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debating with a terrorist is no win situation..
he doesnt have brains to apply logic and he will behead u when he loses the debate....

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how to beat your wife islamic style

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women in islam
http://enoughfornow.tripod.com/womeninislam.h...
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Jul 20, 2008
 
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I am afraid...because it has a tendency to inspire mass indiscriminate murder.... a Hindu does. But because Hindus make you so angry....
www.myspace.com/crudsade
We shall NEVER allow Christians to take over our Hindu Daalit brothers. They are trying to convert them through nasty propaganda. We know our real enemy is Christians. They took over our Mother India held us hostage took our Kohinoor and all the wealth. Then they divided the land and gave it to their Pakistani Muslim friends. Christians and Muslims are same. They worship same god. They are cleverly dividing the conversion of hindus between them.
Gita NOT Bible or Kuran.
Burn the churchs.
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Jul 20, 2008
 
Marco the atheist wrote:
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I am not accepting the challenge of people who are proven liars and followers of the religion of violence.

You have let our side down. I am ashamed to call you a Hindu you turncoat.
So you are officially poorer and stupid than Ali Cohen.
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I am afraid...because it has a tendency to inspire mass indiscriminate murder.... a Hindu does. But because Hindus make you so angry....
www.myspace.com/crudsade
I am a Hindu and I am proud to be one.
We shall NEVER allow Christians to take over our Hindu Daalit brothers. They are trying to convert them through nasty propaganda. We know our real enemy is Christians. They took over our Mother India held us hostage took our Kohinoor and all the wealth. Then they divided the land and gave it to their Pakistani Muslim friends. Christians and Muslims are same. They worship same god. They are cleverly dividing the conversion of hindus between them.
What I say is what we believe.
Gita NOT Bible or Kuran.
Burn the churchs an mosques.

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Jul 20, 2008
 
uk police is watching thousands of pakistani terrorists. They are giving them enough rope to hang themselves

The counter-terrorist agencies are especially concerned about the links being forged between British citizens of Pakistani descent and al-Qa'eda militants in the land of their parents or grandparents.

Many young Britons with Pakistani backgrounds travel to Pakistan to visit relatives or to attend religious ''camps", where they may be targeted and recruited by jihadists.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/jul/15/ukcr...

hundreds waiting death sentence in pakistan accused of disrespecting muhammad

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...

r*ped women in pakistan sentenced to death or jail

http://mobyrebuttal.blogspot.com/2006/08/isla...
http://india_resource.tripod.c om/grpakistan.html

Pakistani terrorists train disabled and autistic teenagers to blow themselves up
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/201642...

state persecution of christians in pakistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_...
http://www.persecution.org/news/Press_Release...

christians tortured to death in pakistan
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp...
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Jul 20, 2008
 
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uk police is watching thousands of pakistani terrorists. They are giving them enough rope to hang themselves
The counter-terrorist agencies are especially concerned about the links being forged between British citizens of Pakistani descent and al-Qa'eda militants in the land of women-example-3496.html
http://india_resource.tripod.c om/grpakistan.html
Pakistani terrorists train disabled and autistic teenagers to blow themselves up
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/201642 ...
state persecution of christians in pakistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_ ...
http://www.persecution.org/news/Press_Release ...
christians tortured to death in pakistan
http://www.worldnetdaily.cw s/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38509
They are watching hindus too. did you not hear about the credit card scam and hindu arrests?
you are being watched fermented cake because your ulterior motive is not peace and understanding but mindless hatred and violence towards Christians in india.
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Maybe Mohammad did have a personality that many liked, so did Hitler. But His character lacked any integrity or honesty.
Not one Holy Prophet had the arrogance and superiority complex and self-aggrandizement that Moh did. He had delusions of his own greatness, boasting in being the best of creations. Do you not know that God cast Satan out for the sin of pride?
Mohammad made himself equal with his deceiving god by saying that the whole earth belongs to Allah and him. He made himself partner with his god by telling you that you must include his name in your statement of faith. No other prophet did such arrogance. And then in his hyprocy, He denied that God has a partner.
Using his self made position to fulfill every sexual deviance Satan invented. Lying about a Holy God who does not have a brothel, and using that lie to promote his own agenda and selfish lust for power and recognition.
Jesus clearly stated that there will be no marriages and none given in marriage in heaven. One would at least consider that A God who is Holy, would never promote such a lustful indulgent, fleshly place of total debauchery in His Holy, sinless Kingdom. But Satan is not stupid. He knows what raging hormone buttons men want pushed. Seduction, coercion, manipulation, threats, whatever He has up his sleeve, You will do like an Ox going to the slaughter, just for the dream of what might be. Allah FORCES WORSHIP.
Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force."

Any God who forces worship is not a true God because worship is love and love is voluntary.
God by His own nature draws the worship He deserves. If worship is forced, it cancels out it's own qualities. Threats and coercions imposed by Muslims and in the Quran prove that Allah can not be God.
Do you deny Forced worship. is in Mohammad's ideas?
The Qur'an:
Sura (9:29)- "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth,(even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down.

Sura (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat.

Many of his sins are in his own books,. They are not minor sins, but very serious blasphemies, yet muslims overlook them and even deny them. Do you really believe that one good deed cancels out a bad one? I would like to hear of just one sin that he did not commit.
He considered himself above even God's won laws. He never gave a true prophesy, He used his position to get his lustful sins satisfied and then proceeded to say that God told him he can. He is a filthy brute beast.
Instead of casting slurs at me, tell me what one sin he did not commit.

