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now rabbi-deen is posting as evil christian and evil jews in this thread, just look at the ip's, come on 'rabbi' who needs to take the meds?

http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/islam/TJ4...

For You wrote:

<quoted text>Parallels between Christianity and ancient Pagan religions
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa1.h...
Christianity = Pagan
A question you probably never thought about: Did Christianity borrow ideas from other religions? If you're like me, you grew up thinking it didn't. We were taught Christianity began with a big bang—with Jesus. Jesus changed the world with ideas about God that were new and revolutionary.
It ain't so. Our Christianity doesn't come from Jesus and a big bang. It comes from the accumulation of legends and theologies by people who believed in Jesus. The origin of those ideas wasn't Jesus. The origin was the myths, legends, philosophies, prejudices, literature, superstitions, and primitive cosmology of ancient western culture. Christianity was a product of its time and place.
That's what POCM is about.
http://www.pocm.info/getting_started_pocm.htm...

The Old Testament is the only origin of the New Testament, Many other religions started many offshoots from The True God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Now some say that Christians got their ideas from these, but One has to understand the Old Testament to know the whole complete history of Christianity. The Old Testament prophets all foretold of His coming and had to believe on Him same as we do. They also had to be Christians, but they were called,''saints'' as we also are today.

Ha ha wrote:

#11They can interpret hadith all they want. We already have the full collection.

Taebozz wrote:

#6147Women in Hadiths…
Al-Bukhaari (3894) & Muslim (1422) narrated:‘Aa’ishah said: The Prophet…. married me when I was six years old & consummated the marriage when I was nine.
- Imam Gazzali Vol 2. If the body of the husband from head to toe would be full with pus & the wife would eat that by licking, still her gratitude (to him) would not be fulfilled.
-Sahi Bukhari 1.6.301 Majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire are women..
- Sahi Bukhari 1.9.490.If a dog, a donkey or a woman pass in front of the praying people, Prayer is annulled.
-Sahi Bukhari; 7.62.30. Evil omen is in the women, the house & the horse.
- Shahih Muslim 36.6603.Women are more harmful to men than anything else.
- Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2142. A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.
- Imam Gazzali - Ehya Ulum Al Deen Vol 2. "The essence of marriage is slavery. After marriage the wife enters slavery of the husband".
- Sahi Bukhari 5.59.709. People ruled by a woman will never be successful.
- Shahih Bukhari 7.62.33. Nothing is more harmful to men than women.
- Imam Gazzali Ehya Ulum Al Deen - Vol. II, p367. "The devil says to women:‘You are half my army’".
Al-Musanaf by Abu Bakr Ahmad Ibn 'Abd Allah Ibn Mousa Al-Kanadi vol. 1 part 2, p. 255. "If a woman offered one of her breasts to be cooked & the other to be roasted, she still will fall short of fulfilling her obligations to her husband….if she disobeys her husband even for a twinkling of an eye, she would be thrown in the lowest part of Hell, except when she repents & turns back."
Tabari VIII:116/Ishaq:511 – "So Muhammed began seizing their herds & their property bit by bit. He conquered home by home…..took some , including Safiyah & her two cousins. The Prophet chose Safiyah for himself." (ANOTHER CAPTIVE SEX-SLAVE FOR THE PROPHET. KILL, KILL, KILL, RAPE, RAPE, RAPE. What’s wrong with this Allah dude, he's sick.

SHOCKING & SICKENING ISLAMIC FILTH!

That's why I was pleased to read that the Turkish Govt’s committee of Islamic experts are reviewing all their Hadiths. They contain a lot of filth, silliness, irrationality, evil & violence.

Of course there are good teachings in them too. The sad thing is, non-Muslims like me, love the good parts of their Hadiths, while bad Muslims like “Ha ha” cherish the bad parts as something very sacred & unalterable.

That's why Muslims are perennially cursing themselves with the dreadful Curse of Isthlal---their perennial corruption, backwardness, benightedness & sufferings. Invariably, non-Muslims got the blame by the Muslims for their self-imposed backwardness and problems through their religion-sanctioned conspiracy theories.

