In America, atheists are still in the closet

Apr 11, 2012 Full story: Spiked 47,724

So do many other interest and identity groups. Complaint is our political lingua franca: it's what Occupiers, Tea Partiers, Wall Street titans, religious and irreligious people share.

Full Story

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23586 Jul 6, 2012
Why would anyone hate stupid people & degenerates?

We must have the best & brightest brains to ever live ponder this.

In order to figure out why people woould hate stupid people & degenerates.

We must bring back from the dead Nikola Tesla, Korolev, Wernher Von Braun, Thomas Edison, Da Vinci,Einstein, Neils Bohr, Theodor Kaluza, Max Planck, Ulam, Teller & Opperman, Newton, Theodor Porsche, Igor Sikorsky, Copernicus, Galileo , Gregor Mendel,

So they can study the reason why people would hate stupid people & degenerate.

We must do an extensive study for 500 years to find out why people hate stupid people & degenerates.

“free your mind.”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#23587 Jul 6, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
<quoted text>
Mississippi is the most Black state in the U.S LOL
Liberals use Mississippi as an example look at how it scores at the bottom of IQ's education performance
At the highest of teen pregnancies.
It must not be the Blacks right?
LOLOLOL
RACIST..
was I answering one of your socks..?

..takes white sheet out of tumble drier..
Johnny Gosch

Ishpeming, MI

#23588 Jul 6, 2012
Bush Gang and Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller worshipping Molech/Lucifer/Satan with "mock" child sacrifice at Jewish homosexual nudist compound at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California on Summer Solstice. Photo copyright Bohemian Club annual yearbook

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan,
who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie."
Christian Bible, Revelation 3:9

“He who gives his seed to Molech incurs no punishment.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 64a

“If one committed sodomy with a child of less than nine years, no guilt is incurred.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 54b

“It is permitted to consult by charm the spirits of oil and eggs, and make incantations.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 101a

“Women having intercourse with a beast can marry a priest, the act is but a mere wound.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Yebamoth 59a

“A harlot’s hire is permitted, for what the woman has received is legally a gift.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Abodah Zarah 62b-63a

“One can revile the Divine Name if mentally appling it to some other object.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 65a-b

One may declare:“Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 23a-23b

“If ten men smote a man with ten staves and he died, they are exempt from punishment.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 78a

“The Jew is the living God, God incarnate: he is the heavenly man.
The other men (non-Jew) are earthly, of inferior race.
They exist only to serve the Jew.
The Goyim (non Jew) are the cattle seed."
Jewish Cabala

"The whole concept of God is outdated; Judaism can function perfectly well without it.“
Rabbi Sherwin Wine

“Whoever gives any of his seed to Molech: he shall surely be put to death.”
Christian Bible, Leviticus 20:2

Bohemian Grove Exposed!- Jesus Is Savior
Bohemian Grove Exposed! The Dark Secrets of Bohemian Grove (Free Video —
1 Hour, 50 Minutes). You are listening to an actually MP3 recording of the ...

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi ...- 112k -
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#23589 Jul 6, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, "Bringmedinner" is morally bankrupt, and all too typical for his kind. He tells us that without his faith, he would have no reason not to murder. He obviously believes that murder is not wrong unless a punitive sky daddy sees it. And that's just the beginning of his depravity. He is happy to scapegoat skeptics, and he is happy to use the extremely derogatory and provocative language to do so.
What do we think about such people? What should we do about them? Politely tolerate them? The Jews don't think so. They and their Anti-Defamation League won't tolerate this kind of talk about them, and I'll bet that they know a thing or two about the consequences of condoning such speech.
Some say don't be confrontational. I ask, why not? Because somebody might be turned off? Who cares? Being a spineless doormat turns me off.
Who else tolerates this kind of talk? Seriously - who else let's others call them vile, corrupt, and abominable? I say we need to kick it up a notch, and take the aggressive role in such conversations. If one of these religites wants to libel you or me, give his moral indignation back to him in spades - in language that makes it clear what is and is not acceptable, and offers an example for others. Nobody should sit for that kind of hate speech that doesn't need to.
Iagree with most of that. however one should not pick out the most disgusting hatefilled and nastiness spewing claimant to be a Christian on here, and then say that is typical of Christians in general. There is lots of variety among Christians - some are much worse than others. picking out the worst and calling him typical is unfair to the nicer ones.

