Who still takes global warming seriously?

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Despite the recent discovery of the e-mails that resulted in "Climate Gate" and the fact this has been one of the coldest and harshest winters in many years, Gov.

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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>You must have led a very sheltered life.
The New World Order, by H. G. Wells, published in 1940.
Woodrow Wilson and the Quest for a New World Order.
Winston Churchill, used the term.
Many others used the term before Dubya's speech writer wrote it for him.
What I was referring to was the first time I heard the term in a modern sense. I have also read the books etc. that used the term but they were in a different context.

It was not Dubya, it was Hiram Walker, pay attention.
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Here's a HINT:
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Now you ignorant s**t-fr-brains libtard:
you go speak to your wife and children about the lies you've told them so far
and you'd better stop drinking up the world's supply of carbonated cheap, beer.
No on second thought go ahead. It makes you immune to all types of v.d. so you just carry on teaching your children to listen to media moguls and politicians.
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You intellectually invalid sister-dating hick.
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In a blow to the nuclear energy industry, a federal appeals court on Friday threw out a rule allowing plants to store spent nuclear fuel onsite for decades after they've closed, and ordered regulators to study the risks involved with that storage -- 65,000 tons now spread across the country, and growing at 2,000 tons a year.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission "apparently has no long-term plan other than hoping for a geologic repository," the unanimous ruling stated. "If the government continues to fail in its quest to establish one, then SNF (spent nuclear fuel) will seemingly be stored on site at nuclear plants on a permanent basis. The Commission can and must assess the potential environmental effects of such a failure."

Nuclear plants have been storing spent fuel onsite for decades and the NRC recently said, barring a repository, they may continue to do so even after they shut down.

That regulation was challenged by New York and other Northeast states, as well as environmentalists.

The New York attorney general's office said the ruling means the NRC cannot license or relicense any nuclear power plant until it examines those risks.

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You idiot, Wal-Mart is more Communist than China!
Actually, you are wrong again. Walmart is a business and a family business at that. So one could claim that they are more authoritarian or royalty.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-...

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What I was referring to was the first time I heard the term in a modern sense.
I apologise for not being able to read your twisted mind.
That isn't what you wrote, which was "I believe the first time I heard the term "New World Order" was during the GHW Bush Administration."
No mention of "the modern sense."
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I have also read the books etc. that used the term but they were in a different context.
There's only one "context" for New World Order.

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DumBo wrote:
they were in a different context.
"It was taken out of context."
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Actually, you are wrong again. Walmart is a business and a family business at that. So one could claim that they are more authoritarian or royalty.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-...
From the CIA publication you listed:

"Since the late 1970s China has moved from a closed, centrally planned system to a more market-oriented one that plays a major global role - in 2010 China became the world's largest exporter. Reforms began with the phasing out of collectivized agriculture, and expanded to include the gradual liberalization of prices, fiscal decentralization, increased autonomy for state enterprises, creation of a diversified banking system, development of stock markets, rapid growth of the private sector, and opening to foreign trade and investment."

It's not your grandpa's Red China anymore.
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From The Guardian:

The scientist who exposed the inner workings of the ultra-conservative Heartland Institute, triggering the defection of key donors, has been reinstated after an investigation.

Peter Gleick, who impersonated a Heartland board member to obtain and make public confidential budget and strategy documents, was restored to his position as president of the Pacific Institute, the organization announced on its website.

The Pacific Institute indicated in the statement that it had found no evidence for Heartland's charges that Gleick had forged one of several documents he released last February.

The documents released by Gleick exposed Heartland's donors' list — which it had kept private — as well as a plan to spread misinformation about climate change in schools. The ultra-conservative organization immediately moved to capitalize on the media exposure, setting up a website which it called "Fakegate" and using Gleick's image to sell $22.49 coffee mugs.

But when Heartland promoted the climate conference by taking out a billboard comparing believers in climate change to psychopaths like the Unabomber Ted Kaczynski, a run in donors, which had been relatively modest immediately after Gleick's exposé, spiked dramatically. Two board members resigned, almost all of those based in its Washington, D.C. office quit, and a number of Heartland allies publicly chided the organization and dropped out of last month's conference.

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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>I apologise for not being able to read your twisted mind.
That isn't what you wrote, which was "I believe the first time I heard the term "New World Order" was during the GHW Bush Administration."
No mention of "the modern sense."<quoted text>There's only one "context" for New World Order.
Did you really hear H. G. Wells use the term "New World order"? How about President Wilson? Are you really that old?

The first time I heard anyone speak the term "New World Order" was President GHW Bush. Is there something wrong with that statement?

Now, perhaps you heard President Wilson or perhaps Churchill using the term, but I had not. Understand?

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From The Guardian:
The scientist who exposed the inner workings of the ultra-conservative Heartland Institute, triggering the defection of key donors, has been reinstated after an investigation.
Peter Gleick, who impersonated a Heartland board member to obtain and make public confidential budget and strategy documents, was restored to his position as president of the Pacific Institute, the organization announced on its website.
The Pacific Institute indicated in the statement that it had found no evidence for Heartland's charges that Gleick had forged one of several documents he released last February.
The documents released by Gleick exposed Heartland's donors' list — which it had kept private — as well as a plan to spread misinformation about climate change in schools. The ultra-conservative organization immediately moved to capitalize on the media exposure, setting up a website which it called "Fakegate" and using Gleick's image to sell $22.49 coffee mugs.
But when Heartland promoted the climate conference by taking out a billboard comparing believers in climate change to psychopaths like the Unabomber Ted Kaczynski, a run in donors, which had been relatively modest immediately after Gleick's exposé, spiked dramatically. Two board members resigned, almost all of those based in its Washington, D.C. office quit, and a number of Heartland allies publicly chided the organization and dropped out of last month's conference.
Interesting! I wonder how they will spin that away....

