Busch blocks vote on marriage

It amazes me how afraid the Democrats are of having Marylander's vote on a constitutional amendment banning homosexual marriage. They think Republicans will come out in droves to vote for it and in turn elect a Republican into contested offices. I have an idea why don't the Democrat's stop supporting such a minority of homosexuals and focus on what the majority of Marylander's want (to keep traditional marriage between one man and one woman) then Republicans won't feel the need to overwhelmingly vote to push out the stubborn non listening Democrats on this issue.

Ken, I couldn't agree more. As a young, highly educated Marylander, I believe that our government officials should spend more time honing in on what the majorty of our citizens need. We don't need homosexual marriages fogging up an already disgusting view of what marriage should be for our youth. This area was founded on Catholicism. I am by no means Catholic (Protestant), but I'm fairly positive homosexual marriages was not what our founding fathers had in mind when they settled at St. Clemen's.

Ken Simms wrote:

It amazes me how afraid the Democrats are of having Marylander's vote on a constitutional amendment banning homosexual marriage. They think Republicans will come out in droves to vote for it and in turn elect a Republican into contested offices. I have an idea why don't the Democrat's stop supporting such a minority of homosexuals and focus on what the majority of Marylander's want (to keep traditional marriage between one man and one woman) then Republicans won't feel the need to overwhelmingly vote to push out the stubborn non listening Democrats on this issue.

Nicole wrote:

Ken, I couldn't agree more. As a young, highly educated Marylander, I believe that our government officials should spend more time honing in on what the majorty of our citizens need. We don't need homosexual marriages fogging up an already disgusting view of what marriage should be for our youth. This area was founded on Catholicism. I am by no means Catholic (Protestant), but I'm fairly positive homosexual marriages was not what our founding fathers had in mind when they settled at St. Clemen's.

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please, naxt they'll want to vote for uppity blacks marrying wite folkes. get a grip on life dear.

Nicole wrote:

Ken, I couldn't agree more. As a young, highly educated Marylander, I believe that our government officials should spend more time honing in on what the majorty of our citizens need. We don't need homosexual marriages fogging up an already disgusting view of what marriage should be for our youth. This area was founded on Catholicism. I am by no means Catholic (Protestant), but I'm fairly positive homosexual marriages was not what our founding fathers had in mind when they settled at St. Clemen's.

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Actually, Nicole, you're right: "The state of Maryland was founded by George Calvert, Lord Baltimore, as a haven where Catholics could live without fear of persecution for their religious beliefs."

It's ironic, that your state was founded by a group of people who were escaping RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION! Because one group had a different belife system than another. Oh, a belief system that is a CHOICE! YOU have the freedom to choose and practice whatever religion you want. Yet, you want to have your cake at eat it too!

Why should gay people be persecuted (forbidden from enjoying more than 1,300 Local, State and Federal rights and benefits afforded only to Male/Female couples) because they are gay? Oh? Because being gay is a choice? You mean like the same choice you have when it comes to religion?

Now, I DO NOT belive that being gay is a choice - but for arguments sake, let's say it is! SO WHAT? If i choose to be Lutheran in a Catholic state, i have that right. Your state was founded by people who just wanted to live in a place where they were free to life the life and religion they chose - without the persection by the MAJORITY (in that case Protestants).

History is a powerful teacher if we choose to reference it! Marriage between consenting adults is coming!

Fair is fair. Equal but separate is not equal - it's separate.

In 50 years, we are going to look back at this now, stopping gay people from marrying, as ignorant as not letting african americans or women vote.

It is not the Governments job to regulate our social lives, and they should have no say whatsoever in who we fall in love with, what we decide to do with our bodies, or tell us what to do in any way shape or form, unless it poses an immediate threat or danger to society in general.

Its people like all of you that make the world call us the new age nazis.

Call or label me whatever you want. I do not support gay rights. I do not believe in them. I do not want to see them. I want my children to be able to grow up in world with morals and values. Gary was right in saying it is not the governments job to regulate our social lives. It is "We the People" who must regulate our indivivual lives.

Funny enough, while all of the hype is on the equality of homosexuals, no regular media will admit that several studies have been done on homosexuality, and it has been PROVEN that homosexuality is caused my psycholigical problems. It is basically a scream for help, much like repeated suicide attempts.

