In America, atheists are still in the closet

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“free your mind.”

Since: Oct 10

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#23628 Jul 6, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Yes, "Bringmedinner" is morally bankrupt, and all too typical for his kind. He tells us that without his faith, he would have no reason not to murder. He obviously believes that murder is not wrong unless a punitive sky daddy sees it. And that's just the beginning of his depravity. He is happy to scapegoat skeptics, and he is happy to use the extremely derogatory and provocative language to do so.
What do we think about such people? What should we do about them? Politely tolerate them? The Jews don't think so. They and their Anti-Defamation League won't tolerate this kind of talk about them, and I'll bet that they know a thing or two about the consequences of condoning such speech.
Some say don't be confrontational. I ask, why not? Because somebody might be turned off? Who cares? Being a spineless doormat turns me off.
Who else tolerates this kind of talk? Seriously - who else let's others call them vile, corrupt, and abominable? I say we need to kick it up a notch, and take the aggressive role in such conversations. If one of these religites wants to libel you or me, give his moral indignation back to him in spades - in language that makes it clear what is and is not acceptable, and offers an example for others. Nobody should sit for that kind of hate speech that doesn't need to.
I sympathise and empathise with your frustration.. but what to do..?
If we respond with anger, we become at least in part like them.. and also further fuel their fire / their justification for their beliefs.
If we try to appeal to their reason , their humane feelings or their better nature, we find to our dismay there is none .
I don't know there is a resolution..
Maybe the best we can hope for is marginalisation and containment .. there again, thats how the holocaust started..??

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23629 Jul 6, 2012
I hate communists but I don't think they should be jailed.

You Brits are such dumb, desperate control freaks.

I have NEVER seen anything like it.

Usually dumb people are semi lazy & the opposite of control freaks like we see in Blacks or Latinos.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#23630 Jul 6, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You'd still be on the island sipping tea and eating weinerschnitzels if the USA had not intervened.
And your munitions came from the USA.
How far back do you want to go with this?

If not for us Brits, you'd be speaking French and eating snails.

“free your mind.”

Since: Oct 10

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#23631 Jul 6, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
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Yeah it is racist to point out that Mississippi is the most Black state.
It is not prejudice to hate on White Mississippians as ignorant, inbred hillbillies.
Got you ;-)
derpa de doo
I did not mention the latter..
and I suspect you hate on both..

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#23632 Jul 6, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
I hate communists but I don't think they should be jailed.
You Brits are such dumb, desperate control freaks.
I have NEVER seen anything like it.
Usually dumb people are semi lazy & the opposite of control freaks like we see in Blacks or Latinos.
Is that your second guess? Tell you what, make your next two guesses in the next post.

If you fail to guess my race, you have to admit that you're wrong about your views on race/

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23633 Jul 6, 2012
Beatthesystem wrote:
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.. tick..
If you claim to have a high IQ & high EQ.

You should be able to figure out why people would hate dumb people & degenerates.

Even a 10 year old might get it. LOL

It is not rocket science to why people might hate dumb people & degenerates.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#23634 Jul 6, 2012
straa wrote:
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You poor delusional fool, britain wasn't loosing, it was stalemate and Germany were weakening, us troops were useless, by the time we trained you in modern warfare we had allready won the war
I'm going to say that Germany were beaten by the time the US entered the war. Although in a war such as this, terms like "winning" and "losing" don't really count for much.

After the Battle of Jutland, the German fleet never ventured out and we were able to begin the blockade of Germany. The next two years showed that the blockade was the single most effective action that brought Germany to its knees. Starvation among the people led to mutinies in the German fleet followed by the eventual collapse of their military.

In March of 1918 the Germans tried one last throw of the dice and launched the Ludendorff Offensive. The Russian Revolution had meant that there was no longer an eastern front which gave the Germans the necessary men and munitions to throw against the allied lines. The offensive punched deep holes in the British and French lines and at times things were very grim but the allies rallied and in the space of a few weeks the offensive had failed. The British and French along with Canadian and Australian troops launched a counter-offensive and the Hindenburg Line was breached for the first time. After that it was just a question of how long Germany would still continue to fight.

The first doughboys had arrived in June 1917 and they were mainly used to augment the French and British lines. Pershing wanted a US army that could act independently of Britain and France and after much training he got one. This was followed by victory at Cantigny in May 1918 which saw US forces in action on their own for the first time.

Come September 1918 the Germans were retreating and Pershing had an army of approximately half a million. The final three months of the war saw Pershings army in the thick of it for the first time. American casualty rates were high which is largely attributed to poor logistics, lack of equipment and Pershing's insistence on doing things his way by ignoring the latest ground tactics that the allies were using to great effect.

What came out of US involvement in WWI was a "coming of age" for America and after four long years of a brutal and draining war, the realisation that the great powers in Europe had had their day in the sun.

“free your mind.”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#23635 Jul 6, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
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No I lied. You already said it I am a dishonest liar. I lied about hating stupid people & degenerates.
I actually love stupid people & degenerates "giggle" ^_^ hi hi
Our U.S prison system is filled with these great lovely stupid people & degenerates "giggle" I love them
I just want to go to the U.S prison system & give all of the U.S prisoners a big hug & kiss for their contribution to this great nation!
"giggle'
I said your arguements were dishonest..
you are being dishonest with yourself even if you don't realise it..
I did not say you were a liar.. because I consider you genuinely believe what you say, what you believe.

still not answered my question.. tick..

