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#44
May 12, 2008
 
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Federal Trade commission supplied the information and since your too lazy to do the research the 8.3 cent is in the refining and distribution portion of the percentages. I guess you prefer there be no profit in the breakout. Try thinking a little on this analysis. The oil company makes no profit in purchasing the crude. All that profit goes to the foriegn nation how supplies the reserves. The oil companie refines the crude and distributes it. And yes it may be a surprise but there is 8.3 cents profit in this process. And it's simple math the oil company does not make any profit on the taxes. But the goverment does because they don't spend 100% of what they cease from Americans to fix roads! This taxation was fixed and is now variable and the Fed Gov is raking it in. So back to the premise of this forum. Repealing the gas tax would not be oppressive to our roads being repaired. Would not hurt the infrastructure of this country. But would reduce a small amount of taxation while not giving Washington what they haven't earned. Why is it that Liberals can multi task? For some unknown reason Liberals think we have to lower demand before we find more reserves to lower prices. You can do both at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive. Try fixing more than one issue at a time. It helps everyone faster!
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That makes more sense, I thought the figures you provided were from the oil companies.

I still am against the temporary repealing of the tax. It would simply have minimal impact on the individual and I disagree that it will have no impact on the government's budget. I am far from alone in this opinion, it is shared by nearly every economist who evaluated the plan.

I am not supportive of drilling in ANWR and other ecologically touchy areas, although not strongly against it as I have to admit I haven't researched the details of the impact this would have. I tend to err on the side of the environment in these issue because I have seen the irreparable damage that has been done in so many other regions.
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All you have to do is do a google search on Nigeria and you'll find on oil companys is losing substantial barrels a day. Learn about what Sweet vs. Sour crude is and you'll find Sweet Crude is the majority of what we use for gasoline in the country and all of Ven. output is sour. Only a few refineries in this country want to even mess with this. Do the research on Mexico. The Mexican government controls the entire industry. Non Mexican companies cannot own and operate a business in Mexico independently thus no one is investing in Mexico. Their output is pitiful in comparison to what is could be but their technology if far outdated. So that leaves Canada. Isn't Alaska next door to Canada where Pelosi conveniently won't allow exploration and drilling. Expected as long as a Republican is in office so you can continue to blame someone else. If you think we could live without OPEC then we would do this today. Sorry we can't because we don't drill
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In 1969 I paid $.39 per gallon for gas. Indexed for inflation this would be at least $4.00 in todays money.
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May 12, 2008
 
When they build the Alaska pipeline the Moose we suppose to not be able to migrate and die in droves. That never happen. After the Exxon Valdez the spill area was suppose to be a dead zone for decades. See any trends!
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That makes more sense, I thought the figures you provided were from the oil companies.
I still am against the temporary repealing of the tax. It would simply have minimal impact on the individual and I disagree that it will have no impact on the government's budget. I am far from alone in this opinion, it is shared by nearly every economist who evaluated the plan.
I am not supportive of drilling in ANWR and other ecologically touchy areas, although not strongly against it as I have to admit I haven't researched the details of the impact this would have. I tend to err on the side of the environment in these issue because I have seen the irreparable damage that has been done in so many other regions.

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May 13, 2008
 
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When they build the Alaska pipeline the Moose we suppose to not be able to migrate and die in droves. That never happen. After the Exxon Valdez the spill area was suppose to be a dead zone for decades. See any trends!
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And there are plenty of examples of destruction of the environment by industry as well. Not sure if your location of Texas is accurate, but here in PA we see first hand the results of generations of strip mining that still progresses today. Where I work (Palmerton, PA) sees the results of the zinc industry that initially built the town.... while leaving an entire mountainside entirely barren and the town itself on the list of superfund sites. That may not happen in Alaska, but I'd need to be completely convinced of that before supporting access to the are for drilling.
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May 13, 2008
 
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Ay they pay $9.00 a gallon for gas in Europe so stop whining!!!!
Yes but that's mostly taxes. They have no corporate income tax, real estate taxes are low along with personal income taxes. They do have a 19% value added tax. This system allows them the worlds best highways (the German Autobahn for example),their exports carry no taxes built into them, unlike ours) which give them a competitive advantage. We, on the other hand, put our businesses at a disadvantage with our trade agreements, and are in the process of turning America into a third world country.
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May 13, 2008
 
Big Difference. Drilling where they would drill in Alaska not fit for man or beast!
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And there are plenty of examples of destruction of the environment by industry as well. Not sure if your location of Texas is accurate, but here in PA we see first hand the results of generations of strip mining that still progresses today. Where I work (Palmerton, PA) sees the results of the zinc industry that initially built the town.... while leaving an entire mountainside entirely barren and the town itself on the list of superfund sites. That may not happen in Alaska, but I'd need to be completely convinced of that before supporting access to the are for drilling.

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Big Difference. Drilling where they would drill in Alaska not fit for man or beast!
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Wait, so we created a National WILDLIFE Refuge when there is no wildlife? Seems like a bit of a stretch there. I admit, I am NOT an expert on the area, but I would need to see studies to convince me that there would be no or negligible impact. My viewpoint is that you need to err on the side of caution here because damage is much harder to repair than prevent.
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