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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>"It was taken out of context."
No.

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gcaveman1 wrote:
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From the CIA publication you listed:
"Since the late 1970s China has moved from a closed, centrally planned system to a more market-oriented one that plays a major global role - in 2010 China became the world's largest exporter. Reforms began with the phasing out of collectivized agriculture, and expanded to include the gradual liberalization of prices, fiscal decentralization, increased autonomy for state enterprises, creation of a diversified banking system, development of stock markets, rapid growth of the private sector, and opening to foreign trade and investment."
It's not your grandpa's Red China anymore.
Hmmm. How can a a "Socialist" or "Communistic" country be capitalistic? It can now be understood that capitalism and Democracy are two different things!

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From the CIA publication you listed:
"Since the late 1970s China has moved from a closed, centrally planned system to a more market-oriented one that plays a major global role - in 2010 China became the world's largest exporter. Reforms began with the phasing out of collectivized agriculture, and expanded to include the gradual liberalization of prices, fiscal decentralization, increased autonomy for state enterprises, creation of a diversified banking system, development of stock markets, rapid growth of the private sector, and opening to foreign trade and investment."
It's not your grandpa's Red China anymore.
No, tell that to those slaving away in those prisons making things for Walmart how democratic it is. Many of them political prisoners. It is still as bad as my grandpa Red China and in some cases worse. They just realized it was smarter to run an economy the Walmart way rather than the socialist way.
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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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Hmmm. How can a a "Socialist" or "Communistic" country be capitalistic? It can now be understood that capitalism and Democracy are two different things!
Prezactly!

The Valley Girl wouldn't understand. Valley Girls are preoccupied with skirts and shoes and gossip about jocks with little peckers, and never learn how to think.
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No, tell that to those slaving away in those prisons making things for Walmart how democratic it is. Many of them political prisoners. It is still as bad as my grandpa Red China and in some cases worse. They just realized it was smarter to run an economy the Walmart way rather than the socialist way.
Teener, the Valley Girl, after all, said: "They just realized it was smarter to run an economy the Walmart way rather than the socialist way."

You can make my points for me anytime, honey. Actually.
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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>I apologise for not being able to read your twisted mind.
That isn't what you wrote, which was "I believe the first time I heard the term "New World Order" was during the GHW Bush Administration."
No mention of "the modern sense."<quoted text>There's only one "context" for New World Order.
You straight-jacketed pseudo-academic. You said, "There's only one "context" for New World Order."

Only you would be so narrow as to define "New World Order" the same as
H. G. Wells, in 1940, anticipating the UN;
Woodrow Wilson and the Quest for a New World Order (having to do with the League of Nations mostly, in the '20's);
Winston Churchill, referring to a UN-moderated world;
G.H.W. Bush's use of the term per the Middle East;
Gorbachev's interpretation;
Kissinger's comments;
Ahmadinejad's contribution;
and Tony Blair's and Gordon Brown's statements.

I think the definition of "New World Order" changes with the commenter.

But you throw them all in one box. "There's only one "context" for New World Order."

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gcaveman1 wrote:
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Teener, the Valley Girl, after all, said: "They just realized it was smarter to run an economy the Walmart way rather than the socialist way."
You can make my points for me anytime, honey. Actually.
And yet they remain a communist country. Step out of line far enough in China and they will inform you of the outcome of your trial upon your arrival at prison or bill your family for the round that the police officer executed you with.

Here is something to think about. How would of China handle something like the Occupy Wall Street movement.
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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>What, science fiction?
global warming. I think the thread title is "who still takes global warming seriously?" Surveysaid "98% of scientists who study climate for a vocation." Which thread did you think you were on?

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tina anne wrote:
And you couldn't include a second post to tell us the rest or you just thought no one would bother counting or doing a little research on the people listed.
I even served under Admiral Gunn in the past and he is a political operator who will say and do anything that promotes his silly little rear. I sure in retirement he is angling for a job as a talking head as a military enviromental expert for big bucks.
What this really shows that if you have a pool of a few thousand flag officers that you can find a few that will support man made global warming. You managed to find a dozen out of several thousand former flag officers and I sure I could show up at any officer's club in a little black dress and find a dozen that would publically tell you to your face that man made global was bunk to your face. In fact I noticed that in the list that there were no marines. Just staff officers and politicians. Most of those officers retired as second to someone else. Not the officer who was in charge.
I feel so sorry for gcaveman, he believed them when they said Iraq had WMD; how can he doubt them now?

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sundaytrucker wrote:
global warming. I think the thread title is "who still takes global warming seriously?" Surveysaid "98% of scientists who study climate for a vocation." Which thread did you think you were on?
I'm happy to see that you learned to read, but sad you were never advised to think for yourself.

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