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And for American er hmm Lady, this gun thing is neither political nor lefty rhetoric, it's a question of preserving innocent Americans' lives. Most people from other countries worldwide cannot comprehend this Dodge-Tombstone kind of gun play and murders.
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Should"ve addressed last one to Sioux. Apologies to American Lady.
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Jacques Ottawa wrote:
And for American er hmm Lady, this gun thing is neither political nor lefty rhetoric, it's a question of preserving innocent Americans' lives. Most people from other countries worldwide cannot comprehend this Dodge-Tombstone kind of gun play and murders.
Kind of like because we have guns we as American citizens cannot comprehend being unable to protect ourselves from our own government going door to door and killing children and families that they think oppose them. We can't comprehend being in the postition of citizens of Syria because we have the right to protect ourselves and bare arms. And it's because of that that you won't find it easy to take away our 2nd amendment rights, even as much as the progressives and liberals and the president would like to take it away. We will not allow ourselves to become Syria.

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Jacques,
I will bet that marauder has a history of alcohol and narcotics abuse.
The senseless violence will never end as long as alcohol plays a pivitol role.
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X Obama Supporter wrote:
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Kind of like because we have guns we as American citizens cannot comprehend being unable to protect ourselves from our own government going door to door and killing children and families that they think oppose them. We can't comprehend being in the postition of citizens of Syria because we have the right to protect ourselves and bare arms. And it's because of that that you won't find it easy to take away our 2nd amendment rights, even as much as the progressives and liberals and the president would like to take it away. We will not allow ourselves to become Syria.
Have you totally lost it? You compare the United States of America to Syria? What is the matter with you? I was not aware that your govt was attacking and bombing rebel cities and killing , so far, 19,000 civilians.

No one said that American citizens cannot have guns per se. But how about background checks, how about following up on multiple gun purchases - so that after thr 2nd, 3rd gun, flags are raised. Why are assault weapons allowed anyhow? By the time this Colorado killer bought his 3rd gun, don't you think someone should have started to check on him?

Your country is a wonderful one, generous, always one of the first to help when catastrophies occur anywhere in the world. This outpouring of generosity has again been highligted by thre recent unhappy harrasment of the school bus lady for whom generous Americans have raised over $700,000. And I could go on. This is why most foreigners cannot understand this gun fever and refusal as backed by the NRA for any kind of gun control. Not criticising the US, I don't do that, but asking questions and not understanding why the highest murder rate, or one of the 3 highest in the world is not a preoccpation of the populace.

Some will say this is none of my business. Well, 1) it is my business to comment on ANY country I want to comment on. Just leave out the bashing of the whole population as too many are wont to do here; and 2) Toronto. Calgare, Edmonton, Regina and Vancouver are infested with guns and gangs. Where are the handguns coming from seeing as they are almost 100% prohibited here in Canada? Apparently, and this has not been confirmed except by confessions of convicted felons, most hand guns are smuggled across the border, not by Americans , but by Canadians and landed immigrants who have no problem buying their weapons in the US either legally or on the abundant black market and easily smuggling them in to Canada.
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Jacques,
I will bet that marauder has a history of alcohol and narcotics abuse.
The senseless violence will never end as long as alcohol plays a pivitol role.
loose
And you believe that people like that (druggies and alcoholics)should have access to rifles, hand guns and assault weapons? Apparently, this guy was as cleans as a whistle. As I said, why was he not flagged when he bought his third and fourthguns? How do you account for the disparity in gun murders between the US and most other countries? Not easy access to guns, nooooo.

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Jacques,
One way to preserve innocent lives would be for America to adopt a strict zero-tolerance policy for drinking and driving.
Those archaic O.O8 blood-alcohol content laws give even moderate drinkers a false sense of security.
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Yes, gun lunatics who can buy them at will. Heaven forbid they be denied their 2nd amendment rights.
A ban on guns is not the answer. The only people without guns would be the citizens. The criminals would be loaded to the teeth. Now, that doesn't sound like a very good idea.....does it? You're never going to stop the guy that snaps or is crazy from the get go.

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Don't know why, Jacques.
I am not following the tragic story.
I am just stating that, from my experience, 20 years working every evening in an urban trauma center, I will state with confidence that as a general rule alcohol abuse is a primary contributing factor in all sorts of senseless violence.
You just don't hear about those stories because they are not as sensational and do not make good headlines.
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A ban on guns is not the answer. The only people without guns would be the citizens. The criminals would be loaded to the teeth. Now, that doesn't sound like a very good idea.....does it? You're never going to stop the guy that snaps or is crazy from the get go.
How come it works in the countries listed earlier on? You should know that criminals kill very few innocent citizens. They eliminate themselves instead (which is not a bad thing). Most murders are the kind that occur in places like Aurora or between family members or friends or in fits of drunken or drugged rage, where those people, in a properly-regulated gun culture would not own guns and would therefore not have them at the ready faced with the slightest provocation and in a drunken or drugged stupor.