I say don't support it, cure it.

Show me one study that hasn't been disproved by much more recent, more thorough studies conducted by neutral parties who weren't out to "prove" that homosexuality is an illness. You won't find one. Early studies of homosexuality focused on men in mental institutions, who obviously would have mental problems.

You should probably talk to the psychologists and psychiatrists before you try to quote studies about mental illness as they removed homosexuality from their lists way back in the 70s. They are the experts in the human mind after all.

Mike wrote:

Call or label me whatever you want. I do not support gay rights. I do not believe in them. I do not want to see them. I want my children to be able to grow up in world with morals and values. Gary was right in saying it is not the governments job to regulate our social lives. It is "We the People" who must regulate our individual lives.

Funny enough, while all of the hype is on the equality of homosexuals, no regular media will admit that several studies have been done on homosexuality, and it has been PROVEN that homosexuality is caused my psycholigical problems. It is basically a scream for help, much like repeated suicide attempts.

I say don't support it, cure it.

I guess you think it's the government's job to regulate the social lives of gay people but not anyone else? You say you think we should regulate our own lives and then you won't allow us to do it. If we want to get married you think the government should prevent it. THAT is government interference in people's private social lives. I won't label you anything, only to say you have an exceedingly limited mental capacity if you seriously are trying to use the argument that givernment shouldn't interferre in people's lives as a justification for such interference.

I don't care about you, I don't want to have anything to do with you or your family, and hope I never in my life meet you in person. So why can't you leave me the heck alone? How would my getting married affect you at all?

As far as your alleged studies and cures and whatnot,*$!@ off.

Mike wrote:

Call or label me whatever you want. I do not support gay rights. I do not believe in them. I do not want to see them. I want my children to be able to grow up in world with morals and values. Gary was right in saying it is not the governments job to regulate our social lives. It is "We the People" who must regulate our indivivual lives.

Funny enough, while all of the hype is on the equality of homosexuals, no regular media will admit that several studies have been done on homosexuality, and it has been PROVEN that homosexuality is caused my psycholigical problems. It is basically a scream for help, much like repeated suicide attempts.

I say don't support it, cure it.

Mike wrote:

Call or label me whatever you want. I do not support gay rights. I do not believe in them. I do not want to see them. I want my children to be able to grow up in world with morals and values. Gary was right in saying it is not the governments job to regulate our social lives. It is "We the People" who must regulate our indivivual lives.

Funny enough, while all of the hype is on the equality of homosexuals, no regular media will admit that several studies have been done on homosexuality, and it has been PROVEN that homosexuality is caused my psycholigical problems. It is basically a scream for help, much like repeated suicide attempts.

I say don't support it, cure it.

I want my SON to grow up in a world of morals and values too. Is it morally right for a convicted murderer to be able to get married?

Is it MORALLY RIGHT for a man who is convicted of raping and torturing women to walk into his local town hall and get a marriage certificate?

I want a world where when a man and woman say I DO, it means I DO - so i think divorced should be outlawed!

Look, you can CHOOSE to not listen. You can CHOOOSE to not care about others.

But I ask you this - are you teaching your children that its MORAL to hate and hold down others that you don't like or who's lifestyle you don't condone?

It's parents like you who raise children like the one that walked into a gay bar in MASS 2 weeks ago and put an AXE to the heads of 2 bar patrons and shot others!

Hate, no matter how you mask it, is NOT MORAL nor is it a value that will stand the scruitity of an open and free society!

Ken Simms wrote:

It amazes me how afraid the Democrats are of having Marylander's vote on a constitutional amendment banning homosexual marriage. They think Republicans will come out in droves to vote for it and in turn elect a Republican into contested offices. I have an idea why don't the Democrat's stop supporting such a minority of homosexuals and focus on what the majority of Marylander's want (to keep traditional marriage between one man and one woman) then Republicans won't feel the need to overwhelmingly vote to push out the stubborn non listening Democrats on this issue.

How dare the Democrats do what is right rather than what is popular!!! And of all things, civil rights? The end of segregation was unpopular too, but politicians put an end to that too. Stupid politicians allowing people to be free regardless of who they are. It makes me sick. The only people that should have rights are white, heterosexual men. Anyone else is just asking for special rights.