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#23636 Jul 6, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
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You don't even respond.
Is it not totalitarian rule to jail people for racist thought crimes?
I am Polish.
Tram lady spoke out against Polish people.
I certainly DO NOT think Tram lady deserves to be jailed for a thought crime.
This is insane totalitarianism.
You Brits are so afraid of the NAZIS & RACISTS that you are willing to create a law that is completely Totalitarian & anti Free speech?
Your dumb fuck island of Britain is too stupid to see it.
You Brits praise how you fought & beat the Totalitarian Nazis.
Now your Brits are acting like Totalitarian Nazis jailing people for racist thought crimes.
You have had your reply, now get it trough your thick racist head that I have every intention of ignoring anything and everything you write. You sicken me, you make we want to puke. It is you type of deliberately ignorant moron that tried to kill my children, now butt out

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23637 Jul 6, 2012
Beatthesystem wrote:
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I did not mention the latter..
and I suspect you hate on both..
I do hate Black people & British people.

I don't really see much of a difference to be honest.

Briish people just seem like really pale Africans who are extremely overly ambitious, desperate, anal, OCD, control freak.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#23638 Jul 6, 2012
straa wrote:
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No I certainly don't, it was that crazy barefoot insulting britain
He insults everything and everyone that doesn't fit into his narrow vision.

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23639 Jul 6, 2012
Khatru wrote:
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In March of 1918 the Germans tried one last throw of the dice and launched the Ludendorff Offensive. The Russian Revolution had meant that there was no longer an eastern front which gave the Germans the necessary men and munitions to throw against the allied lines.
Yeah this is true Germany did send the Bolsheviks on a train to Russia which created the Soviet Union.

Then Nazis sided with Soviets in Molotov Ribbentrop pact.

Then Nazis decidewd they didn't like their Soviet ally they helped create.

Then Nazis invaded Soviets in Operation Barobssa.

Nazis failed & bought Soviets into Central Europe.

In which Anglos Churchill, F.D.R & Truman desperately sucked Soviet Stalin's ass in Potsdam & Yalta conference to let him take over Central Europe.

Then Anglos kept the death of Polish Wladyslaw Sikorski records from Poland.

FUCK PEOPLE WEST OF POLAND.

Like a bunch of wild desperate filthy apes West of Poland.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#23640 Jul 6, 2012
Beatthesystem wrote:
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I sympathise and empathise with your frustration.. but what to do..?
If we respond with anger, we become at least in part like them.. and also further fuel their fire / their justification for their beliefs.
If we try to appeal to their reason , their humane feelings or their better nature, we find to our dismay there is none .
I don't know there is a resolution..
Maybe the best we can hope for is marginalisation and containment .. there again, thats how the holocaust started..??
The Catcher white sheet works rather well for me.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#23641 Jul 6, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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I would be curious to hear whether any posters have respect, even just a little bit, for barefoot and his views.
Anybody?
Hmmm...

I doubt you'll get any takers (other than barefoot's socks).

After all, barefoot would first need to possess a modicum of credibility before anyone could respect the man and his views.

“free your mind.”

Since: Oct 10

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#23642 Jul 6, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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I canít see police internet spies on general and open internet sites, certainly not in the western world. It would be much too expensive considering a single box of electronic tricks can do the job of perhaps 10000 or more such people, 24 hours a day 7 days a week and the box doesnít want time off for 6 weeks holiday and 3 grandmothers funerals a year.
Thatís not to say it doesnít happen, It certainly has happened on restricted sites as many a bewildered paedophile has discovered however this is probably triggered by the box of tricks in the first place.
The internet is to vast a system to police on an individual basis and the police departments that police it are finite
I'm not talking about your average bobby, more like undercover / MI5 etc....
there's likely much 'spying' we don't know about, especially with regard to national security..in a way those suspected of racial and /or religious unrest would be of even more relevance to the government than paedopiles.
Re which sites to choose for surveillance..I guess they need to be selective, practicallity wise.. as you say.!

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23643 Jul 6, 2012
Beatthesystem wrote:
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I said your arguements were dishonest..
you are being dishonest with yourself even if you don't realise it..
I did not say you were a liar.. because I consider you genuinely believe what you say, what you believe.
still not answered my question.. tick..
My arguments are generally honest.

You just see my arguments as dishonest because my arguments don't fit with your feelings.

You as most Brits live in a one track mind fantasy incapable of reality.

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23644 Jul 6, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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You have had your reply, now get it trough your thick racist head that I have every intention of ignoring anything and everything you write. You sicken me, you make we want to puke. It is you type of deliberately ignorant moron that tried to kill my children, now butt out
You ignore because you as most British people are desperate one track minded chimps.

You Brits live in a one track minded fantasy.

You are like desperate chimps attempting to be humans.

“free your mind.”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#23645 Jul 6, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
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If you claim to have a high IQ & high EQ.
You should be able to figure out why people would hate dumb people & degenerates.
Even a 10 year old might get it. LOL
It is not rocket science to why people might hate dumb people & degenerates.
Time's up..

so long, farewell, i need to say adieu..

white sheet applied.

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23646 Jul 6, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Is that your second guess? Tell you what, make your next two guesses in the next post.
If you fail to guess my race, you have to admit that you're wrong about your views on race/
You said Bollocks like a Brit.

You have the typical British Island trait of Brits where they ignore things when they don't like reality.

You are OBVIOUSLY a Brit.

You type like a Brit.
You act like a Brit.

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23647 Jul 6, 2012
Beatthesystem wrote:
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Time's up..
so long, farewell, i need to say adieu..
white sheet applied.
Derp derp.

I hate stupid people & degenerates because they are liability & detriment to society.

This is just what Black people are to American society a detriment & liability.

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