Dr Zakir Naik invites Pope Benedict XVI for open interfaith dia...

My GOD is your GOD ! The very same divine creator of ALL that we see and attempt to understand. I simply believe in Christ... for how else is it that our GOD could understand the plight of his creation without experiencing it first hand... to inspect and see if we were truly worth saving... a prospect that the jury is still out on these days i would say. The Roman Catholice Church and it's questionable idolization of Mary makes no sense to me... except one thing... since the beginning,... only TWO people had the power... the STRONGEST... and those that spoke to GOD! It's always been a battle... and i will say this... absolute power corrupts ABSOLUTELY. Christians are NOT pagans... it's just a broader expansion of the same GOD that you know as ALL powerful. Ah Salam ah Lech em habbibi (spelling)

I am a soldier... a defender of liberty for all... and a friend to those thath choose to be strong enough to be friends.

Abraham wrote:

Dream on.The fastest growing religion in the world now is ISLAM!
Who wants to believe in the religion which has a confusing and illogical concept.For a start take the word TRINITY. Three-in one god - son god, father god and holy ghost. For god's sake can someone tell me who is the real god of this twisted religion? Added to this confusion, the christians also worship Mary(pbuh) as goddess.Am I not right in saying that the christians are pagan idol worshippers? Imagine people believing in a religion that says god incarnated to human form and then get killed and crucified!<quoted text>

My GOD is your GOD ! The very same divine creator of ALL that we see and attempt to understand. I simply believe in Christ... for how else is it that our GOD could understand the plight of his creation without experiencing it first hand... to inspect and see if we were truly worth saving... a prospect that the jury is still out on these days i would say. The Roman Catholice Church and it's questionable idolization of Mary makes no sense to me... except one thing... since the beginning,... only TWO people had the power... the STRONGEST... and those that spoke to GOD! It's always been a battle... and i will say this... absolute power corrupts ABSOLUTELY. Christians are NOT pagans... it's just a broader expansion of the same GOD that you know as ALL powerful. Ah Salam ah Lech em habbibi (spelling)

I am a soldier... a defender of liberty for all... and a friend to those thath choose to be strong enough to be friends.

Joshua wrote:

My GOD is your GOD ! The very same divine creator of ALL that we see and attempt to understand. I simply believe in Christ... for how else is it that our GOD could understand the plight of his creation without experiencing it first hand... to inspect and see if we were truly worth saving... a prospect that the jury is still out on these days i would say. The Roman Catholice Church and it's questionable idolization of Mary makes no sense to me... except one thing... since the beginning,... only TWO people had the power... the STRONGEST... and those that spoke to GOD! It's always been a battle... and i will say this... absolute power corrupts ABSOLUTELY. Christians are NOT pagans... it's just a broader expansion of the same GOD that you know as ALL powerful. Ah Salam ah Lech em habbibi (spelling)
I am a soldier... a defender of liberty for all... and a friend to those thath choose to be strong enough to be friends.
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Perhaps they are choosing the God of the Pharaoh, such is written in Exodus..

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses,“I AM THAT I AM” and He said,“Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.” 3:15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus you shall say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your Fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you; this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, See I have made thee a god to Pharaoh and Aaron thy brother shall be thy Prophet….skipping time….. 8:16 And the Lord said unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch out thy rod, and smite the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt 8:17 And they did so; for Aaron stretched out his hand with his rod, and smote the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt 8:18 And the magician did so, with their enchantments to bring forth lice, but they could not; so there were lice upon man and upon beast.

8:19 And the magicians said unto the Pharaoh This is the finger of God; and Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, and he harkened not unto them, as the Lord had said. 8:21 Else, if thou wilt not let my people go, behold, I will send swarms of flies upon thee, and upon they servants, and upon thy people, and into they houses and the houses of the Egyptians shall be full of swarms of flies, and also the ground whereon they are. 8:25 And Pharaoh called for Moses and for Aaron and said; Go Ye, sacrifice to your God in the land 8:26 And Moses said, it is not meet so to do; for we shall sacrifice the abomination (a bomb in a nation) of the Egyptians to the Lord our God; lo shall we sacrifice the abominations of the Egyptians before their eyes, and will they not stone us?

I am not sure who the God of the Pharaoh is, but one can easily see who does the stonings....

Hindu religion should not be taken seriously.Hindus worship human beings, monkeys, snakes, rats, cows, elephants, and stones.In fact they pray to anything that moves.No wonder they are easily convertable.

