Barack Obama

How about the event the libs tout as zeros great accomplishment?

Christina Lamb , The Sunday Times
Published: 6 November 2011

Osama Bin Laden was killed within 90 seconds of the US Navy Seals landing in his compound and not after a protracted gun battle, according to the first account by the men who carried out the raid. The operation was so clinical that only 12 bullets were fired.
The Seals have spoken out because they were angered at the version given by politicians, which they see as portraying them as cold-blooded murderers on a “kill mission”. They were also shocked that President Barack Obama announced Bin Laden’s death on television the same evening, rendering useless much of the intelligence they had seized.
Chuck Pfarrer, a former commander of Seal Team 6, which conducted the operation, has interviewed many of those who took part for a book, Seal Target Geronimo, to be published in the US this week.
The Seals’ own accounts differ from the White Houseversion, which gave the impression that Bin Laden was killed at the end of the operation rather than in its opening seconds. Pfarrer insists Bin Laden would have been captured had he surrendered.
“There isn’t a politician in the world who could resist trying to take credit for getting Bin Laden but it devalued the ‘intel’ and gave time for every other Al-Qaeda leader to scurry to another bolthole,” said Pfarrer.“The men who did this and their valorous act deserve better. It’s a pretty shabby way to treat these guys.”
The first hint of the mission came in January last year when the team’s commanding officer was called to a meeting at the headquarters of joint special operations command. The meeting was held in a soundproof bunker three storeys below ground with his boss, Admiral William McRaven, and a CIA officer.
They told him a walled compound in Pakistan had been under surveillance for a couple of weeks. They were certain a high-value individual was inside and needed a plan to present to the president.
It had to be someone important.“So is this Bert or Ernie?” he asked. The Seals’ nicknames for Bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri are a reference to two Muppets in Sesame Street, one tall and thin and the other short and fat.“We have a voice print,” said the CIA officer,“and we’re 60% or 70% certain it’s our guy.” McRaven added that a reconnaissance satellite had measured the target’s shadow.“Over 6ft tall.”
When McRaven added they would use Ghost Hawk helicopters, the team leader had no doubt.“These are the most classified, sophisticated stealth helicopters ever developed,” said Pfarrer.“They are kept in locked hangars and fly so quiet we call it ‘whisper mode’.”
Over the next couple of months a plan was hatched. A mock-up of the compound was built at Tall Pines, an army facility in a national forest somewhere in the eastern US.
Four reconnaissance satellites were placed in orbit over the compound, sending back video and communications intercepts. A tall figure seen walking up and down was named “the Pacer”.
Obama gave the go-ahead and Seal Team 6, known as the Jedi, was deployed to Afghanistan. The White Housecancelled plans to provide air cover using jet fighters, fearing this might endanger relations with Pakistan.

Sending in the Ghost Hawks without air cover was considered too risky so the Seals had to use older Stealth Hawks. A Prowler electronic warfare aircraft from the carrier USS Carl Vinson was used to jam Pakistan’s radar and create decoy targets.
Operation Neptune’s Spear was initially planned for April 30but bad weather delayed it until May 1, a moonless night. The commandos flew on two Stealth Hawks, codenamed Razor 1 and 2, followed by two Chinooks five minutes behind, known as “Command Bird” and the “gun platform”. On board, each Seal was clad in body armour and nightvision goggles and equipped with laser targets, radios and sawn-off M4 rifles. They were expecting up to 30 people in the main house, including Bin Laden and three of his wives, two sons, Khalid and Hamza, his courier, Abu Ahmed al- Kuwaiti, four bodyguards and a number of children. At 56 minutes past midnight the compound came into sight and the code “Palm Beach” signalled three minutes to landing.
Razor 1 hovered above the main house, a three-storey building where Bin Laden lived on the top floor. Twelve Seals abseiled the 5ft-6ft down onto the roof and then jumped to a third-floor patio, where they kicked in the windows and entered.
The first person the Seals encountered was a terrified woman, Bin Laden’s third wife, Khaira, who ran into the hall. Blinded by a searing white strobe light they shone at her, she stumbled back. A Seal grabbed her by the arm and threw her to the floor.
Bin Laden’s bedroom was along a short hall. The door opened; he popped out and then slammed the door shut.“Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo,” radioed one Seal, meaning “eyes on target”.
At the same time lights came on from the floor below and Bin Laden’s son Khalid came running up the stairs towards the Seals. He was shot dead.
Two Seals kicked in Bin Laden’s door. The room, they later recalled,“smelt like old clothing, like a guest bedroom in a grandmother’s house”. Inside was the Al-Qaeda leader and his youngest wife, Amal, who was screaming as he pushed her in front of him.
“No, no, don’t do this!” she shouted as her husband reached across the king-size bed for his AK-47 assault rifle. The Seals reacted instantly, firing in the same second. One round thudded into the mattress. The other, aimed at Bin Laden’s head, grazed Amal in the calf. As his hand reached for the gun, they each fired again: one shot hit his breastbone, the other his skull, killing him instantly and blowing out the back of his head.
Meanwhile Razor 2 was heading for the guesthouse, a low, shoebox-like building, where Bin Laden’s courier, Kuwaiti, and his brother lived.
As the helicopter neared, a door opened and two figures appeared, one waving an AK-47. This was Kuwaiti. In the moonless night he could see nothing and lifted his rifle, spraying bullets wildly.
He did not see the Stealth Hawk. On board someone shouted,“Bust him!”, and a sniper fired two shots. Kuwaiti was killed, as was the person behind him, who turned out to be his wife. Also on board were a CIA agent, a Pakistani- American who would act as interpreter, and a sniffer dog called Karo, wearing dog body armour and goggles.
Within two minutes the Seals from Razor 2 had cleared the guesthouse and removed the women and children.
They then ran to the main house and entered from the ground floor, checking the rooms. One of Bin Laden’s bodyguards was waiting with his AK-47. The Seals shot him twice and he toppled over.
Five minutes into the operation the command Chinook landed outside the compound, disgorging the commanding officer and more men. They blasted through the compound wall and rushed in.
The commander made his way to the third floor, where Bin Laden’s body lay on the floor face up. Photographs were taken, and the commander called on his satellite phone to headquarters with the words:“Geronimo Echo KIA”— Bin Laden enemy killed in action.

