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Chicago, IL

#97867 Aug 7, 2012
Curious Voter wrote:
Why is this still an issue - if it was real, it should be easy to prove.

Everyone else that is a US citizen can prove it.

Obama must be hiding something.

As good a talker as he is, he ought to be able to take 15 minutes and explain all.
He proved it. It isn't an issue and never was Too bad some are too angry and ignorant to grasp this

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#97868 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for bringing this point up. If the child was not born in Hawaii they will give that child a Hawaiian BC BUT will annotate the original place of birth in the Remarks Section.
No one has ever testified that the jpg image that Obama has posted on the internet was 1) a copy of the document sent to him and 2) where there was any information that was DELETED from the Remarks Section.
The only thinh DoH has said that the information on the jpg was correct. Again, no comment if any information was missing or whether or not the ipg was a copy of the document they sent him.
YOU ARE BUSTED!!!
UR in a dream world, Rougie. The original place of birth, Kapiolani Gynecological and Maternity Hospital, with DOCTOR'S signature is clearly stated.

And, BTW, if putative remarks in box 23 were omitted, the BC would not have matched. UR FOS.

Grow up!
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Total baloney. You are dreaming. None of the above is true. In 1961 Hawaii would only issue a birth certificate listing a Hawaii place of birth on it if there was actual proof that the child was born at that place. In Obama's case it was a hospital, Kapiolani. If a child was born outside of a hospital, Hawaii insisted on a witness statement.
Grand Birther

Columbus, OH

#97869 Aug 7, 2012
Just checking: Did birfoons matter today?

No?

That's what I thought.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#97870 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for bringing this point up. If the child was not born in Hawaii they will give that child a Hawaiian BC BUT will annotate the original place of birth in the Remarks Section.
Sorry, child, but if the child were not born in Hawaii, the BC would not say born in Hawaii at Kapiolani with David A. Sinclair's signature as delivering physician.

There's no such thing as BC that says, in box 23, "We were just joking he was not really born at Kapiolani, David A. Sinclair, M.D., was just funnin'".

Grow up!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97871 Aug 7, 2012
I think he's already been busted but will serve out his term to avoid an all out civil uprising. I'm waiting for his signature move; sneaking out the backdoor. In this day and age, history can be changed with the push of a button. A person can literally be created in cyberspace. Concrete evidence is the only resolution to this but Obama not only doesn't want his BC seen but also most of his past. Simple logic dictates that one ask "why". When this simple question is avoided time and again, one would be foolish not to inquire further.

Since: May 10

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#97872 Aug 7, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Get Real BirfoonLady. You believe he was born in Kenya and slurp up Sheriff Clueless Joe's slop, and that Hawaii DOH is lying about his Hawaiian birth.
BirfoonLady: "EVEN Hawaii DoH can LIE for the DNC"
BTW, just because he was born in Hawaii he was born a natural born citizen. Same was true for Elg. Her parentage was irrelevant. See Perkins v. Elg, 99 F.2d 408, 411 410 (App.D.C. 1938)
modified and affirmed, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).
I do not think the HI DoH has lied but they have not answered all the questions. First is thyat they have not certified that the jpg image that Obama posted on the internet is a copy fo the document they sent him and 2) is there any information that has been redacted in the Remarks Section.
All DoH has said is that the "information" is correct and that is not the same thing. As Terri Tunna would know that at any of the military service academies that would be called quibbling! You do know what quibbling means, don't you?
American Lady

Danville, KY

#97874 Aug 7, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
Just checking: Did birfoons matter today?
No?
That's what I thought.
Did "what" you just typed?
No?
What I thought :~)

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#97875 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for bringing this point up. If the child was not born in Hawaii they will give that child a Hawaiian BC BUT will annotate the original place of birth in the Remarks Section.
RU on drugs?

If the child was not born in Hawaii it would say POB Hawaii? At Kapiolani? With signature of David A. Sinclair M.D. as delivering physician?

What RU smoking?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97877 Aug 7, 2012
How come the Europeans "get it". Now this is funny.
http://www.youtube.com/v/erYpXzE9Pxs%26

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#97878 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not think the HI DoH has lied but they have not answered all the questions. First is thyat they have not certified that the jpg image that Obama posted on the internet is a copy fo the document they sent him and 2) is there any information that has been redacted in the Remarks Section.
All DoH has said is that the "information" is correct and that is not the same thing. As Terri Tunna would know that at any of the military service academies that would be called quibbling! You do know what quibbling means, don't you?
Sorry, Rougie, UR not quibbling, UR in another world. The information matches, and that includes the "remarks" section, item 23.

Grow up!

A major change, such as place of birth in a foreign country would not merely be noted in item 23, leaving POB Hawaii, and the hospital, and delivering physician intact. A major change after 90 days would have required an amendment, which would not simply be a "remark" in item 23, and the BC would be clearly marked as amended. The amendment would be noted in the index data.

