There is excellent, overwhelming evidence that Obama was born in HAWAII, and the Kenyan government has said that it investigated the "born in Kenya" story and found that there was nothing to it. And, in fact, only 23 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, so the notion that Obama's mother went ALONE to Kenya (WND has proven that Obama senior was in Hawaii) to give birth in a sub-standard hospital and that she and Obama were two of the 21---despite Kenya saying that it never happened---is extremely unlikely.<quoted text>
That is called making an assumption. You have no evidence whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii or Kenya and you also assume he did not get a foreign student scholarship.
But what if he was born in Hawaii but did get a foreign student scholarship, like Anwar al-Awlaki. We know al-Awlaki was born in Las Cruses, NM and that he DID get a foreign student scholarship. See, it has happened before, it is entirely possible that it had happened before or after.
And if Obama did get a foreign Student scholarship and he was born in Hawaii, he committed fraud. But if he was born in Kenya and also got a foreign student scholarship, he has also committed fraud.
On the other hand, we have the evidence of Obama's Hawaii birth certificate, which he has shown twice (the official short form and the long form). And he has shown both the images of them on the Web and the actual physical copies to the press. The officials in Hawaii OF BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed the facts on Obama's birth certificate, and indeed the most recent confirmation was accepted as evidence by the CONSERVATIVE secretary of state of Arizona. And, in addition to the confirmations of the officials, Obama's birth in Hawaii is confirmed also by the Index Data file, and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers (which were sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii and only by the DOH of Hawaii), and by the witness who recalls writing home to her father, named Stanley, about the recent birth in Hawaii to a woman named Stanley.
And, there is this:
Re: " We know al-Awlaki was born in Las Cruses, NM and that he DID get a foreign student scholarship. "
We know that he was registered as a foreign student because he attended the university on a foreign student visa. He got a foreign student visa by actually having papers proving that he was born in Yemen when he applied IN YEMEN. To do the same thing, Obama would have had to have gone to a foreign country (say Kenya or Indonesia) and produce papers showing that he was born there, and get a passport from that country, and then a foreign student visa from the USA on that passport. But Indonesia says that Obama was never a citizen of Indonesian (and you can ask whether he had an Indonesian passport of the Indonesian embassy, and they will tell you he didn't) and the government of Kenya says that he was not born there.
Re: "And if Obama did get a foreign Student scholarship and he was born in Hawaii, he committed fraud."
Yes, if he said anything that was a lie in an application for a scholarship it would be considered fraud. For example if he had claimed to be an angel or a trolly car, that would be fraud. The fact that you can say "If he did" does not make it that he did do something, and it is simply speculation. No one at Occidental has ever said that Obama got a foreign student scholarship, and as I said, it would be extremely unlikely because colleges want their foreign students to have had the experience of studying in those countries to add diversity, and Obama studied in a US high school.
Obama was BORN in the USA, and the idea that he applied as a foreign student was simply MADE UP by birthers. I can do the same thing. If Mitt Romney applied to college as a foreign student, he would be committing fraud.