, but he's toast!

Eric Gustafson wrote:

This has nothing to do with Partisian BS, this is as simple as counting and knowing the existing law governing Medicare and the Affordable Care Act. I can tell where your concept of the debate originated. Ryan has been in congress 14 years, you would think he knows that funding in both the Medicare and Social Security trust can only be used to fund either of those programs and not allowed for use in any other federal programs. If I know and understand that how is it he does not? It's simple Ryan was Lying! There are "three big lies" in the GOP's and Ryan's lie of the Medicare spin. The first is the claim that the $716 billion - the Congressional Budget Office's latest estimate for the next 10 years' savings as a result of the Affordable Care Act - is somehow being raided from care for senior citizens. The second big lie - central to Ryan's Thursday speech - is that the $716 billion cut from Medicare's growth curve is "funding Obamacare. And the third big lie is that Obama is a threat to Medicare. Ryan and Romney cuts Medicare more than Obamacare does. Ryan's cuts come from shifting the cost of Medicare onto seniors elevating their individual premiums by more than $500.00 a month or over $6500.00 a year, plus an expansion in the Medicare Part D prescription plan by expanding the infamous Donut Hole. The Affordable Care Act cuts future spending for Medicare - by slowing planned increases in payments to providers such as hospitals and nursing homes. The providers agreed to the cuts for a simple reason: They expect to get the money back, because the law also promises to cover tens of millions of formerly uninsured people - ensuring that they'll get more paying patients and fewer cases of uncompensated care. Most responsible Citizens see the issue as part of a broader problem of escalating health-care costs - not just in Medicare and Medicaid,but in the private market, as well. Ryan, Romney and most of today's conservatives want to apply their usual prescription for everything: the magic of the market, even though it has largely failed to control costs in medicine's private sector. There's absolutely no evidence that theory works for something as essential as health care, where consumers see their well-being and lives at stake. For instance, the Medicare Advantage Plan only had 4 to 5 Million subscribers of the 46 Million on Medicare. It's fair to suggest that a scheduled payment over 10 years of $716 Billion for covering those 4 to 5 Million seniors on Medicare and Medicare Prescription Part D payments was exploiting the Federal Government, but after all the Bush Administration allowed the Health Care Insurance Lobbist to write those legislations, all to their benefit.

Eric Gustafson wrote:

This has nothing to do with Partisian BS, this is as simple as counting and knowing the existing law governing Medicare and the Affordable Care Act. I can tell where your concept of the debate originated. Ryan has been in congress 14 years, you would think he knows that funding in both the Medicare and Social Security trust can only be used to fund either of those programs and not allowed for use in any other federal programs. If I know and understand that how is it he does not? It's simple Ryan was Lying!

Obama the liar wrote:

A new report by the Treasury Department estimates that the auto bailouts will cost the government $25 billion. Fewer than half of all voters recognize that the government lost money on these bailouts. Upon learning that the government lost money, just 29% consider them a success. Fifty-nine percent (59%) consider the auto bailouts a failure...