UR simply living in a dream world.

Now how could a BC signed by the delivering physician at Kapiolani be simply amended to say POB Kenya? RU on crack?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Get Real BirfoonLady. You believe he was born in Kenya and slurp up Sheriff Clueless Joe's slop, and that Hawaii DOH is lying about his Hawaiian birth.
BirfoonLady: "EVEN Hawaii DoH can LIE for the DNC"
BTW, just because he was born in Hawaii he was born a natural born citizen. Same was true for Elg. Her parentage was irrelevant. See Perkins v. Elg, 99 F.2d 408, 411 410 (App.D.C. 1938)
modified and affirmed, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97879 Aug 7, 2012
Now, how many ties has Obama claimed things were his "number one priority"!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97882 Aug 7, 2012
Ya know, everything depends on what the meaning of "is" is! When Obama speaks to any group, he tells that group what he thinks they want to hear. Like he would tell one group he was born in Hawaii and another he was born in Kenya. I sure wish he would get his act together as no one really knows what the truth is.

Number One Priority? Obama's Actually Had 12 of Those Since Taking Office---Published: 1/23/2012

In December, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney declared that ensuring "middle-class Americans don't have their taxes go up on January 1st" was the president's "number one priority." Perhaps it was, but what Carney failed to mention was that it was just one of up to 12 "number one priorities" declared by the president since taking office - many of them often conflicting or overlapping.

That's certainly not the media spin on every one of those "number one priority" items either. Network journalists have either mentioned or quoted Obama having a "number one priority" 26 times since he took office - from the economy, to healthcare, to national security. Not once have they pointed out that he often has multiple such priorities at the same time. In, fact, in his three years as president, ABC, CBS and NBC have only mentioned five of the 12 "number one priorities." And only the economy was mentioned by all three networks.

Obama started off 2010 with a bold statement about the state of the economy. "One in 10 Americans still can't find work. That's why creating jobs has to be our number one priority in 2010." Network journalists dutifully repeated the claim, citing it as the president's top priority 50 percent of the times (13 out of 26) times they discussed them. ABC mentioned it seven times.

In February, 2010, Obama reminded everyone that jobs had been in number one priority in 2009, not 2010. Responding to CBS anchor Katie Couric's question about whether he wished he had waited on healthcare reform, Obama said: "No, because keep in mind jobs were my number one priority last year."

Of course, shortly before that, on Jan. 26, he told ABC's "Good Morning America" something slightly different. "Here's what I said, was that our number one priority was stopping the economic contraction." Obama went on to discuss jobs, but as a secondary item.

Less than two weeks before that, on Jan. 14, NBC's Matt Lauer told viewers that the Haitian earthquake filled that role. Speaking to NBC anchor Brian Williams, he added, "And, Brian, the president reiterated that the number one priority is getting out there and saving lives and getting supplies and medical assistance to people in need."

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97883 Aug 7, 2012
But jobs were still at the top of Obama's plans in 2011, according to ABC's David Wright. "At the White House, creating jobs is now the number one priority because the president knows keeping his job may depend on it," he told viewers Aug. 31.

But if jobs had been a "number one priority" all along, it wasn't alone. When Osama bin Laden was finally tracked down, that too became a "number one priority" … for 2009 and every day since. Vice President Joe Biden spoke to the troops at Fort Campbell, Ky., on May 6, 2011 about bin Laden. He told them Obama "decided, when he got into office, because of the fight you all were in from the beginning, that the number one priority was to get Osama bin Laden."

So that "number one priority" lasted from Jan. 20, 2009, to May, 2011. In that time, it conflicted with eight other similar "number one" administration priorities from responding to the BP oil spill to "thinking about you and your families each and every day."

Not only did Obama's "number one priorities" often conflict or overlap, but what journalists claimed were the priorities were different still. On Dec. 6, 2009, when jobs, the economy and jobs, or Osama bin Laden were supposedly the priority, New York magazine's John Heilman told Chris Matthews it was healthcare reform. Matthews asked Heilmann, "What's his number one priority right now?" Heilmann was clear: "Well, I think if health care fails, his presidency in ruins."

He wasn't alone. ABC's George Stephanopoulos made the same claim when speaking about healthcare to Sen. Kent Conrad, D-ND, saying, "both you and President Obama have really said that the number one priority has to be to get costs under control."

Sometimes, those priorities just get entirely confusing. In one Jan. 5, 2012, press conference, Press Secretary Jay Carney mentioned two separate "number one priorities" within a few minutes. Those included the amorphous idea of facing challenges head on and the more typical "doing everything he can within his power to help the American people, to grow the economy and to create jobs."