In this way, Muslim leaders can ‘prove’ to their mindless followers the “eternal truths & beauty” of their Quran, such as Ali-Imran 3:118-120: that Muslims love the non-Muslims, but the treacherous non-Muslims return their love & goodness by always wanting to corrupt & ruin Muslims. So when Muslims are blessed with good fortune, non-Muslims will be grieving. But when Muslims are in troubles, non-Muslims will be rejoicing!

But it cannot be denied that the facts were otherwise. It was non-Muslim Singapore & America that were the first to rush down to help the grief-stricken Muslims in Aceh, whom their leaders insulted as being punished by Allah with the tsunami for their sin of not sincerely upholding their Sharia Law.

Also, Muslims everywhere were very happy that Muslim Kuwaitis were robbed, raped & mass-slaughtered by Saddam Hussein, while non-Muslims burned with Islamic indignation for this gross violation of Islamic Law and Justice! So Muslim Kuwaitis had to run to “Great Satan” for help! When America did, many Muslims were outraged that America had attacked Islam & the Muslim country of Iraq!

Three cheers to Islamic brotherliness!!

najat wrote:

#258 I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT ARE RACIST TO ISLAM YOU WILL REGRET WHAT YOU SAY ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT. HOW COME US MUSLIMS DONT MAKE FUN OF CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM AND BUDDIST ETC. WE DONT SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT THEM AND CHRISTIANS FOR EXAMPLE THE DANISH KEEP MAKING FUN OF US AND OUR PROPHET. THERES NOTHING TO MAKE FUN OF BECAUSE WE ARE JUST A RELIGION LIKE ANY OTHER RELIGION.

THE FAVOURITE ACTIVITY OF MANY MUSLIMS IS TO VULGARISE, SLANDER AND FABRICATE UNTRUTHS AGAINST OTHERS AND AGAINST OTHER MUSLIMS

Hi Najat, are you a Rip van Winkle? Just getting up from your many years of deep coma, or what?

If Muslims are to be very honest with themselves and look through all of Topix's Islamic forums, you can see the countless Islamic posts vulgarising, slandering and fabricating of lies by Muslims against non-Muslims and their religion. When Christians respond to their nefarious, untruthful or half-truthful and insulting attacks with reason, facts and logic, they spew more vulgarities, slanders and insults. Unfortunately, some non-Muslims did the same to Muslims. All wrong-doers alike are to be soundly condemned.

Some Muslims also love to issue death threats against non-Muslims when they lose in simple debates against non-Muslim, as if all they love to learn from their Islam/Quran is the evil and the untruths they need to help them serve their allah better, that divine imposter. One even wanted to rape me (I'm a man) and my long dead mother.

And you are shamelessly perpetuating the lie that "MUSLIMS DONT MAKE FUN OF CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM AND BUDDIST ETC. WE DONT SAY BAD THINGS ABOUT THEM AND CHRISTIANS FOR EXAMPLE THE DANISH KEEP MAKING FUN OF US AND OUR PROPHET."

And you are keeping so very quiet like a mouse when innocent Muslim children, women and men in your many Islamic paradises are being mass-slaughtered almost every day by sex-driven holy Islamic warriors in a manner far less dignified than non-Muslims killing their dirty, stinking pigs---all for the promised “appetizing vaginas” of the voluptuous paradise virgins!

allah is great? You must be mentally retarded!

But I tell you---the Quranic Prayer of Prophet Suleiman will cure you of your mental retardation and baby talk. So I would like to invite you to join me and your Yemeni Muslim brethren to believe and to promote this transcendentally beautiful Quranic prayer, to help me crusade for the Great Humankind Renaissance, will you?

So "Inspire me, Lord to be thankful to Thee for Thy favors to me and my parents to do good deeds which will please Thee. Admit me, through Thy mercy, to be among Thy righteous." An-Naml 27:19. "For the noblest in God's sight is he who is the most righteous. Al-Hujurut 49:13.

You may now go to the Yemen Observer web-site to read about my effort to promote the Great Humankind Renaissance at:

http://www.yobserver.com/opinions/10013281.ht...

hard Turk wrote:

#25<quoted text>Mr. just words and no proof, Can you prove any thing you write here?