Nicole wrote:

Ken, I couldn't agree more. As a young, highly educated Marylander, I believe that our government officials should spend more time honing in on what the majorty of our citizens need. We don't need homosexual marriages fogging up an already disgusting view of what marriage should be for our youth. This area was founded on Catholicism. I am by no means Catholic (Protestant), but I'm fairly positive homosexual marriages was not what our founding fathers had in mind when they settled at St. Clemen's.

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Pardon me but who legislated a Maryland law that requires ALL Marylanders to abide by a behavior rule that fit their behavior comity three hundred years ago!You contend that you are "highly educated" yet your comments do not reflect such a superior intellect!

Also, who cares what our founding fathers wanted. They were nowhere near as educated as us. This is the future, and we should be treating every person on earth with the same respect. It does not matter what lifestyle they so choose.

If we don't let the gays get married, we are no better then the nazis.

My take on this, being a straight male, is this, if gay people want to get married, thats up to them, not the gov't. I am one of the most right leaning, gun loving,a plank owner in the NRA. However this whole debate about gays getting married is a waste of time. Its right up there with abortion. None of my buisness.
If it makes them folks happy to be married so be it. All I ask and I ask this from all folks, not just gays, is no public displays of affection.

Im glad to see there are other people who take views such as myself.

Its amazing, in this day and age we still have ignorant individual like you. Trailer park and all. Its a shame an african american can die for this country, but lord forgive us if we want the same rights as you, sir. Our founding fathers fought for civil liberties but waited over 100+ years before they gave it to everyone. It was only of concern when "the white men" felt mistreated. If the United States wants to act like the role model for the world maybe we should get off of our high horse and respect the individual rights we have fought for and stop criticizing nations who tend to follow our sad example. Master!!!

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How dare the Democrats do what is right rather than what is popular!!! And of all things, civil rights? The end of segregation was unpopular too, but politicians put an end to that too. Stupid politicians allowing people to be free regardless of who they are. It makes me sick. The only people that should have rights are white, heterosexual men. Anyone else is just asking for special rights.

Homosexuals do have equal rights in this Country, even when it comes to marriage. WHY? Because it is not the role of the Government to give us permission to marry. Marriage is ordained by God between one man and one woman. It was an institution before Government existed so, we all have our rights violated by the Government trying to require us to get a license, i.e. permission from them to get married. God has not, does not and never will recognize "GAY MARRIAGE". If the Government decides to it will be a further usurpation of our unalienable rights anyway!!!

I agree that down the road our descendents will think the foolishness over individual sexual orientation was absurd.

Homosexuality is one more natural expression of human sexuality, and is no more or less disgusting than heterosexual expressions.

It is not a mental illness, nor is it contagious. It just is. The worry of any society should be in promoting families based upon love and respect yielding a basic responsibility for rearing children to become ethical, contributing citizens.

Heterosexual relationships, including marriage, are failing miserably. The idea of having a constitutional ban on a committment made by consensual adults is outrageously archaic. What next shall "We the People" decide to ban that does not meet our narrow guidelines. Guidelines provided by some group's deity belief.

Our founders neither thought unlanded men, women or blacks were "of the people" but these groups prevailed and are now included.

What rights are going to be taken away from those of you who are willing to deny Gays the right to marry? Of what are you really afraid? How does gay marriage have any effect upon heterosexual marriage or upon your children's attitudes about Gays?

I suspect our kids only reflect the prejudices which we instill in them. Homophobia dies hard, but it will die, and like all foolish misconceptions, we will realize that acceptance of what does not cause suffering and of what promotes happiness is the best course for all humanity.

So chill, parents. If your child is homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual, I am sure you want them to be happy, to pursue a satisfying relationship with the person they love and respect, to be gainfully employed in a fulfilling job, to be a part of your life, and to benefit from the rights our Constitution and Bill of Rights gives to all citizens.

The idea of your finding your child's sexual orientation disgusting will only reap unhappiness and suffering on your family and on them.

Hopefully my decendents will be taught the truth and know that Homosexuality is an abomination to God and they will care about others in society who do not know the truth and will try to save them from Hell. I've always said the second worst thing that can happen to a person is they go to Hell; the worst is, while they're there the child(ren) tap them on the shoulder and say, "why didn't you tell us the truth"?