Some day we skeptics will have need of the most decent of the believers - in many religions - for coalitions on some cause or another, and having insulting an entire group of one faith is not a good recruiting method, or contact point for building a coalition. There are probably Christians for Obama, and atheists against him. I would rather alienate a damned rightwing extremist atheist than a believer in a silly theology who nonetheless has a rather good ethic, personally, politically, economically, socially, etc. Suppose a Christian believes in a stewardship attitude toward planet earth - its land, water, air. Isn't that person an opponent of the rip it up exploit it make money off of it type person - whether that person is a fundie or an atheist? Do you think all atheists care about the fate of the planet, or humans, or children, animals, ecosystems, water, air? I don't. Atheism is nothing more or less than nonbelief in a god, and no fine moral feelings are required of an atheist. Just because most of us on topix who are atheists have a high ethical philosophy of caring, does not mean it is typical of all atheists, either!

I am happy to have friendly conversations with rightwingers on politics who are atheists, regarding the nonsense of some theological point - but the human being who believes in that silly point, and is kind and caring, and wants policies that are peaceloving and for social justice - is the better human being.

It is the consequences of the belief system that are so horrible, in the case of those who have these horrid beliefs and horrid policy views - the folks we mostly see on topix. It is the kind of world that will result if such folks vote their belief systems that we dread. Not all Christians have views that lead to horrid ethics. and not all atheists have good ethics, either.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#23590 Jul 6, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, "Bringmedinner" is morally bankrupt, and all too typical for his kind.
Pot kettle black.

IANUS is morally bankrupt and (here) proved to be a liar.

Dirty hands...

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23591 Jul 6, 2012
Beatthesystem wrote:
<quoted text>
RACIST..
was I answering one of your socks..?
..takes white sheet out of tumble drier..
Yeah it is racist to point out that Mississippi is the most Black state.

It is not prejudice to hate on White Mississippians as ignorant, inbred hillbillies.

Got you ;-)

derpa de doo
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#23592 Jul 6, 2012
it was madscot I was criticizing, not you. you had quoted his nasty comment. when you call him "all too typical for his kind" and that is correct, only "his kind" should not be taken to mean all Christians, and I do not think you intended that way. There are even some nicer evangelicals and fundamentalists here and there - including some who are environmentalists, and we need to be careful not to imply all fundies are evil (brainwashed maybe, stupid regarding religion maybe, but not necessarily morally bad persons). I really do not think you disagree with me, and I did not want you to think I was attacking you. I like you even when I challenge you and disagree a bit - such as on wording nonbelief as too hard a hard atheism. I like it that you are a strong participant on these discussions.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, "Bringmedinner" is morally bankrupt, and all too typical for his kind. He tells us that without his faith, he would have no reason not to murder. He obviously believes that murder is not wrong unless a punitive sky daddy sees it. And that's just the beginning of his depravity. He is happy to scapegoat skeptics, and he is happy to use the extremely derogatory and provocative language to do so.
What do we think about such people? What should we do about them? Politely tolerate them? The Jews don't think so. They and their Anti-Defamation League won't tolerate this kind of talk about them, and I'll bet that they know a thing or two about the consequences of condoning such speech.
Some say don't be confrontational. I ask, why not? Because somebody might be turned off? Who cares? Being a spineless doormat turns me off.
Who else tolerates this kind of talk? Seriously - who else let's others call them vile, corrupt, and abominable? I say we need to kick it up a notch, and take the aggressive role in such conversations. If one of these religites wants to libel you or me, give his moral indignation back to him in spades - in language that makes it clear what is and is not acceptable, and offers an example for others. Nobody should sit for that kind of hate speech that doesn't need to.

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23593 Jul 6, 2012
Beatthesystem wrote:
<quoted text>
keep thinking.. tick.. tick..
No I lied. You already said it I am a dishonest liar. I lied about hating stupid people & degenerates.

I actually love stupid people & degenerates "giggle" ^_^ hi hi

Our U.S prison system is filled with these great lovely stupid people & degenerates "giggle" I love them