Obama nears the end of his first term as president having averaged four "number one priorities" each year.
http://www.mrc.org/node/38728

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#97884 Aug 7, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
Just checking: Did birfoons matter today?
No?
That's what I thought.
Yes we did because every time the issue comes up, another INDEPENDENT VOTER thinks, "What is the REAL truth"? And all we need is enough Independent voters to switch sides and Obama is outta there in January!
Still think the TEA Party is dead? How about the Religious Right who showed up at Chick-fil-As last week?!? Go a head and keep your heads buried in the sands of time and it will all be over before you know it and Obama will be just a bad dream!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#97885 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not think the HI DoH has lied but they have not answered all the questions. First is thyat they have not certified that the jpg image that Obama posted on the internet is a copy fo the document they sent him and
Huh? Birfoons wanted to have proof that he was born in Hawaii. Proof has been provided. CERTIFIED by Hawaii DOH. The original birth record states that he was born in Honolulu Hawaii at Kapiolani Hospital and that the delivering physician was David A Sinclair. CERTIFIED.

Birfoon fantasies about the jpg are moot. You need to move on. Perhaps you can solve the mystery of the source the mighty ponds of Hamstead and verify the theory of titlebats?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Get Real BirfoonLady. You believe he was born in Kenya and slurp up Sheriff Clueless Joe's slop, and that Hawaii DOH is lying about his Hawaiian birth.
BirfoonLady: "EVEN Hawaii DoH can LIE for the DNC"
BTW, just because he was born in Hawaii he was born a natural born citizen. Same was true for Elg. Her parentage was irrelevant. See Perkins v. Elg, 99 F.2d 408, 411 410 (App.D.C. 1938)
modified and affirmed, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#97886 Aug 7, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
2) is there any information that has been redacted in the Remarks Section.
No. If the pdf did not contain data in item 23 that was present on the original, the information in the pdf would not have "matched."

Grow up! Learn how to become an adult. UR a grown boy, Rougie, at least physically.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Get Real BirfoonLady. You believe he was born in Kenya and slurp up Sheriff Clueless Joe's slop, and that Hawaii DOH is lying about his Hawaiian birth.
BirfoonLady: "EVEN Hawaii DoH can LIE for the DNC"
BTW, just because he was born in Hawaii he was born a natural born citizen. Same was true for Elg. Her parentage was irrelevant. See Perkins v. Elg, 99 F.2d 408, 411 410 (App.D.C. 1938)
modified and affirmed, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#97887 Aug 7, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
WHY “BIRTHERS” GET NO RESPECT FROM THEIR EDUCATED BETTERS
1.“Birthers” never post anything of substance – all of it is rumor, innuendo, speculation, and outright lies.
2.“Birther” posts are filled with tiresome invective stemming from their intense loathing and irrational hatred of the man who is their president.
3.“Birthers” never learned before they dropped out of high school how to substantiate their empty claims – by citation to authoritative sources, such as, controlling case law, primary documents, the United States Constitution, statutory law, the learned opinion of scholars in treatises or academic journals, or unbiased fact witnesses.
4.“Birthers” rely entirely on their own uninformed opinions or opinion statements of persons of whom no one has ever heard.
5.“Birthers” are unable to stick to the topic, choosing instead to post all manner of irrelevant and anecdotal material.
6.“Birthers” are inconsistent in their positions claiming to be conservative or libertarian, yet taking positions that are contrary to the true conservative and libertarian principles that have been posted on this site.
7.“Birthers” have a naďve one-dimensional, stereotypic view of the world – characterizing those who hold intelligent and educated views as “libtards,” while reluctantly acknowledging those who are true conservatives or, at least, moderate Republicans, such as Willard Romney, as country club Republicans or RINOs.
8.“Birthers” have no sense of what constitutes a hard fact v. one that is trivial.
9.“Birthers” have no response to and ignore hard and verifiable facts that are often presented on this site, such as, this statement:
So true, Terri,and you`ve only exposed the tip of the iceberg.

Since: May 10

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#97888 Aug 7, 2012
OBAMA’S COLLEGE CLASSMATE:‘THE OBAMA SCANDAL IS AT COLUMBIA’-- Posted on August 6, 2012

Wayne Allyn Root is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee. He now serves as Chairman of the Libertarian National Campaign Committee. He is the […]

wayne@rootforamerica.com
Author's Website

I am President Obama’s classmate at Columbia University, Class of ’83. I am also one of the most accurate Las Vegas oddsmakers and prognosticators. Accurate enough that I was awarded my own star on the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. And I smell something rotten in Denmark. Obama has a big skeleton in his closet. It’s his college records. Call it “gut instinct” but my gut is almost always right. Obama has a secret hidden at Columbia- and it’s a bad one that threatens to bring down his presidency. Gut instinct is how I’ve made my living for 29 years since graduating Columbia.