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RealHindu wrote:
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You have let our side down. I am ashamed to call you a Hindu you turncoat.
So you are officially poorer and stupid than Ali Cohen.
Apart from the fact that you are not a hindu (your writing style exposes you), you SHOULD be ashamed of calling me a hindu. Unless you think it is normal to use such obviously incorrect insults...
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Jul 21, 2008
 
Which Islam?

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Deobandis
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Jul 21, 2008
 
I Take my 5 Fingers up and Press it on your face and say the "Holy AMERICAN Word" Speak WITH THE HAND"!!! ROFL
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God Bless America!

God Bless Israel!
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WELCOME TO ALI FORUM
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PRAISE ALLAH AND THE HOLY PROPHET

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Yankee Doodle wrote:
Which Islam?
Hanafi
Shafii
Maliki
Hanbal
Sufis
Wahabis
Salafists
Submitters
Khilafites
Deobandis
Jaffri
Islamilia
Zaidiah
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These pictures are of Muslims marching through the streets of
London during their recent "Religion of Peace Demonstration."

Why would anyone think that we should be at war! with such
nice, peaceful Moslems?!

Americans need to know - You need to forward this one to
everyone! These Pictures tell it all!

Muslims have stated that England will be the first country
they take over!

These are pictures not shown on American TV or in American
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forwarded to me by a Canadian Friend who thought Americans
ought to know!

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Jul 24, 2008
 
Zakir Naik is the man!
many ppl who convert to islam they are all educated.
and pope should solve the gays problem and those who were raped by them n many of the preist in churchs are gays.
do not ever send your kids to churchs. they might become gays
China

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Jul 24, 2008
 
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They are watching hindus too. did you not hear about the credit card scam and hindu arrests?
you are being watched fermented cake because your ulterior motive is not peace and understanding but mindless hatred and violence towards Christians in india.
the british queen wears the stolen Daimond of " Kohe Noor" (indian).it is shame to wear stolen things
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enough42 wrote:
uk police is watching thousands of pakistani terrorists. They are giving them enough rope to hang themselves
The counter-terrorist agencies are especially concerned about the links being forged between British citizens of Pakistani descent and al-Qa'eda militants in the land of their parents or grandparents.
Many young Britons with Pakistani backgrounds travel to Pakistan to visit relatives or to attend religious ''camps", where they may be targeted and recruited by jihadists.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/jul/15/ukcr...
hundreds waiting death sentence in pakistan accused of disrespecting muhammad
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...
r*ped women in pakistan sentenced to death or jail
http://mobyrebuttal.blogspot.com/2006/08/isla...
http://india_resource.tripod.c om/grpakistan.html
Pakistani terrorists train disabled and autistic teenagers to blow themselves up
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/201642...
state persecution of christians in pakistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_...
http://www.persecution.org/news/Press_Release...
christians tortured to death in pakistan
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp...
true hindu respect churchs and Masjids.

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China wrote:
Zakir Naik is the man!
many ppl who convert to islam they are all educated.
and pope should solve the gays problem and those who were raped by them n many of the preist in churchs are gays.
do not ever send your kids to churchs. they might become gays
Not if Dr Naik uses arguments like this.

www.islam101.com/religions/christianity/mBibl...

Dr Naik:
"3. Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned"."

This is a really bad argument.

The verse appears to foretell Muhammad's first revelation from the Angel Gabriel, but when read in context it's actually a rant against hypocrites.

Isaiah 29:
9 Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.
10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

The verse has been taken totally out of context.

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Dr Naik:
"4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present."

Muhammadim means "altogether lovely" so it's claimed this verse is referring to Muhammad.

Song of Solomon is a collection of erotic love poems so it's hardly surprising the words "altogether lovely" appear in one of them.
It's obvious from the context of the verse that 'altogether lovely' is a phrase, a description, not a name.
Just because a word looks similar to 'Muhammad' doesn't mean it refers to Muhammad.
And why would Muhammad be mentioned in an erotic poem rather than one of the prophecies?

But a bigger problem is that Islam forbids alcohol.

5:1 "I am come into my garden, my sister, my spouse: I have gathered my myrrh with my spice; I have eaten my honeycomb with my honey; I have drunk my wine with my milk: eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly, O beloved."

So unless Muhammad liked the odd bottle of wine, this verse is not about him.

Either Dr Naik has never read these verses or he doesn't believe you will.
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My GOD is your GOD ! The very same divine creator of ALL that we see and attempt to understand. I simply believe in Christ... for how else is it that our GOD could understand the plight of his creation without experiencing it first hand... to inspect and see if we were truly worth saving... a prospect that the jury is still out on these days i would say. The Roman Catholice Church and it's questionable idolization of Mary makes no sense to me... except one thing... since the beginning,... only TWO people had the power... the STRONGEST... and those that spoke to GOD! It's always been a battle... and i will say this... absolute power corrupts ABSOLUTELY. Christians are NOT pagans... it's just a broader expansion of the same GOD that you know as ALL powerful. Ah Salam ah Lech em habbibi (spelling)

I am a soldier... a defender of liberty for all... and a friend to those thath choose to be strong enough to be friends.
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Who wants to believe in the religion which has a confusing and illogical concept.For a start take the word TRINITY. Three-in one god - son god, father god and holy ghost. For god's sake can someone tell me who is the real god of this twisted religion? Added to this confusion, the christians also worship Mary(pbuh) as goddess.Am I not right in saying that the christians are pagan idol worshippers? Imagine people believing in a religion that says god incarnated to human form and then get killed and crucified!<quoted text>
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