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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#97885 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not think the HI DoH has lied but they have not answered all the questions. First is thyat they have not certified that the jpg image that Obama posted on the internet is a copy fo the document they sent him and
Huh? Birfoons wanted to have proof that he was born in Hawaii. Proof has been provided. CERTIFIED by Hawaii DOH. The original birth record states that he was born in Honolulu Hawaii at Kapiolani Hospital and that the delivering physician was David A Sinclair. CERTIFIED.

Birfoon fantasies about the jpg are moot. You need to move on. Perhaps you can solve the mystery of the source the mighty ponds of Hamstead and verify the theory of titlebats?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Get Real BirfoonLady. You believe he was born in Kenya and slurp up Sheriff Clueless Joe's slop, and that Hawaii DOH is lying about his Hawaiian birth.
BirfoonLady: "EVEN Hawaii DoH can LIE for the DNC"
BTW, just because he was born in Hawaii he was born a natural born citizen. Same was true for Elg. Her parentage was irrelevant. See Perkins v. Elg, 99 F.2d 408, 411 410 (App.D.C. 1938)
modified and affirmed, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#97886 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
2) is there any information that has been redacted in the Remarks Section.
No. If the pdf did not contain data in item 23 that was present on the original, the information in the pdf would not have "matched."

Grow up! Learn how to become an adult. UR a grown boy, Rougie, at least physically.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Get Real BirfoonLady. You believe he was born in Kenya and slurp up Sheriff Clueless Joe's slop, and that Hawaii DOH is lying about his Hawaiian birth.
BirfoonLady: "EVEN Hawaii DoH can LIE for the DNC"
BTW, just because he was born in Hawaii he was born a natural born citizen. Same was true for Elg. Her parentage was irrelevant. See Perkins v. Elg, 99 F.2d 408, 411 410 (App.D.C. 1938)
modified and affirmed, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#97887 Aug 7, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
WHY “BIRTHERS” GET NO RESPECT FROM THEIR EDUCATED BETTERS
1.“Birthers” never post anything of substance – all of it is rumor, innuendo, speculation, and outright lies.
2.“Birther” posts are filled with tiresome invective stemming from their intense loathing and irrational hatred of the man who is their president.
3.“Birthers” never learned before they dropped out of high school how to substantiate their empty claims – by citation to authoritative sources, such as, controlling case law, primary documents, the United States Constitution, statutory law, the learned opinion of scholars in treatises or academic journals, or unbiased fact witnesses.
4.“Birthers” rely entirely on their own uninformed opinions or opinion statements of persons of whom no one has ever heard.
5.“Birthers” are unable to stick to the topic, choosing instead to post all manner of irrelevant and anecdotal material.
6.“Birthers” are inconsistent in their positions claiming to be conservative or libertarian, yet taking positions that are contrary to the true conservative and libertarian principles that have been posted on this site.
7.“Birthers” have a naďve one-dimensional, stereotypic view of the world – characterizing those who hold intelligent and educated views as “libtards,” while reluctantly acknowledging those who are true conservatives or, at least, moderate Republicans, such as Willard Romney, as country club Republicans or RINOs.
8.“Birthers” have no sense of what constitutes a hard fact v. one that is trivial.
9.“Birthers” have no response to and ignore hard and verifiable facts that are often presented on this site, such as, this statement:
So true, Terri,and you`ve only exposed the tip of the iceberg.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97888 Aug 7, 2012
OBAMA’S COLLEGE CLASSMATE:‘THE OBAMA SCANDAL IS AT COLUMBIA’-- Posted on August 6, 2012

Wayne Allyn Root is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee. He now serves as Chairman of the Libertarian National Campaign Committee. He is the […]

wayne@rootforamerica.com
Author's Website

I am President Obama’s classmate at Columbia University, Class of ’83. I am also one of the most accurate Las Vegas oddsmakers and prognosticators. Accurate enough that I was awarded my own star on the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. And I smell something rotten in Denmark. Obama has a big skeleton in his closet. It’s his college records. Call it “gut instinct” but my gut is almost always right. Obama has a secret hidden at Columbia- and it’s a bad one that threatens to bring down his presidency. Gut instinct is how I’ve made my living for 29 years since graduating Columbia.