RealHindu wrote:

<quoted text>
I am a Hindu and I am proud to be one.
We shall NEVER allow Christians to take over our Hindu Daalit brothers. They are trying to convert them through nasty propaganda. We know our real enemy is Christians. They took over our Mother India held us hostage took our Kohinoor and all the wealth. Then they divided the land and gave it to their Pakistani Muslim friends. Christians and Muslims are same. They worship same god. They are cleverly dividing the conversion of hindus between them.
What I say is what we believe.
Gita NOT Bible or Kuran.
Burn the churchs an mosques.

Peace,
Respectfully.

I believe that the present pope knows what is really happening in the churches around the world.

The talk should be about terrorisma nd priests who are rapists.

Peace.

this weab site is realy good

"Hail Jesus, full of Grace, the Father is with Thee,
Blessed art thou amongst men" and "Blessed is the fruit of thy Sacrifice."
"For You, Christ Jesus, have been born the Savior of our souls."

The Koran
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html

Muslim wrote:

Peace,
Respectfully.
I believe that the present pope knows what is really happening in the churches around the world.
The talk should be about terrorisma nd priests who are rapists.
Peace.

Respectfully. Indeed the Pope did talk about these things, in Australia, for world youth week. He also apologised to those that had been harmed by the Priests, and for the way that the Church covered things up with their lies and deceit. Terrorism is on everyone's lips and in our eyes, there is no escaping from it, but soon, there will be none left to kill each other off, they will be gone.... Poof, like a puff of wind.

What do you think Dr Zakir Naik should cover? Peace be with you, Muslim, as with all of us, Serah

Steven wrote:

"Hail Jesus, full of Grace, the Father is with Thee,
Blessed art thou amongst men" and "Blessed is the fruit of thy Sacrifice."
"For You, Christ Jesus, have been born the Savior of our souls."

Blessings to you, Steven, indeed what you have written is true...

John 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again; “Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 10:9 I am the door, by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10:10. "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." 10:11 I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth, and the wolf catcheth them and scattereth the sheep. 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. 10:14 I am the Good shepherd, and know my sheep, and are known of mine. 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father, and I lay down my life for the sheep.10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I may take it up again. 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself.I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

As Lord Jesus prayed to His Father, he also prayed to our Heavenly Father, for we are all Children of God; for once and for all, let there be Peace, let us make our Father happy, so that He can finally hold His head up high, pleased with the sight of His children, caring for each other on this one world world, we all call home.

Genesis Chapter 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6:6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him in his heart.

Many of us are making the effort to show that our Heavenly Father, God, Lord or He that is I AM is proud of His children, and we are trying also to spread the living and loving word that He has given us to share. He and Jesus hatched a wonderful plan to alter the fate of mankind, by making man kind; LOL, many are falling way short of the word kind, although man is applied to all and sundry. Blessings of Love, Peace, and every other wonderful emotion that we can experience, that we too share it with others, as always, Serah and her Queen Puggy!

mahabubul hassan wrote:

this weab site is realy good

Greetings Mahabubul, indeed the people that care for each other, regardless of the difference of their faiths, are caring for the Children of God, and so we all should. Topix is a wonderful way of sharing our thoughts, and our knowledge, and let us hope, it is also a wonderful way for us to grow, as we learn how to understand each other, Serah

Cheers brother: Much appreciated on the support... Worked "the circuit" with some Aussies (if u don't mind)... damn good guys... lost 2... my beer is raised... thanx again

Serah wrote:

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Perhaps they are choosing the God of the Pharaoh, such is written in Exodus..
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses,“I AM THAT I AM” and He said,“Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.” 3:15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus you shall say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your Fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you; this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
Exodus 7:1 And the Lord said unto Moses, See I have made thee a god to Pharaoh and Aaron thy brother shall be thy Prophet….skipping time….. 8:16 And the Lord said unto Moses, Say unto Aaron, Stretch out thy rod, and smite the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt 8:17 And they did so; for Aaron stretched out his hand with his rod, and smote the dust of the earth, and it became lice in man, and in beast; all the dust of the land became lice throughout all the land of Egypt 8:18 And the magician did so, with their enchantments to bring forth lice, but they could not; so there were lice upon man and upon beast.
8:19 And the magicians said unto the Pharaoh This is the finger of God; and Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, and he harkened not unto them, as the Lord had said. 8:21 Else, if thou wilt not let my people go, behold, I will send swarms of flies upon thee, and upon they servants, and upon thy people, and into they houses and the houses of the Egyptians shall be full of swarms of flies, and also the ground whereon they are. 8:25 And Pharaoh called for Moses and for Aaron and said; Go Ye, sacrifice to your God in the land 8:26 And Moses said, it is not meet so to do; for we shall sacrifice the abomination (a bomb in a nation) of the Egyptians to the Lord our God; lo shall we sacrifice the abominations of the Egyptians before their eyes, and will they not stone us?
I am not sure who the God of the Pharaoh is, but one can easily see who does the stonings....