THE PRAYER OF PROPHET SULEIMAN IS A SURE CURE FOR ALL ISLAMIC IMBECILITY!

Hi "Hard Turk". Your irrational and unreasonable reaction, plus your defensiveness for Islam proves that you are a hidden Muslim. There are so much questionable things written about Islam in the hadiths.

You got the time to read and dig deep into the Jewish Talmud, but no time to read your hadiths in your Islamic country of Turkey. Strange? Who do you think you are trying to bluff, "Hard Turk"? We are not idiots like you! I'm sure if you want to tell lies, you are more capable to do a more convincing job that showing how stupid you are, "Hard Turk".

If you still feel so strongly that what I posted are lies, including about a long-standing Singaporean Quran teacher who raped his many virgin daughters to assert his Quranic rights of ownership over them (and he already has ten wives, and still wanted to rape his own daughters!), the proper thing for you to do is to file a report to the Singapore Police. Please stop being such an idiot, will you?

Instead of playing stupid, why don’t you join me to show faith and help me to promote the Quranic Prayer of Prophet Suleiman in Turkey, as this transcendentally beautiful Quranic prayer will cure you and many of your fellow Muslims of all your imbecility! That's for sure! But if you are not interested in the goodness of your Quran, I suggest you clear out of Topix’s Islamic forums.

So "Inspire me, Lord to be thankful to Thee for Thy favors to me and my parents to do good deeds which will please Thee. Admit me, through Thy mercy, to be among Thy righteous." An-Naml 27:19. "For the noblest in Allah’s sight is he who is the most righteous. Al-Hujurut 49:13.

Allahu Akbar!!

hard Turk wrote:

#20 <quoted text>I notice you always lie.I am not a Muslim myself but comparing Islam to Judeo-Christians is like comparing angels(muslims) with shit(Judeo-Christians)

How many have heard Muslims say this?'' Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.'' They believe that God is in the business of choosing the majority, like a democracy. Sure Islam is growing all over, Jesus prophesied that in the last days only a few will know the truth. He said that the biggest problem will be deception. 2Ti 3:13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. AND; Lu 18:8 "I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man returns, will He really find faith on the earth?"
Sp their boastings are no credit for Islam.

iraqi father kills her daughter suffocating her by placing his foot on her throat, his two sons helped him. The police allowed him to walk free and congratulated him. Her only sin was confessing to a girl friend that she fancied a british soldier.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/11/i...

Truth Rules wrote:

<quoted text>

The Old Testament is the only origin of the New Testament, Many other religions started many offshoots from The True God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, Now some say that Christians got their ideas from these, but One has to understand the Old Testament to know the whole complete history of Christianity. The Old Testament prophets all foretold of His coming and had to believe on Him same as we do. They also had to be Christians, but they were called,''saints'' as we also are today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_view_of_J...

"Maimonides in his Epistle to Yemen writes that Jesus was a heretic."

Jewish Beliefs about Jesus - For 2,000 years, Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah. Why?

1) Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.

2) Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.

3) Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.

4) Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
At the end of this article, we will examine these additional topics:

5) Christianity contradicts Jewish theology

6) Jews and Gentiles

7) Bringing the Messiah

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/jewsan...

The Jewish View of Jesus

http://judaism.about.com/od/beliefs/a/jesus.h...

enough42 wrote:

iraqi father kills her daughter suffocating her by placing his foot on her throat, his two sons helped him. The police allowed him to walk free and congratulated him. Her only sin was confessing to a girl friend that she fancied a british soldier.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/11/i...

As a female who had been molested at the age of 13, and spoke of it, I can thank my Heavenly Father for placing me in Australia. Here, I only had my dog shot and my hair chopped off, elsewhere, I could have been stoned to death, and the molesterer could have been there chucking the rocks that could kill.

My mind shudders at the thought of these atrocities, but perhaps I feel more empathy as I was also in the unfortunate situation that others have found themselves in. Blessings of Peace to all, within our Hearts and our Souls, which is where we should focus our lives upon, and that is what our Heavenly Father will see in us, that which is inherent, Serah

Qur'an 3:1 "Alif-Lam-Mim.(These letters are one of the miracles of the Qur'an but only Allah knows their meaning.) How's that for desperate? If you can't perform a miracle and can't compose intelligent scripture, claim that the incomprehensiblity itself is a miracle.