Obama and his infamous strategist David Axelrod understand how to play political hardball, the best it’s ever been played. Team Obama has decided to distract America’s voters by condemning Mitt Romney for not releasing enough years of his tax returns. It’s the perfect cover. Obama knows the best defense is a bold offense. Just keep attacking Mitt and blaming him for secrecy and evasion, while accusing him of having a scandal that doesn’t exist. Then ask followers like Senator Harry Reid to chase the lead. The U.S. Senate Majority Leader appears to now be making up stories out of thin air, about tax returns he knows nothing about. It’s a cynical, brilliant, and vicious strategy. Make Romney defend, so he can’t attack the real Obama scandal.

This is classic Axelrod. Obama has won several elections in his career by slandering his opponents and leaking sealed documents. Not only do these insinuations and leaks ruin the credibility and reputation of Obama’s opponents, they keep them on the defensive and off Obama’s trail of sealed documents.

By attacking Romney’s tax records, Obama’s socialist cabal creates a problem that doesn’t exist. Is the U.S. Senate Majority Leader making up stories out of thin air? You decide. But the reason for this baseless attack is clear- make Romney defend, so not only is he “off message” but it helps the media ignore the real Obama scandal.

My answer for Romney? Call Obama’s bluff.

Romney should call a press conference and issue a challenge in front of the nation. He should agree to release more of his tax returns, only if Obama unseals his college records. Simple and straight-forward. Mitt should ask “What could possibly be so embarrassing in your college records from 29 years ago that you are afraid to let America’s voters see? If it’s THAT bad, maybe it’s something the voters ought to see.” Suddenly the tables are turned. Now Obama is on the defensive.

My bet is that Obama will never unseal his records because they contain information that could destroy his chances for re-election. Once this challenge is made public, my prediction is you’ll never hear about Mitt’s tax returns ever again.

Why are the college records, of a 51-year-old President of the United States, so important to keep secret? I think I know the answer.

If anyone should have questions about Obama’s record at Columbia University, it’s me. We both graduated (according to Obama) Columbia University, Class of ’83. We were both (according to Obama) Pre-Law and Political Science majors. And I thought I knew most everyone at Columbia. I certainly thought I’d heard of all of my fellow Political Science majors. But not Obama (or as he was known then- Barry Soetoro). I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him. And none of the classmates that I knew at Columbia have ever met him, saw him, or heard of him.

But don’t take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported in 2008 that Fox News randomly called 400 of our Columbia classmates and never found one who had ever met Obama.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97889 Aug 7, 2012
Now all of this mystery could be easily and instantly dismissed if Obama released his Columbia transcripts to the media. But even after serving as President for 3 1/2 years he refuses to unseal his college records. Shouldn’t the media be as relentless in pursuit of Obama’s records as Romney’s? Shouldn’t they be digging into Obama’s past–beyond what he has written about himself–with the same boundless enthusiasm as Mitt’s?

The first question I’d ask is, if you had great grades, why would you seal your records? So let’s assume Obama got poor grades. Why not release the records? He’s president of the free world, for gosh sakes. He’s commander-in-chief of the U.S. military. Who’d care about some poor grades from three decades ago, right? So then what’s the problem? Doesn’t that make the media suspicious? Something doesn’t add up.

Secondly, if he had poor grades at Occidental, how did he get admitted to an Ivy League university in the first place? And if his grades at Columbia were awful, how’d he ever get into Harvard Law School? So again those grades must have been great, right? So why spend millions to keep them sealed?

Third, how did Obama pay for all these fancy schools without coming from a wealthy background? If he had student loans or scholarships, would he not have to maintain good grades?

I can only think of one answer that would explain this mystery.

Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to schools, did he ever change his citizenship back? I’m betting not.

If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University records I believe you’d find that:

A) He rarely ever attended class.

B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

D) He paid little for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign students like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What are you afraid of?

If it’s okay for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to go on a fishing expedition about Romney’s taxes (even though he knows absolutely nothing about them nor will release his own), then I think I can do the same thing. But as Obama’s Columbia Class of ’83 classmate, at least I have more standing to make educated guesses.