I just want to go to the U.S prison system & give all of the U.S prisoners a big hug & kiss for their contribution to this great nation!
"giggle'
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#23594 Jul 6, 2012
oops,not clear - madscot was the one who was nasty to bringmedinner, who is also nasty and a bad guy. madscot was arrogant and obscene, and he overgeneralized, but he was against the bad guy! I never met madscot before and will try to argue with him directly,and will probably get cursed out for my efforts. at least it is another hard atheist making a fool of himself being nasty - I haven't found a nasty agnostic atheist, and hope I never do.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#23595 Jul 6, 2012
Johnny Gosch wrote:
Bush Gang and Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller worshipping Molech/Lucifer/Satan with "mock" child sacrifice at Jewish homosexual nudist compound at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California on Summer Solstice. Photo copyright Bohemian Club annual yearbook
"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan,
who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie."
Christian Bible, Revelation 3:9
“He who gives his seed to Molech incurs no punishment.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 64a
“If one committed sodomy with a child of less than nine years, no guilt is incurred.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 54b
“It is permitted to consult by charm the spirits of oil and eggs, and make incantations.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 101a
“Women having intercourse with a beast can marry a priest, the act is but a mere wound.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Yebamoth 59a
“A harlot’s hire is permitted, for what the woman has received is legally a gift.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Abodah Zarah 62b-63a
“One can revile the Divine Name if mentally appling it to some other object.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 65a-b
One may declare:“Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 23a-23b
“If ten men smote a man with ten staves and he died, they are exempt from punishment.”
Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 78a
“The Jew is the living God, God incarnate: he is the heavenly man.
The other men (non-Jew) are earthly, of inferior race.
They exist only to serve the Jew.
The Goyim (non Jew) are the cattle seed."
Jewish Cabala
"The whole concept of God is outdated; Judaism can function perfectly well without it.“
Rabbi Sherwin Wine
“Whoever gives any of his seed to Molech: he shall surely be put to death.”
Christian Bible, Leviticus 20:2
Bohemian Grove Exposed!- Jesus Is Savior
Bohemian Grove Exposed! The Dark Secrets of Bohemian Grove (Free Video —
1 Hour, 50 Minutes). You are listening to an actually MP3 recording of the ...
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi ...- 112k -
you do realize this sounds a bit extreme, and not adequately documented. you would need a lot of documentation to convince people. one interesting thing you should check on if you are into the details of this thing - the Bohemiam place especially - is that Bill Casey apparently claimed to have been there when some folks thought they saw him in Europe meeting with Iranians arranging to have them not release the US hostages while Carter was President. I always wondered about that. Was Casey supposedly there in 1980 in the summer?
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#23596 Jul 6, 2012
straa wrote:
In world war one it took britain six months just to train the Americans in modern warfare
are you sure you want to criticize Americans to make a case against that nut you are arguing with? are you sure you want to put yourself on his level by discussing anything with him?

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23597 Jul 6, 2012
Beatthesystem wrote:
<quoted text>
the purpose of evolving into more conscious and aware human beings is to get beyond that primitive stage.. that was my point..
As you see it primitive stage is actually more logical. It is social darwinism in orgins.

The so called "progressive" more egalitarian & tolerance driven "anti primitive" as you call it are actually highly illogical.

They illogically put others & other groups & races above themselves.

They illogically support socialism for the low end which slowly promotes dysgenics & regression in genetics & as a culture in general.

As the great aR1An Mcyenean Aristotle said.

Tolerance & Apathy is the last virtue of a dying society.

Here we are with Tolerance, Apathy & a dying society.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#23598 Jul 6, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm looking at you, old bigdickhead racist with nothing to contribute except hatred.
Hey, I’m not the one calling myself bigdickhead, that’s the racist moron we have on here, try running his name through google translate (hint, Polish > English) to see what a fool he is making of you. He readily admits to being racist, perhaps that sort of sick hatred is just the sort of thing that turns you one.

Then you go on to call me racist, all that does is totally f*cks up your own credibility simply because it proves that you know bugger all about me and shoes you are just calling names for spite.

As for nothing to contribute, I’ve never come across any one who can counter E=MC^2 versus Revelation 19:6, lets face it you are here so no omnipotent entity can me. Hey, even butt crack gets all wound up with it.

The Tanahk story of the father of the person you call jesus is a doozie too, verified by the Roman archives, the gostic gospels and even some early Christians.

What appears to be the problem is that you have no answer to any of my points so you tend to ignore then and go into spite mode. The thing is, I don’t actually care about you ignorance and venom

Talking about venom, lets go into your hatred accusation. Nope, I don’t think I have the hatred emotion, if I do then it’s very much in the background and I can’t say I’ve ever noticed it. I have never started any bout of name calling but I wilfully reciprocate, just as I do with you. Such a pity that you don’t have the bottle to accept payback, you’d make a much more entertaining adversary

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#23599 Jul 6, 2012
HugeKielbasa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes you Brits praise fighting against Totalitarian Hitler.
Now Brits create thought crimes of anyone with racist views.
I really think British people are some of the most retarded people I have seen.
Brits praise Totalitarian Oliver Cromwell as the best of British leaders.
Brits praise destroying Totalitarian Nazis.
While Brits praise thought crime totalitarian rules again racist thought crimes.
Ignored on the grounds that your bigoted and racist opinion is irrelevant and you are f*cking clueless

Since: Apr 12

Pittston, PA

#23600 Jul 6, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Your link to "skeptics" are not skeptics.
http://www.rense.com/general70/smart.htm
Your link is an opinion poll which indicates that college is not necessarily a path to skepticism. So what?
Check my link again, it is an interesting article.