Along that same line, Allah declares the impossible: Qur'an 3:3 "He has verily revealed to you this Book, in truth and confirmation of the Books revealed before, as indeed He had revealed the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)." Although we have covered this before, it bears repeating. The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagint prove that the words of the Torah, Psalms, and Prophets did not change during the thousand years preceding Islam - or in the fourteen hundred years since. And twenty-five thousand New Testament fragments and scrolls dating to more than five hundred years before the earliest surviving Qur'an testify that the Gospels remain unaltered. Allah's claim that his Qur'an confirms books that differ in every way and on every page is ludicrous to the point of lunacy. Further, the magnitude of the supposed conspiracy to write Yahweh, Jews, Judaism, Israel, Jerusalem, the Temple, the Messiah, love, relationship, and peace into the Scriptures - and Allah, Arabs, Islam, Arabia, Mecca, the Ka'aba, Muhammad, hate, punishment, and war out - is beyond comprehension. The odds are beyond impossible. Islam is therefore based upon a false proclamation, a false god, and a false prophet.

The seventh verse says the unclear parts of the Qur'an are for the perverse. The verse warns us not interpret the Qur'an. We're not to look for hidden meanings because searching will bring discord. Then, contradicting the concept of a "revelation," Allah says that he alone knows the meaning. To add insult to injury, we're told that good Muslims believe it all, even the parts written for the perverse. Then to rub salt into the wound, the passage squelches honest inquiry by saying that anyone who doesn't grasp it all lacks understanding.

No Taqiyya wrote:

Qur'an 3:1 "Alif-Lam-Mim.(These letters are one of the miracles of the Qur'an but only Allah knows their meaning.) How's that for desperate? If you can't perform a miracle and can't compose intelligent scripture, claim that the incomprehensiblity itself is a miracle.
Along that same line, Allah declares the impossible: Qur'an 3:3 "He has verily revealed to you this Book, in truth and confirmation of the Books revealed before, as indeed He had revealed the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)." Although we have covered this before, it bears repeating. The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagint prove that the words of the Torah, Psalms, and Prophets did not change during the thousand years preceding Islam - or in the fourteen hundred years since. And twenty-five thousand New Testament fragments and scrolls dating to more than five hundred years before the earliest surviving Qur'an testify that the Gospels remain unaltered. Allah's claim that his Qur'an confirms books that differ in every way and on every page is ludicrous to the point of lunacy. Further, the magnitude of the supposed conspiracy to write Yahweh, Jews, Judaism, Israel, Jerusalem, the Temple, the Messiah, love, relationship, and peace into the Scriptures - and Allah, Arabs, Islam, Arabia, Mecca, the Ka'aba, Muhammad, hate, punishment, and war out - is beyond comprehension. The odds are beyond impossible. Islam is therefore based upon a false proclamation, a false god, and a false prophet.
The seventh verse says the unclear parts of the Qur'an are for the perverse. The verse warns us not interpret the Qur'an. We're not to look for hidden meanings because searching will bring discord. Then, contradicting the concept of a "revelation," Allah says that he alone knows the meaning. To add insult to injury, we're told that good Muslims believe it all, even the parts written for the perverse. Then to rub salt into the wound, the passage squelches honest inquiry by saying that anyone who doesn't grasp it all lacks understanding.

I have also found it unusual, to say the least, that the Holy Qu'ran has written not to believe what the media advises us, such as the trials of the 12 Muslim Terrorists (by their own admission) caught red handed with video recordings of heads sliced off of bodies, holding the heads up on display by the hair. Or the gang rape of the Muslim teenagers, and how there was much wrath tossed at Australia for jailing the culprits, as it was stated that Australian women are like raw meat on display for wild animals to attack! Or the trial of those trying to blow up the planes flying from England to North America! I am not saying that all Muslims have this intent, of course, but they should state quite clearly that they do not approve of despicable behaviour, because as the riots in England have shown us, they are encouraging psychopaths into their Faith. Anyone holding high posters of the promise of 9/11, beheading or dismembering should have been jailed, but they were promoting a Religious gathering. Why would the Holy Qu'ran, written 1400 years ago, tell of refusing to believe the media?