It’s time for Mitt to go on the attack and call Obama’s bluff.

Wayne Allyn Root is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee and the author of “The Conscience of a Libertarian.” Read more at his website: www.ROOTforAmerica.com
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#97890 Aug 7, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
<quoted text>
Try walking alone after dark on the south side of
Chicago? Then,and only then will you learn exactly
what CCW actually means?? Brain dead statements are
so degrading,shows no grasp of reality..guess thats
a Lefty/Commies thinking process??? LOL...No place
for weapons uh??????????
Appers you`ve slashed yourself again, this time in the brain. Typical birther response, totallyh irrelevant with subject at hand.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#97891 Aug 7, 2012
Appears
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97892 Aug 7, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
UR in a dream world, Rougie. The original place of birth, Kapiolani Gynecological and Maternity Hospital, with DOCTOR'S signature is clearly stated.
And, BTW, if putative remarks in box 23 were omitted, the BC would not have matched. UR FOS.
Grow up!
<quoted text>
Yep but that "race" thingy sure is strange; African? The registrar's signature is also suspicious. The "V" looks like a "U", the "K" doesn't look like a "K" at all and what are those marks after the supposed "K"? It is a computer generated document which proves absolutely nothing. Why was a computer generated document used at all? A simple "copy" of the original would put this to rest but for some reason we've not seen that. What is the explanation given as to why some fields are typed and some hand written? You don't have the answers and neither do I. However, I'm not so naive to believe something is true just because someone says it is. Why don't you climb down from your little rocking horse now Wojar.

Where are you teaching at now Wojar? <snickers>

LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97894 Aug 7, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Appers you`ve slashed yourself again, this time in the brain. Typical birther response, totallyh irrelevant with subject at hand.
As are you shatforbrains. DAB
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97895 Aug 7, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
Just checking: Did birfoons matter today?
No?
That's what I thought.
Did street trash matter today?

No.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#97896 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Well, I know Jacques does not want to Tete a tete on the voter issue, so I will just post mine;
Oh, I will stand but my opinion that the vast majority of voter frauds are committed by the Loony-Tooney-Lefties.
Mississippi NAACP Leader Sent To Prison For 10 Counts of Voter Fraud…
Posted on July 31, 2012 by Cowboy Byte
But ... but ... but ... voter ID laws are raaaacist!
While NAACP President Benjamin Jealous lashed out at new state laws requiring photo ID for voting, an NAACP executive sits in prison, sentenced for carrying out a massive voter fraud scheme.
In a story ignored by the national media, in April a Tunica County, Miss., jury convicted NAACP official Lessadolla Sowers on 10 counts of fraudulently casting absentee ballots. Sowers is identified on an NAACP website as a member of the Tunica County NAACP Executive Committee.
Sowers received a five-year prison term for each of the 10 counts, but Circuit Court Judge Charles Webster permitted Sowers to serve those terms concurrently, according to the Tunica Times, the only media outlet to cover the sentencing.
“This crime cuts against the fabric of our free society,” Judge Webster said.
Sowers was found guilty of voting in the names of Carrie Collins, Walter Howard, Sheena Shelton, Alberta Pickett, Draper Cotton and Eddie Davis. She was also convicted of voting in the names of four dead persons: James L. Young, Dora Price, Dorothy Harris, and David Ross.
Please explain how the above proves that Dems cheat more at election time than Repubs.Oh, and objecting as is his right to ID proof to vote (he`s wrong) is fraud?

Oh, no comment about American er hmm lady going to bat for you and totally in left field? Comment?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#97897 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
OBAMA’S COLLEGE CLASSMATE:‘THE OBAMA SCANDAL IS AT COLUMBIA’-- Posted on August 6, 2012
Wayne Allyn Root is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee. He now serves as Chairman of the Libertarian National Campaign Committee. He is the […]
wayne@rootforamerica.com
Author's Website
I am President Obama’s classmate at Columbia University, Class of ’83. I am also one of the most accurate Las Vegas oddsmakers and prognosticators. Accurate enough that I was awarded my own star on the Las Vegas Walk of Stars.
Woo-wee! You wanna buy a bridge?

