Dr Zakir Naik invites Pope Benedict XVI for open interfaith dia...

EleWM wrote:

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can you tell us why the Jordanian government slaugtered about 40 thousand Palestian refugees who were in camps in Jordan? IN all the years of war between Israel and the Palestinians, the jews have not killed even half that number. Please explain why that slaugther does not even seem to be your range of concerns....

Najeeb wrote:

Whatever Dr. Zakir Naik speaks is backed by reference, be it bible, quran or any other scripture. Pope dont have enough knowledge, faith and courage to have a dialog with him.

Faith wrote:

Answer to you marco
You said:"Israel has killed about 5000 civilians in 58 years of fighting Palestinian terrorism and external attacks on its sovereignty."
Again, let me correct your information. Palestinians killed by Israel from 2000 to 2005 alone are 4171 and you are talking about since 1958.

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You said: "Suicide bombers started in 1980. And you know what? There wasn't all that much violence before that time."
So during that time all the Palestinians who died, you don't consider that violence?

Faith wrote:

I was waiting for the answer when I said many councils of UN condemn Israrel. You couldn't come up with an illogical argument for that...?

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Najeeb wrote:

Whatever Dr. Zakir Naik speaks is backed by reference, be it bible, quran or any other scripture. Pope dont have enough knowledge, faith and courage to have a dialog with him.

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EleWM wrote:

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The Pope is one of the most educated men in the world. There is no doubt that he knows the Bible and the Qur'an word by word by heart. I have no doubt that he knows the major Hadiths and Sunnah too.
Your Dr. Zakir Naik is bit player who spreads lies and distorts the truth. The Pope has no need to meet with him. The Pope meets with leaders of other relgions and other nations... not with self-important pseudo intellectuals with agendas

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marco:"You are taking all the combattants into the equation. "
I was taking civilans into consideration.

faith wrote:

"If they'd all be gone, all that nonsense about
Palestinians would finally stop, and the Middle East can stop complaining about the Palestinians being treated so badly. "
This argument shows your mentality right there.

faith wrote:

That is all I wanted to get out of you. Finally you said what you were trying to hide behind your illogical arguments to support killing innocent people. I don't think I need to argue with you any more.

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And for everyone else who thinks that there is no killing of the Palestinians, please go to this website. It may help you realize how wrong you are.
www.ifamericansknew.com

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Mr Cool wrote:

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Muham-mad IS a bad taste joke.so why not bash, criticise and make fun of him?

faith wrote:

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If you can't respect a Prophet, then that tells alot about your character. You think that you are degrading them but you are actually degrading yourself.

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Marco wrote:

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You asked for it, you'll get my argumentation. Let's see what kind of hysterial reaction or get. Or none, that's the two types of reactions I got so far from muslims:
You complain about invasions of countries, robbing resources, and changing governments to democracies. Well, the US has done two of those recently: Iraq and Afghanistan. Whoe were removed? Saddam Hussein and the Taliban. What came in their place? Democracies. Apparently, you consider this a problem.
Stealing resources is a funny one. Afghanistan has just about zero resources to 'steal', and the US has already spent more money in Iraq than it can ever 'steal' in oil in over twenty years!
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Oh, buhu. Another muslim who portrays herself as an innocent victim who is completely helpless. 15% of the Iraqi population had 85% of the remained under control. 5% of the Saudi population controls 95% of the rest. Even in Iran the majority apparently disagrees with their own government. And when one of those is helped by another country to finally create a more fair representation of its population, there we go, muslims cry "foul !".
Muslims let themselves be victimized by their own, and then blame someone else. We've seen that kind of behaviour before. And don't think I don't know. My knowledge of political games played in the past and in the present is not based on what the media says. I have better sources for that.
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There we go, Israel is taken as the example again. Well, try and count all the deaths that Israel has caused in 58 years, remove the armed people it killed, and then compare that to one month(!) in Sudan or Iraq of muslims killing muslims. Oh, oops...
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I don't define a terrorist like that. I define a terrorist as someone who deliberately targets innocent civilians. Israel does plenty to prevent civilians deaths. If it wouldn't, there wouldn't be a Palestinian in Gaza or Westbank. Compare that to people who walk into a bar or bus or disco with a bomb belt.

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faith wrote:

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If you can't respect a Prophet, then that tells alot about your character. You think that you are degrading them but you are actually degrading yourself.

faith wrote:

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If you can't respect a Prophet, then that tells alot about your character. You think that you are degrading them but you are actually degrading yourself.

faith wrote:

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If you can't respect a Prophet, then that tells alot about your character. You think that you are degrading them but you are actually degrading yourself.

Faith wrote:

Answer to you marco
You said:"Israel has killed about 5000 civilians in 58 years of fighting Palestinian terrorism and external attacks on its sovereignty."
Again, let me correct your information. Palestinians killed by Israel from 2000 to 2005 alone are 4171 and you are talking about since 1958.
You said: "Suicide bombers started in 1980. And you know what? There wasn't all that much violence before that time."
So during that time all the Palestinians who died, you don't consider that violence?
I was waiting for the answer when I said many councils of UN condemn Israrel. You couldn't come up with an illogical argument for that...?

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faith wrote:

(Quran: 2: 1-15)
"1 ALIF, Lam, Mim.
2 This Scripture(Quran) there is no doubt in it, is a Guidance for the reverent
3 who believe in the Unseen, and establish the Salat, and out of what We have provided them with, they do spend;
4 and who believe in what has been revealed to you (Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him)), and in what was revealed before you (to the other Prophets (Peace Be Upon Them)), and regarding the Hereafter they firmly believe.
5 These are upon Guidance from their Rabb(God), and these are themselves the successful.
6 surely those who reject Faith it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them they will not believe.
7 Allah has set a seal upon their hearts, and upon their hearing, and upon their sight is a veil; and for them is a great chastisement.
8 And of mankind there are some who say: We believe in Allah and in the Future Day, but they are not at all Believers.
9 Feign would they deceive Allah and those who believe. But they do not deceive any except themselves, and they do not perceive.
10 In their hearts is a disease, so Allah increased to them the disease, and for them is a painful punishment because they used to belie.
11 And when it is said to them : Do not make mischief in the earth, they say : Verily we are in fact peacemakers.
12 Is it not that they themselves are the mischief-makers? But they do not perceive.
13 And when it is said to them: Believe as the people believe, they say: Shall we believe as the fools have believed? Is it not that surely they are themselves the fools? But they do not know.
14 And when they meet those who believe, they say: We believe. But when they are alone with their Evil-ones, they say: We are really with you, we by ourselves were only mocking.
15 Allah throws back the mockery on them, and leaves them along in their trespasses blindly wandering on."