“This was the first time the White House knew he was dead and it was probably 20 minutes into the raid,” said Pfarrer.
A sample of Bin Laden’s DNA was taken and the body was bagged. They kept his rifle. It is now mounted on the wall of their team room at their headquarters in Virginia Beach, Virginia, alongside photographs of a dozen colleagues killed in action in the past 20 years.
At this point things started to go wrong. Razor 1 took off but the top secret “green unit” that controls the electronics failed. The aircraft went into a spin and crashed tail-first into the compound.
The Seals were alarmed, thinking it had been shot down, and several rushed to the wreckage. The crew climbed out, shaken but unharmed.
The commanding officer ordered them to destroy Razor 2, to remove the green unit, and to smash the avionics. They then laid explosive charges.
They loaded Bin Laden’s body onto the Chinook along with the cache of intelligence in plastic bin bags and headed toward the USS Carl Vinson. As they flew off they blew up Razor 2. The whole operation had taken 38 minutes.
The following morning White House officials announced that the helicopter had crashed as it arrived, forcing the Seals to abandon plans to enter from the roof. A photograph of the situation room showed a shocked Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state, with her hand to her mouth.
Why did they get it so wrong? What they were watching was live video but it was shot from 20,000ft by a drone circling overhead and relayed in real time to the White House and Leon Panetta, the CIA director, in Langley. The Seals were not wearing helmet cameras, and those watching in Washingtonhad no idea what was happening inside the buildings.
“They don’t understand our terminology, so when someone said the ‘insertion helicopter’ has crashed, they assumed it meant on entry,” said Pfarrer.
What infuriated the Seals, according to Pfarrer, was the description of the raid as a kill mission.“I’ve been a Seal for 30 years and I never heard the words ‘kill mission’,” he said.“It’s a Beltway [Washington insider’s]]fantasy word. If it was a kill mission you don’t need Seal Team 6; you need a box of hand grenades.

TonyT1961 wrote:

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Where do you come up with such stupidity?
I work - you live here.
58,000.posts prove that point Dumbass!

Anything that negates your liberal lies and Obama's crap is worth printing......since he owns the lame stream media and their marxist publishers.

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Anything that negates your liberal lies and Obama's crap is worth printing......since he owns the lame stream media and their marxist publishers.

Wow now he owns the media...This Obama guy must be the smartest, richest, and most powerful person in the world.

You might want to adjust your hood, the tin foil hat is showing

He actually owns Fox, too. Murdoch is a front. Betcha didn't know that.

ActuaIIy wrote:

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Wow now he owns the media...This Obama guy must be the smartest, richest, and most powerful person in the world.
You might want to adjust your hood, the tin foil hat is showing

You might want to get your denial cells tunned up. The MSN has been in the tank for liberals and especially with Obama, beginning with never venting him or calling him out for hidding his records the first day in office. You may only be fooling yourself, but then again that doesn't appear to be a challenge.

BARRACK OBAMA: politics meant nothing to Samuel L. Jackson because the "Pulp Fiction" star only voted for the president for one reason and one reason only ... because he's black.