To gain entrance into Harvard, he had to request his his transcripts from Columbia and Occidental sent to the Law School.

UR a birfoon!

Root: "I am President Obama’s classmate at Columbia University, Class of ’83."

Right there he admits he was his classmate. You think he wasn't?

Wanna buy a bridge?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97898 Aug 7, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, Rougie, UR not quibbling, UR in another world. The information matches, and that includes the "remarks" section, item 23.
Grow up!
A major change, such as place of birth in a foreign country would not merely be noted in item 23, leaving POB Hawaii, and the hospital, and delivering physician intact. A major change after 90 days would have required an amendment, which would not simply be a "remark" in item 23, and the BC would be clearly marked as amended. The amendment would be noted in the index data.
UR simply living in a dream world.
Now how could a BC signed by the delivering physician at Kapiolani be simply amended to say POB Kenya? RU on crack?
<quoted text>
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97899 Aug 7, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Appers you`ve slashed yourself again, this time in the brain. Typical birther response, totallyh irrelevant with subject at hand.
You're irrelevant dumbazzedbastard.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97900 Aug 7, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
No. If the pdf did not contain data in item 23 that was present on the original, the information in the pdf would not have "matched."
Grow up! Learn how to become an adult. UR a grown boy, Rougie, at least physically.
<quoted text>
Like I said, all we have to do is keep the issue alive and let the Independent voters decide in November. Than it will all be over but the whaling and nashing of teeth.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#97901 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The first question I’d ask is, if you had great grades, why would you seal your records? So let’s assume Obama got poor grades. Why not release the records? He’s president of the free world, for gosh sakes. He’s commander-in-chief of the U.S. military. Who’d care about some poor grades from three decades ago, right? So then what’s the problem? Doesn’t that make the media suspicious? Something doesn’t add up.
Secondly, if he had poor grades at Occidental, how did he get admitted to an Ivy League university in the first place?
Since he didn't "seal" his records, the entire commentary can be thrown in the trash.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97902 Aug 7, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
No. If the pdf did not contain data in item 23 that was present on the original, the information in the pdf would not have "matched."
Grow up! Learn how to become an adult. UR a grown boy, Rougie, at least physically.
<quoted text>
She did not use the word "matched" now did she? She said the information was "correct" which does not mean that there is anything missing.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#97903 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said, all we have to do is keep the issue alive and let the Independent voters decide in November. Than it will all be over but the whaling and nashing of teeth.
Sorry, Rougie, your delusional birfoon issue has nothing to do with November. Birfoons are not a factor.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
No. If the pdf did not contain data in item 23 that was present on the original, the information in the pdf would not have "matched."
Grow up! Learn how to become an adult. UR a grown boy, Rougie, at least physically.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97904 Aug 7, 2012
Why is the stock market creeping upwards these days? Unemployment is going UP. The cost of fuel is going UP! Production is going DOWN! GM is showing signs of trouble again! But the investors are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and it is Mitt with the light.
The higher the stock market goes, the worse it is for Obama!!!! Oh no, just look at this time four years ago when everything was creeping downward as Obama looked like he was going to win the election.
Yep, most stock market investors are looking about six months ahead and I guess it is looking better all the time.
The last chance Justice Gingsberg has to announce her retirement is mid-September with any hope of Obama being able to announce her replacement. If she wait until after the election, whom ever is the president in late January will decide.
Yep, Thurgood Marshall waited though eight years of Reagan only to have Bush win but hew could not wait any longer as he knew his health was failing and Bush picked .... Clarence Thomas!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#97905 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
She did not use the word "matched" now did she? She said the information was "correct" which does not mean that there is anything missing.
Huh? She?

Do try to keep up. Alvin Onaka, Ph. D. is not a "she", and he did say "matches"—TWICE—in official certified documents.

wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
No. If the pdf did not contain data in item 23 that was present on the original, the information in the pdf would not have "matched."
Grow up! Learn how to become an adult. UR a grown boy, Rougie, at least physically.

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