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_haunted_bra...

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#23601 Jul 6, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not the bigot who is speaking for others, NotBot.
Look in a mirror.
Oh yes you are. But as they say, a pig can’t smell itself

Since: Jun 12

Brewster, NY

#23602 Jul 6, 2012
Beatthesystem wrote:
<quoted text>
whats going down in rural mississipi..?
The whole left wing demonization of Southern Whites are inbred racist ignorant hillbillies is very "feeling" oriented & not very "fact" oriented.

Actually the North East U.S is the hate crime capital of the U.S

See these map. New Jersey is the hate crime capital of the U.S

http://www.google.com/imgres...

http://www.google.com/imgres...

As far as inbred goes?
Actually Southern Whites are more likely to be mixed race actually.

As far as stupid. Well yeah Southern Whites in the U.S tend to be slightly more stupid than Northern Whites.

Southern Whites in the U.S are mostly of British ethnic orgins afterall.
So stupidity is to be expected.

Stupidity is far greater in Blacks though.(Something the Left wing conviently ignores)

Oh yeah the Left also ignores Blacks are more likely to be religious, creationists & homophobes too.

I really get the impression Left wingers typically don't know what they are doing.
They are guided too much by "feelings" rather than "logical direction"

“free your mind.”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#23603 Jul 6, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe the problem is money and perhaps even the will to act. The police must act in the case of paedophilia or there will be riots. Racism is not seen as so harmful so receives a lower priority. The same technology and methods can be used in both cases.
Most people don’t understand how the technology works, it not a case of thought police. Just consider the internet traffic at any one moment and how many “thought police” would be required to monitor it. So there must be more precise method, electronic filters looks for certain word combinations. A hit is tagged and examined. All others packets (the internet works by sending packets) are ignored. I don’t know what words are looked for but maybe this post will be tagged because it contains- police, racism and paedophilia.
When a police helicopter keeps me awake at night because it’s searching for a criminal, I do not feel any intrusion although I can feel a little grumpy from lack of sleep the nest day. In the same way do not feel any intrusion about my internet communication being read. I put it on topix to be read so no problem. As you say, nothing to hide.
Yes racism is still around but at least for in the case of physical intrusion we now have the law.
i agree with your observations and thoughts here..
There is less tolerance for paedophilia than for racism..
fair enough, one might say..
there are more racist people than paedophiles hence the denouncement of the latter.
Re the internet..looking for word combinations would help, also I wonder if there are already police 'spies' on these sites, posing as paedophiles / racist bigots / any other undesirable group..?. The spies could 'befriend' the suspects, and hence find further information ..hey, sounds like an inteesting job !
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#23604 Jul 6, 2012
Nontheist wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a shame they passed laws against burning witches, atheists and all that other stuff Christianity is supposed to kill, eliminate, or persecute, eh?
What good is Christianity without the righteous hate?
We could be converting godless heathens, plucking out eyes and all kinds of good holy stuff if it wasn't for crazy idea of equality.
LOL....Nobody Wants To Hurt You, Quit playing The Victim.

Now, Truth Be Told....I See No One Demonstrating Against Atheists.

And Christians Just Want To Be Left Alone.

What I Do See Is Constant Attacks Against Anything Christian.

This Leaves You To Be A Liar, Or A Hypocrite, Which Is it ?
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#23605 Jul 6, 2012
" Stay Thirsty My Friends "

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

US News Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Obama: 'Revving' economy calls for higher wages 18 min Batch 37 Pain Is ... 126
Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 19 min fetch almighty 1,124,295
The President has failed us (Jun '12) 20 min NTRPRNR1 269,240
'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate (Oct '10) 25 min Le Duped 158,542
Romney Leads Scattered 2016 GOP Field, Clinton ... 26 min Elise Gingerich 18
Evolution vs. Creation (Jul '11) 26 min Chimney1 120,520
Fauci: Ebola response system still needs improv... 27 min Le Duped 4
Obama wants an election about the economy, not him 46 min Smack Down 443
Ebola commentary desperately needs clarification 1 hr Smack Down 27

US News People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE