Hearing for children at polygamist retreat grinds to a halt

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Aquarius-WY wrote:

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So the accused ones are free and the children are in jail. This IS twisted.
I know, I know you call it 'protective custody'...

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Aquarius-WY wrote:

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It is for sure and for certain that the little ones need their mothers...NOT the state.

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truespeak wrote:

Wow. One 16 year old girl calls and says she was abused so the Gov kidnaps 416 children.
Well at least they didnt incinerate them like at Waco.

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bryts wrote:

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Treated like what? These are suspects in a criminal investigation. They are now having a trial. I'm not sure what you're upset about. Do you think they should not have a trial and just let them all go? They are not in jail now.
They had legal probable cause to enter the compound (they had a warrant, that comes from the judicial system). They are now reviewing evidence.
In ALL cases involving child protection. The children are removed from the parents while the investigation takes place.
And this has happened to me. I was questioned regarding a minor injury to a child under my and my girlfriends care. The child was removed from the parents until child protection determined it was safe. I did cooperate, and didn't cry out that my rights were being violated. Since I had nothing to hide, I answered the questions and they quickly reunited the child with their parents.

Blasphemer wrote:

"Religion is based ... mainly on fear ... fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand.... My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race." [Bertrand Russell]

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Hannah Rebekah wrote:

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Sounds like a lot of gossip going around and people need to understand that whats being written isn't necessarily the whole truth nor is it portraying things accurately. I'm from Utah and many of the things thrown around on these forums are just not true about these people. It's sad that they are guilty already in the court of public opinion.
They are a very devout, honest, faithful, humble Godly people who happen to believe in polygamy. I can't say if abuse is going on as it goes on in all walks of life. But I do believe that many if not most are not guilty. And who knows maybe no one is guilty. I hope they get their things cleared up and maybe they will put into place self imposed standards that will keep them from future events such as this round-up.

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There is evidence or they would not be able to take 410 children and obviously the judge felt it was warranted to take the phones away and he did. Why do you feel it necessary to bring up Waco when there are obviously children being raped from the time the girls are 11 and up and we all know that it is probably before then. And no one has mentioned the children with the deformities and the brain damage from the incest. There is a very good reporter our there who has been on this for the last ten years and he speaks of the children who are hidden away.
Try defending something worth defending.

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Steve Lewis wrote:

Something is not right at that place.

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EJF Member wrote:

"The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation." - Adolph Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Hannah Rebekah wrote:

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I find weird people in mainstream Society who go out of their way to form an identity but just don't cut it, is that also evidence of abuse...because I think it is sure weird. And some even act weird as well and don't know how to speak or communicate very well.
Examples of weird in my book:
numerous body piercings
tattoos, especially the extreme
high spiked pointed hair or other extreme does.
weird florescence colored hair or strange colors
strange or very immodest clothing
Get the point? So what do looks prove?
Nothing at all...Zero...Zilch...Nada
Weird is not against the law!!! So the next time you see someone in mainstream who is weird I hope you think about your judgments on these poor people. They are no more weird than the Amish or the ones I mentioned above. They are just different and the last I checked that was not against the law or an indication they were involved in abuse. So if you want to talk facts about abuse then lets see you quote the laws that have been broken and give the proof...until then these people are innocent until proven guilty. They are U.S. citizens just like you.

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LALA wrote:

No.. they are not jailed... please understand that these children may have been emotionally and sexually abused... We as Americans cannot turn our back on them and allow this to continue. We must investigate and while it is being investigated, they children cannot stay with the accused abusers. That would just be absurd! This process is not as slow as a criminal case and the well being of the children comes first.. NOT the rights of the parents who MAY have committed the abuse. When you rape a child, and the child crys rape.. you lose your rights to that child while the authorities check to see if really did happen...
Believe me I am the first to cryout against the atrocities of our government.. But I feel that the DCFS are doing the very best they can.. The FBI and police were involved WITH DCFS... Ask any DCFS worker, they take police even if they THINK there may be ANY trouble...
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Aquarius-WY wrote:

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Isn't New Jersey a long way from Texas?
I suppose you have proof?? NOT!

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redneck wrote:

<quoted text>Religion is so based on fear. Do you know the 10 commandments? Read the 1st 3...

PROV1X81 wrote:

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are you married with children hannah?