We are made up of cells, or ION’s; we have been told to keep our tents clean; and that indeed our Father will Judge us on our intents, or thoughts, such that He will know us better than we know ourselves.

What do you see there? In Tent Ions? Keeping the tent pure? Genesis Chapture 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6:6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him in his heart.

No Taqiyya wrote:

Qur'an 3:1 "Alif-Lam-Mim.(These letters are one of the miracles of the Qur'an but only Allah knows their meaning.) How's that for desperate? If you can't perform a miracle and can't compose intelligent scripture, claim that the incomprehensiblity itself is a miracle.
Along that same line, Allah declares the impossible: Qur'an 3:3 "He has verily revealed to you this Book, in truth and confirmation of the Books revealed before, as indeed He had revealed the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)." Although we have covered this before, it bears repeating. The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagint prove that the words of the Torah, Psalms, and Prophets did not change during the thousand years preceding Islam - or in the fourteen hundred years since. And twenty-five thousand New Testament fragments and scrolls dating to more than five hundred years before the earliest surviving Qur'an testify that the Gospels remain unaltered. Allah's claim that his Qur'an confirms books that differ in every way and on every page is ludicrous to the point of lunacy. Further, the magnitude of the supposed conspiracy to write Yahweh, Jews, Judaism, Israel, Jerusalem, the Temple, the Messiah, love, relationship, and peace into the Scriptures - and Allah, Arabs, Islam, Arabia, Mecca, the Ka'aba, Muhammad, hate, punishment, and war out - is beyond comprehension. The odds are beyond impossible. Islam is therefore based upon a false proclamation, a false god, and a false prophet.
The seventh verse says the unclear parts of the Qur'an are for the perverse. The verse warns us not interpret the Qur'an. We're not to look for hidden meanings because searching will bring discord. Then, contradicting the concept of a "revelation," Allah says that he alone knows the meaning. To add insult to injury, we're told that good Muslims believe it all, even the parts written for the perverse. Then to rub salt into the wound, the passage squelches honest inquiry by saying that anyone who doesn't grasp it all lacks understanding.

P.S. I have been told by Muslims that the Holy Qu'ran states not to believe the media, and that I am evil writing of such things. I can only assume they are being or were being honest with me, when they have posted this on a world public forum. I also acknowledge that there are possibly billions of Peaceful Muslims, with honour intent, living with us and among us today. However, if such atrocities were done with the name of Christ attached to them, there would be a huge outcry, such as we have seen over the representatives of Christ and our Heavenly Father being taken to task and jailed, for the treatment of the young and the innocent. If we had kept on protecting the guilty, such as the Religions did in the past, then they too, would fall further into disgrace and harsh Judgement of our Heavenly Father...

Genesis Chapture 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6:6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him in his heart.

This is the start of my book.

We'll be back again and if you're present, this is what we want you all to do! Come along now and join the party, come along now and have some fun...perhaps?

Genesis Chapture 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6:6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him in his heart.

Many of us are making the effort to show that our Heavenly Father, God, Lord or He that is I AM is proud of His children, and we are trying also to spread the living and loving word that He has given us to share. He and Jesus hatched a wonderful plan to alter the fate of mankind, by making man kind; LOL, many are falling way short of the word kind, although man is applied to all and sundry. Blessings of Love, Peace, and every other wonderful emotion that we can experience, that we too share it with others, as always, Serah and her Queen Puggy!