Jeanne wrote:

I agree that down the road our descendents will think the foolishness over individual sexual orientation was absurd.

Homosexuality is one more natural expression of human sexuality, and is no more or less disgusting than heterosexual expressions.

It is not a mental illness, nor is it contagious. It just is. The worry of any society should be in promoting families based upon love and respect yielding a basic responsibility for rearing children to become ethical, contributing citizens.

Heterosexual relationships, including marriage, are failing miserably. The idea of having a constitutional ban on a committment made by consensual adults is outrageously archaic. What next shall "We the People" decide to ban that does not meet our narrow guidelines. Guidelines provided by some group's deity belief.

Our founders neither thought unlanded men, women or blacks were "of the people" but these groups prevailed and are now included.

What rights are going to be taken away from those of you who are willing to deny Gays the right to marry? Of what are you really afraid? How does gay marriage have any effect upon heterosexual marriage or upon your children's attitudes about Gays?

I suspect our kids only reflect the prejudices which we instill in them. Homophobia dies hard, but it will die, and like all foolish misconceptions, we will realize that acceptance of what does not cause suffering and of what promotes happiness is the best course for all humanity.

So chill, parents. If your child is homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual, I am sure you want them to be happy, to pursue a satisfying relationship with the person they love and respect, to be gainfully employed in a fulfilling job, to be a part of your life, and to benefit from the rights our Constitution and Bill of Rights gives to all citizens.

The idea of your finding your child's sexual orientation disgusting will only reap unhappiness and suffering on your family and on them.

God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. So if Adam can marry Steve. I want to marry my poodle fluffy. Its the same thing.

Marriage is a holy bond between man and woman. For love caring, companionship, and children. Last time I checked a man cannot carry, or give birth to a child.

Jeanne said it correctly, "The worry of any society should be in promoting families based upon love and respect yielding a basic responsibility for rearing children to become ethical, contributing citizens."

To add to that comment, children need to be raised being taught morals, ethics, and common sense.

My children understand and think that homosexuality is disgusting. And that is from an 8 and 11 year old.

And this being a free country, and I am able to speak my mind, if my child came up to me and declaired their homosexuality, they would be promptly removed from my house and never invited back. Until at least they get the psycholigical help they would be so desperately asking for.

Mike wrote:

God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. So if Adam can marry Steve. I want to marry my poodle fluffy. Its the same thing.

Marriage is a holy bond between man and woman. For love caring, companionship, and children. Last time I checked a man cannot carry, or give birth to a child.

Jeanne said it correctly, "The worry of any society should be in promoting families based upon love and respect yielding a basic responsibility for rearing children to become ethical, contributing citizens."

To add to that comment, children need to be raised being taught morals, ethics, and common sense.

My children understand and think that homosexuality is disgusting. And that is from an 8 and 11 year old.

And this being a free country, and I am able to speak my mind, if my child came up to me and declaired their homosexuality, they would be promptly removed from my house and never invited back. Until at least they get the psycholigical help they would be so desperately asking for.

Mike, you are free to create and live in your rigidly defined world. You are not free to use your religious beliefs to legislate against the civil rights of other adult, taxpaying citizens who contribute greatly to every aspect of our economy, and are an integral part of our society.

That you would ridicule the desire of two consenting adults to declare and formalize their love is quite un-christian like -- the kind of cruelty and intolerance that Jesus preached against. That you would compare a free-thinking adult human being to a fluffy poodle is unbelievably stupid.

Does it occur to you that you are teaching your children to become angry, judgemental, uneducated people? Is that your goal?

In closing, may I ask what you have done lately to help repair the horrible state of heterosexual marriage? Are you working to end spousal abuse, or lower the divorce rate? Maybe you should help clean your own house before coming after the 5% of gay Americans who want to live their lives in peace and love. Perhaps those last three words are alien concepts to you.

I fear for the spiritual development of your children. Believe me, there are millions of gay people who have been smitten by their parents. Ironically, not having hateful, closed-minded people in their lives has made many of them much happier.

Please keep your nasty thoughts about gay people to yourself. You speak from ignorance.