In general,... Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buhddism,...Mongol, American Indian, Mayan,... etc.-- WHO are WE to excommunicate and condemn those that believe in "THE COMMON THREAD"... that which links us ALL... what is RIGHT , is SIMPLY RIGHT... and that which is WRONG is SIMPLY WRONG in the name of HUMANITY !!! You will survive and live a wonderful life without HATRED and an ARROW towards killing. Stand UP and understand that we are here WITH and for the SAME GOD... and IF you have it in you to BE a GOOD human being to others... than YOU will be REWARDED... NOT that you should KILL in GOD'S NAME will you be rewarded... is THAT the GOD that you want to represent? I would hope NOT.

Joshua wrote:

In general,... Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buhddism,...Mongol, American Indian, Mayan,... etc.-- WHO are WE to excommunicate and condemn those that believe in "THE COMMON THREAD"... that which links us ALL... what is RIGHT , is SIMPLY RIGHT... and that which is WRONG is SIMPLY WRONG in the name of HUMANITY !!! You will survive and live a wonderful life without HATRED and an ARROW towards killing. Stand UP and understand that we are here WITH and for the SAME GOD... and IF you have it in you to BE a GOOD human being to others... than YOU will be REWARDED... NOT that you should KILL in GOD'S NAME will you be rewarded... is THAT the GOD that you want to represent? I would hope NOT.

Hi Joshua, it is easy for me to agree that we are all Children of God, and that He just wants us all to care for each other, such as we would care for ourselves. If we are honourable in our chosen Faith, then it should be of no concern to others, as this is a deep and private thing, inherent within each of us.

It is sad that soldiers are still out there fighting wars, and getting killed, and I am just hoping that it will be much sooner rather than later, when we all realise that we are here, together as Souls having a human experience.

We should grow and evolve into mightier and more loving beings through this experience, so that when we too, finally give up the ghost, such as Abraham did, we will take with us something wonderful.

Joshua wrote:

Cheers brother: Much appreciated on the support... Worked "the circuit" with some Aussies (if u don't mind)... damn good guys... lost 2... my beer is raised... thanx again<quoted text>

Thanks to all of the soldiers that are protecting the innocent, and it is sad to see war as a tragedy that unites us together. However, I too raise my beer and salute those that have given their lives that we may enjoy peace on Earth, without fear in our hearts. In Australia we have Anzac Day, April 25th each year, in honour of those that have fallen due to the sadness that we simply call war. It is a very moving day, and starts at dawn with The Last Post, and there are many eyes that are shedding tears for those whose lives were taken.

here is a link;

http://www.acn.net.au/articles/anzac/lastpost...

and to the Words of Remembrance

http://www.anzacday.org.au/education/tff/reme...

and these are the words that are shared amongst us;

They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old;
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn;
At the going down of the sun and in the morning We shall remember them....

@ Hindus

We are watching all you hindus, If we suspect you people are part of a bigger network to control the ISLAMIC forum then We Will Destroy this forum too.

Look & see what we've did to the christians forum. It's almost destroyed.

The Hindu forum is very small so it should only take a week to destroy.
So please, if you are going to visit the Islam forum come in peace & we shall treat you kindly.

PEACE

http://www.atheists.org/

ALI wrote:

@ Hindus
We are watching all you hindus, If we suspect you people are part of a bigger network to control the ISLAMIC forum then We Will Destroy this forum too.
Look & see what we've did to the christians forum. It's almost destroyed.
The Hindu forum is very small so it should only take a week to destroy.
So please, if you are going to visit the Islam forum come in peace & we shall treat you kindly.
PEACE

And Peace be with you, too. Indeed that is what most of us are seeking, however, perhaps you should look at what people are doing in the name of Islam, or Muslim, before you going casting stones at others. Respectfully consider each of us as equals, with the right to our own beliefs. Let God Judge those that are unworthy, as indeed He is the only one with the wisdom and insight to see that which is inherent within each of us.

Joshua wrote:

In general,... Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism,...believe in "THE COMMON THREAD"... that which links us ALL......Stand UP ... SAME GOD....