No it wasn't, this is..LOL
Jesus Loves Me!
Jesus loves me this I know;
For the Bible tells me so;
Little ones to him belong;
They are weak but he is strong;
Yes Jesus loves me, Yes Jesus loves me, Yes Jesus loves me, the Bible tells me so!
Jesus loves the Aborigine;
From the land across the sea;
And he loves the Cowboys too;
With their Horse and big lasso
Yes Jesus loves me, Yes Jesus loves me, Yes Jesus loves me, the Bible tells me so!
Jesus loves the Indian Boy;
Bow and arrow for his toy;
And he loves the Eskimos too;
Snow and ice make their Igloo!
Yes Jesus loves me, Yes Jesus loves me, Yes Jesus loves me, the Bible tells me so!
And He loves the China men too;
With their smiles and big Ah Choo!
And he loves the African Boys
Wild animals are their toys!
Yes Jesus loves me, Yes Jesus loves me, Yes Jesus loves me, the Bible tells me so!
Jesus loves the little Children
All the Children of the World
Red and Yellow; Black or White
They are precious in His sight!
Eventually I started writing into the Topix Forums, and I created my own Topic and named it ‘There is no need for war” and went on to explain that natural disasters would take care of those with evil intent, and that Angelic Intervention was also at work. The following has been taken from these forums, and the comments of the people posting back have been included, although their names have been altered.
Love and blessings to you all, and I hope you learn to teach each other kindness and softness in your hearts, it makes our paths a lot easier to walk down when we have support and understanding, maybe there are times when the student can teach the teacher!
Can we stop looking for the errors in our messages and try and look deeper into what the person is really trying to impart! We all live in a tough world and tomorrow will be probably tougher; let us love and laugh while we can, and let our echoes of tomorrow be the laughter of today!
Whichever way we turn, and whoever we may look at, and no matter who or what they represent, the same small percentage of corrupt or extremist representatives are readily available. When we turn our back on that small percentage and work together as one, and unite to rebuild our world, we will know that we are all spiritually linked, and while one is suffering, we all will suffer.
One day, Peace will reign, money will be seen for what it is, and the hungry will be fed. With this hope in mind, I salute the peaceful souls in our world, and I will march with you when the time is right. Peace and love to all, the Book of Revelations indicates the time is nigh
I believe I have opened the doorway of my own spirituality and my strong faith allows me inner peace. Someone greater than us will punish those guilty ones who have let the innocent suffer and protected the guilty. And lo and behold if it was children who suffered, punishment for the guilty of making the children suffer will be strong torment for a long time. Let's live in Peace and let what will be, be! Enjoy the miracle of life, it is evident everywhere!
I wish revolution was not a word at all; it does not nor has not resolved anything and no doubt has created trouble where there need not have been any! Mother Earth has had enough, and we need to stop all this blasting and bombing, Mothers are crying so hard they are no longer having their children, they are sending them back to the spiritual world they have just come from! Let's give life a go and have Peace for everyone.

“Madeleine”: You do live in a dream world!

You may have forgotten how to dream. If you have a smile on your face, it is hard to stay angry, and if we care for the others that are suffering, we are rewarded. Sweet dreams Madeleine, take you somewhere wonderful, I often climb and climb and look back and think, why did I come here, I can't go back down. That is what is wonderful; there is no need for me to go back down, only onward and upward. God speed your hope and love.

I too have read The Book of Revelation over and over and can compare it to nothing else that I have read. It talks clearly about the situations that we are in now, and we have walked straight into the scenario that was set. Consider the beast with many heads; any ideas on whom or what that might be, and have you noticed that heads is an acronym of Hades? Armed with this knowledge, we can look at our time on Earth differently. Another thing I know, when something like a Tsunami strikes and hurts countries, people and their animals, we all work together as one to rebuild the ravages of nature.

It is no wonder we will need to endure many more feats of nature; it is the only time we admit to each other that we do care. Love and Peace to you and I hope the next time you read the Holy Bible you may read it with the eyes of the wise old ones and feel the energy of the love and hope that is imprinted in those wonderful pages.

Serah’s Trail

enough42 wrote:

#10004iraqi father kills her daughter suffocating her by placing his foot on her throat, his two sons helped him. The police allowed him to walk free and congratulated him. Her only sin was confessing to a girl friend that she fancied a british soldier.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/11/i...

Well, not unexpected. This is often the upside down Islamic way of the muslims tp prove that Islam is a religion of peace, tolerance and goodness!

But which is worst? The Singaporean Quran teacher who raped many of his virgin daughters with the help of their conniving mothers who agresd to his Quranic rights of ownership of his pretty daughters' "appetizing vaginas"? Or this Iraqi Muslim father?