In an interview with Ebony magazine, Jackson explained, "I voted for Barack because he was black.'Cuz that's why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them ... That's American politics, pure and simple.[Obama's] message didn't mean [bleep] to me."

Jackson then went on to drop the N-word several times when discussing Obama, telling the mag, "When it comes down to it, they wouldn't have elected a [bleep]. Because, what's a [bleep]? A [bleep] is scary. Obama ain't scary at all.[Bleeps] don't have beers at the White House.[Bleeps] don't let some white dude, while you in the middle of a speech, call [him] a liar. A [bleep] would have stopped the meeting right there and said,‘Who the [bleep] said that?' I hope Obama gets scary in the next four years,'cuz he ain't gotta worry about getting re-elected."

So you read Ebony. You're making great strides. In your eyes you're now accepting and tolerant of blacks, huh? Smoocheroo.

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>You might want to get your denial cells tunned up. The MSN has been in the tank for liberals and especially with Obama, beginning with never venting him or calling him out for hidding his records the first day in office. You may only be fooling yourself, but then again that doesn't appear to be a challenge.

Really? What got more "liberal" press Clinton affair or Gingrich affair?

Facts - you might want to use them sometime

ActuaIIy wrote:

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Really? What got more "liberal" press Clinton affair or Gingrich affair?
Facts - you might want to use them sometime

hint, topic was MSM and Obama........and they covered for Clinton as well, and minimized the damage.

Thank Gawd Fox is there to fight your 'good' fight. How'd ya make/making out?
Hmmmmmmmmm....makin' out.

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>hint, topic was MSM and Obama........and they covered for Clinton as well, and minimized the damage.

and the question once again was:

What got more "liberal" press Clinton affair or Gingrich affair?

TonyT1961 wrote:

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Where do you come up with such stupidity?
I work - you live here.
58,000.posts prove that point Dumbass!

Oh man...You ain't seen nothing yet...

Le Dumbo is a complete imbecile. Don't try and reason with him...it is pointless.

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>You might want to get your denial cells tunned up. The MSN has been in the tank for liberals and especially with Obama, beginning with never venting him or calling him out for hidding his records the first day in office. You may only be fooling yourself, but then again that doesn't appear to be a challenge.

Too true. If larry sinclair had said he blown bush , cnn would have had 24 hour coverage.

Black Rhino wrote:

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Oh man...You ain't seen nothing yet...
Le Dumbo is a complete imbecile. Don't try and reason with him...it is pointless.

Obama budget slated for $3.8 trillion

The White House rolled out its new $3.8 trillion budget Monday, promising major investments to spur a manufacturing revival in the U.S. while walking a fine line between the August debt accords and President Barack Obama’s fear that too much austerity now will spell trouble for the economy—and his own reelection chances in November.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/727...

OBAMA BUDGET BUSTER REDUX………………….DA BOY DON’T LEARN

• President's budget sinks, 97-0 - TheHill.com

President's budget sinks, 97-0 ... The Senate voted unanimously on Wednesday to reject a $3.7 trillion budget plan that President Obama sent to Capitol ...
thehill.com/.../163347-senate-votes-unanimous...

ActuaIIy wrote:

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and the question once again was:
What got more "liberal" press Clinton affair or Gingrich affair?

Oh my, the Clinton Affair. His were embelished by rape, physical attacks, perjury, blue dresses and blowing up an asprin factory in Iraq killing two children and a civilian. That forced the msm to elaborate, and of course you have Vince Foster unreported sucide for 24 hours, and Ron Brown's plane flying into a mountain, a (cough) faulty altimiter.....just before he had to testify.

..........but again we were talking about Obama. Anyother diversions you want to swing into the conversation?

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Obama budget slated for $3.8 trillion
The White House rolled out its new $3.8 trillion budget Monday, promising major investments to spur a manufacturing revival in the U.S. while walking a fine line between the August debt accords and President Barack Obama’s fear that too much austerity now will spell trouble for the economy—and his own reelection chances in November.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/727...
OBAMA BUDGET BUSTER REDUX………………….DA BOY DON’T LEARN
• President's budget sinks, 97-0 - TheHill.com
President's budget sinks, 97-0 ... The Senate voted unanimously on Wednesday to reject a $3.7 trillion budget plan that President Obama sent to Capitol ...
thehill.com/.../163347-senate-votes-unanimous...

See? Please avoid stepping in the Dumbo spam...

Black Rhino wrote:

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See? Please avoid stepping in the Dumbo spam...

What, you
re now calling Obama's two failed budgets spam........by golly you are learning.

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By Tucker Carlson, Vince Coglianese, Alex Pappas and Will Rahn - The Daily Caller Published: 10:02 PM 02/12/2012

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/12/inside-medi...