Noetic Response

July 29, 08

Part1:Jewdom Part2:Christendom Part3:Islamdom
Jewdom: This is modern Israel and the mostly Western Jewish Diaspora, an amorphous 'mass' primarily of Orthodox, Conservative, Reformed, Buddhist & Secular Jews of Semitic (i.e. of Shem & Abraham) descent and proselytes. They are basically a humanistic mix, highly motivated to build a better world and/or secure a place in heaven with good works (Karma) using the powers of governments. The Talmud and the Torah are the Sacred Texts. There is an emphasis on knowledge. All religions are tolerated, except Christianity.
This should be distinguished from the covenanted Israel of old which was a 'mixed multitude'(Exodus 12: 38) redeemed under the Shekhina, a 'Revealed' Tabernacle/Temple with an inherited Levitical priesthood (of the tribe of Levi),'continual' 7-day animal sacrifices 'certified' with the 'continual' ashes of the Red Heifer, the Arc of the Covenant, an inherited Davidic Sovereignty, with a Promised Land and future hope of the Chosen One, the Promised King Messiah of Davidic descent. The 'Singular' Messiah was chosen before the foundation of the World, hence the necessity of a chosen people and a chosen family to bring forth the One and Only Chosen Messiah with an indisputable identity and assured genealogy on the human front. The Torah and the Prophets constitute the Sacred Text.

Christendom: This is also an amorphous universal mass of people, primarily Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant denominations, a potpourri of practicing and professing folks, secular and religious, socialists and capitalists, Anarchists and Utopians, Terrorists and Pacifists, Conservatives and Liberals, Environmentalists and Animal- rightists, the old Satanists and the New-Ageists, moral, immoral and amoral. Mostly it is a hodgepodge of beliefs, essentially of good works which will make them successful here and secure a happy place in the hereafter. Episcopalism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Totalitarianism, Republicanism, Democratism, Monarchism and any other ism or religion are all normally kosher here. Church-State separation, as well as mixing of the two, are okay. Bible, traditions, all other religious books and beliefs of any and every kind is welcome here. Distinction between license and freedom, wisdom and knowledge, authority and power is not discernible.

This should be distinguished from the Messianic Way (Acts 9:2; 19:23,24:14; John 14: 4, 6)), the Biblical Obedience of Faith (Romans 1:5; 16:26), the Ecclesia Universal, the General Assembly and the Church of the First Born (Hebrews 12:23,). The true Church composed of only REGENERATE people from the Redeemed Adam to Pentecost and from Pentecost to the First Resurrection, Believers who are Redeemed by the Death and Resurrection of the Messiah, ordained slain from the foundation of the world. They consider themselves "pilgrims and strangers" here (Hebrews 11: 13;1Peter 2: 11) and prefer 'least' governments as the best governments for all to believe and practice their faith, in private and in the public square. They opt for co-equal tripartite [ Jehovah is the Executive, the Legislature and the Judge; Isaiah 33:22], but an 'integrated whole' Government. They affirm that humans are conceived in corruption and born corrupt and crave to usurp power to maximize their corrupt ways. Hence the necessity for the 'least' government or most self-government and self-discipline. Individual freedom,'life, liberty and private ownership', free markets and free enterprises, and entrepreneurial spirits are the natural bi-products of a free society. The Bible is their only Authority, in matters of faith and order.

Noetic

Joshua wrote:

In general,... Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buhddism,...Mongol, American Indian, Mayan,... etc.-- WHO are WE to excommunicate and condemn those that believe in "THE COMMON THREAD"... that which links us ALL... what is RIGHT , is SIMPLY RIGHT... and that which is WRONG is SIMPLY WRONG in the name of HUMANITY !!! You will survive and live a wonderful life without HATRED and an ARROW towards killing. Stand UP and understand that we are here WITH and for the SAME GOD... and IF you have it in you to BE a GOOD human being to others... than YOU will be REWARDED... NOT that you should KILL in GOD'S NAME will you be rewarded... is THAT the GOD that you want to represent? I would hope NOT.

July 29, 08
Noetic Response

Part1:Jewdom Part2:Christendom Part3:Islamdom

Part 3

Islamdom: This is also an amorphous global throng of people, primarily Sunnis, Shiites and Sufis, Arabs and non-Arabs, none professing to be secular, but most living as such. It is a mix of democracies, theocracies (Allah-cracies?), fascisms, dictatorships, tribalisms, oligarchies and monarchies. Good works here are mandatory for obtaining a secure place in the hereafter.'Live and let live' is not an uncommon manner of life, though most of the populace are proselytes by the "Sword of Allah", or their descendents. Arts and sciences are encouraged. Jihad is considered a personal matter of purification.
This is not to be confused with Koran's Islamism where the religion and the state are syncretized into a single whole. Except in a few of the modern Islamic States, knowledge outside of Koran is not promoted. Other religions, i.e of foreigners in residence, are tolerated only in strict government-defined privacy. True Islam of the Koran requires all infidels be either converted, subjugated or be annihilated. Here Jihad means terrorizing any and all into the Sharia Law and forcing all to convert and dying if necessary as martyrs in that process. Heavenly receptions and rewards by Allah are assured and guaranteed only by such martyrdoms. The genocides of the Byzantines, Hindus and the Armenians are acceptable paradigms.

Noetic