Can't say for sure. allahu akbar? You are mentally retarded!!

QURAN? Ha, HA. It is to laugh!
According to Allah, Imran was Mary's father, and that's a problem. The Bible says Mary's father was Heli in Luke 3:24. Imran isn't a Hebrew name, but Amram is. Numbers 26:59 identifies him as the father of Moses, Aaron, and Miriam. This misunderstanding may be why Allah, in Qur'an 19:28, calls Mary "Miriam, the sister of Aaron." As such she would have been over 1,200 years old when Christ was born. And while that's bad, the verse begins with "remember," yet there was no prior "Imran" revelation. Qur'an 3:35 "Remember, when the wife of Imran prayed:'Lord, I offer what I carry in my womb in dedication to Your service, accept it, for You are the Hearer, the Knower.' And when she had given birth, she said:'O my Lord I have delivered but a girl, a female child.'[Remember: girls are worthless in Islam apart from luring boys to their doom.] But Allah knew better what she had delivered:'The male is not like the female, and I have named her Mariam (Mary).'"

Allah is very confused, demonstrating an embarrassing lack of knowledge for the scriptures he claims to have inspired.

As misguided as this Qur'an account is, it gets worse in a hurry. Qur'an 3:42 "Behold! the angels said:'Mariam! Allah has chosen you and purified you above the women of all nations and creation (including jinn).'" That's also a problem for Islam. How can Mary be the best if Yahshua is a second-rate "prophet?" In Islam, Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Qusayy, and Muhammad are more important than the Messiah. If Muhammad is numero uno, why wasn't his mom mentioned in the Qur'an?

The answer is simple. Amina, Muhammad's mother, abandoned her son at birth and was a source of rage, not praise. The abuse he suffered as a child gave rise to his religion. And for the "Religion of Submission" to be credible, Yahshua and Mary had to be converted into Muslims... "Mary! submit with obedience to your Lord (Allah). Prostrate yourself, and bow down with those [Muslims] who bow down." In 2 B.C. there were no Muslims with which Mary could have prostrated herself. Gabriel would never have referred to Yahweh using the pagan "Lord." Islam's Black Stone wouldn't come to be named "Allah" for another five hundred years. And why, pray tell, would the Islamic god visit Mary in Israel if Mecca and the Ka'aba were his sacred territory and house? Further, why is there no mention in all of the Qur'an and Hadith of the Messiah visiting Allah at his "House?" After all, the big Mo made the Night's Journey to the Jewish Temple. The answers are: there was no Ka'aba, no Mecca, no Allah, and there were no Muslims back when Yahshua was born. And that makes the primary premise of Islam - that it was the religion of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, and the Messiah - a bold-faced lie. Islam's premise is as rotten as its prophet, as false as its god.

Oh Tham Eng
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"Well, not unexpected. This is often the upside down Islamic way of the muslims tp prove that Islam is a religion of peace, tolerance and goodness!

But which is worst? The Singaporean Quran teacher who raped many of his virgin daughters with the help of their conniving mothers who agresd to his Quranic rights of ownership of his pretty daughters' "appetizing vaginas"? Or this Iraqi Muslim father?"

Well i am new here, and just read your post, correct me if i am taking it in the wrong context. But seriously what i thought was you are being emotional rather than logical. Because the comment you had about the islamic way showed the limit of your thinking.
I fail to understand how can some one judge a religion with about 2 billion followers by what 2 people did or may a small propotion do.Because when you say two people did something bad you should mention what good things others pf the same faith do. And i dont know what your faith is what ever it is i will assure you there are bad people in your faith too.So please before making these generalization put forward a good reasoning and secondly do you have a proof of the sigaporean rape if you do please put it on the forum.
And instead of making sarcastic comments try making the forum productive by discussing about what religions teach rather than what people do. Because trust me you mentioned two cases i can find thousands of such on any religion on google, and to be honest alot of them are just hoax so..........dont comment on a religion like this without good resoning because it just maked you look like a conservative and not a very logical thinker.(Please dont take anything personally too).