Obama and his infamous strategist David Axelrod understand how to play political hardball, the best it’s ever been played. Team Obama has decided to distract America’s voters by condemning Mitt Romney for not releasing enough years of his tax returns. It’s the perfect cover. Obama knows the best defense is a bold offense. Just keep attacking Mitt and blaming him for secrecy and evasion, while accusing him of having a scandal that doesn’t exist. Then ask followers like Senator Harry Reid to chase the lead. The U.S. Senate Majority Leader appears to now be making up stories out of thin air, about tax returns he knows nothing about. It’s a cynical, brilliant, and vicious strategy. Make Romney defend, so he can’t attack the real Obama scandal.

This is classic Axelrod. Obama has won several elections in his career by slandering his opponents and leaking sealed documents. Not only do these insinuations and leaks ruin the credibility and reputation of Obama’s opponents, they keep them on the defensive and off Obama’s trail of sealed documents.

By attacking Romney’s tax records, Obama’s socialist cabal creates a problem that doesn’t exist. Is the U.S. Senate Majority Leader making up stories out of thin air? You decide. But the reason for this baseless attack is clear- make Romney defend, so not only is he “off message” but it helps the media ignore the real Obama scandal.

My answer for Romney? Call Obama’s bluff.

Romney should call a press conference and issue a challenge in front of the nation. He should agree to release more of his tax returns, only if Obama unseals his college records. Simple and straight-forward. Mitt should ask “What could possibly be so embarrassing in your college records from 29 years ago that you are afraid to let America’s voters see? If it’s THAT bad, maybe it’s something the voters ought to see.” Suddenly the tables are turned. Now Obama is on the defensive.

My bet is that Obama will never unseal his records because they contain information that could destroy his chances for re-election. Once this challenge is made public, my prediction is you’ll never hear about Mitt’s tax returns ever again.

Why are the college records, of a 51-year-old President of the United States, so important to keep secret? I think I know the answer.

If anyone should have questions about Obama’s record at Columbia University, it’s me. We both graduated (according to Obama) Columbia University, Class of ’83. We were both (according to Obama) Pre-Law and Political Science majors. And I thought I knew most everyone at Columbia. I certainly thought I’d heard of all of my fellow Political Science majors. But not Obama (or as he was known then- Barry Soetoro). I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him. And none of the classmates that I knew at Columbia have ever met him, saw him, or heard of him.

But don’t take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported in 2008 that Fox News randomly called 400 of our Columbia classmates and never found one who had ever met Obama.

Since: May 10

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#97889 Aug 7, 2012
Now all of this mystery could be easily and instantly dismissed if Obama released his Columbia transcripts to the media. But even after serving as President for 3 1/2 years he refuses to unseal his college records. Shouldn’t the media be as relentless in pursuit of Obama’s records as Romney’s? Shouldn’t they be digging into Obama’s past–beyond what he has written about himself–with the same boundless enthusiasm as Mitt’s?

The first question I’d ask is, if you had great grades, why would you seal your records? So let’s assume Obama got poor grades. Why not release the records? He’s president of the free world, for gosh sakes. He’s commander-in-chief of the U.S. military. Who’d care about some poor grades from three decades ago, right? So then what’s the problem? Doesn’t that make the media suspicious? Something doesn’t add up.

Secondly, if he had poor grades at Occidental, how did he get admitted to an Ivy League university in the first place? And if his grades at Columbia were awful, how’d he ever get into Harvard Law School? So again those grades must have been great, right? So why spend millions to keep them sealed?

Third, how did Obama pay for all these fancy schools without coming from a wealthy background? If he had student loans or scholarships, would he not have to maintain good grades?

I can only think of one answer that would explain this mystery.

Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to schools, did he ever change his citizenship back? I’m betting not.

If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University records I believe you’d find that:

A) He rarely ever attended class.

B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

D) He paid little for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign students like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What are you afraid of?

If it’s okay for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to go on a fishing expedition about Romney’s taxes (even though he knows absolutely nothing about them nor will release his own), then I think I can do the same thing. But as Obama’s Columbia Class of ’83 classmate, at least I have more standing to make educated guesses.

It’s time for Mitt to go on the attack and call Obama’s bluff.

Wayne Allyn Root is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee and the author of “The Conscience of a Libertarian.” Read more at his website: www.ROOTforAmerica.com
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#97890 Aug 7, 2012
Razors Edge wrote:
<quoted text>
Try walking alone after dark on the south side of
Chicago? Then,and only then will you learn exactly
what CCW actually means?? Brain dead statements are
so degrading,shows no grasp of reality..guess thats
a Lefty/Commies thinking process??? LOL...No place
for weapons uh??????????
Appers you`ve slashed yourself again, this time in the brain. Typical birther response, totallyh irrelevant with subject at hand.

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