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
By the way, ALL socialistic governments are Large, Bureaucratic governments.
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Terri Tanna wrote:
"NOT SO. Under Jesus of Nazareth there was only one person in charge."
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Well dah, YES. Ever hear of Augustus? And Augustus had many people carrying out his commands. Ever hear of Pontius Pilate? And who represented the Emperor in Greece, Egypt, Gaul, etc.?
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Tootsie, Toosie, Tootsie, Not all Dictatorships are Socialistic,
just as all women are not ladies and you are a perfect example of that.
Huh? Where does Rouge-the-Moron get the idea her post implied that all dictatorships are socialistic?

What a scatter-brain.
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You are claiming that the ancient Romans had a SOCIALISTIC GOVERNMENT? No wonder you were too stupid to be appointed to West Point.

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Jacques,
Those mass-murderers are seeking publicity and noteriety. Their 15 minutes of fame.
And the media hands that request to them on a silver platter every time. And the public gobbles it up.
It is a vicious cycle which feeds upon itself.
The public's insatiable desire to read and hear about man's inhumanity to man is half the problem.
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loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Those mass-murderers are seeking publicity and noteriety. Their 15 minutes of fame.
And the media hands that request to them on a silver platter every time. And the public gobbles it up.
It is a vicious cycle which feeds upon itself.
The public's insatiable desire to read and hear about man's inhumanity to man is half the problem.
loose
Youi write : "And the media hands that request to them on a silver platter every time. " You suggest the media should ignore the latest? This killer is an unknown. How could the media hand anything to him before his rampage? And why do you allow any gun dealer to sell guns to every Tom Dick and Harry? And how do you account for those glaring statistics showing the US endures 5 to 20 times more murders than comparable countries that HAVE some form of gun control? Do they not also have as many druggies, drunks, crazies in those countries? If I were you I would not have written what you did, namely, "And the media hands that requesst to them on a silver platter every time". No, you should have written "And the NRA, wussy politicians and gun dealers hand over guns to anyone, druggies, drunks, crazies on a silver platter". Much more appropriate.

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Jacques,
Those mass-murderers are seeking publicity and noteriety. Their 15 minutes of fame.
And the media hands that request to them on a silver platter every time. And the public gobbles it up.
It is a vicious cycle which feeds upon itself.
The public's insatiable desire to read and hear about man's inhumanity to man is half the problem.
loose
You mean no more Batman movies?

Mass murders aside and all the publicity, how sign of our hopeless and desperate times that a kids' movie should be up for an academy award, that a children's movie should have adults, yes, adults, standing in line 24/24 to see a movie they'll be able to see at will in a week or so, and some of those fools paying up to
$300 scalpers' prices for one ticket. Adult fans dressed in Batman and Robin costumes. We are in trouble. Deep trouble. Disturbing that our public has gone childish, brain dead and advertisers know it too, themselves also being childish, throwing puerile advertising at so-called adults, I'm remined off Progressive Insurance for example, what a joke and yet, disturbingly, it works.

And yet, we throw guns anyone who wants one. Why, some banks give you one if you open an account. Know what I'd do if they gave me a gun for opening an account? Turn it on them, hold them up, the stupid irresponsible numbskulls.
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"WILL BE??" Isn't his action then premature? But in the meantime please cite the "state law" that purports to override Article VI of the United States Constituion. Thank you.
When did any one ever prove that Barack Obama should be the exception to the requirements of Article II Section 1 of The United States Constitution? I don't believe that any one should put them self above The Constitution.
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Jokers then and now

Back in 1996 when the internet was still a novelty, the media created a firestorm that sucked all the momentum out of the campaign of a conservative candidate for the US senate who had jumped to an erroneous conclusion about a vocal critic. Illinois US Senate candidate Al Salvi, then age 36, had been accused of being too radical for Illinois because, among many charges, he vocally supported the Second Amendment.

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Why do I suspect that in 2012 the media will not be rushing to condemn one of their own, Brian Ross, for an equally boneheaded rush to judgment about someone in the Tea Party who happens to share the same name as accused Aurora Colorado shooter James Holmes?

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/07/j...
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Youi write : "And the media hands that request to them on a silver platter every time. " You suggest the media should ignore the latest? This killer is an unknown. How could the media hand anything to him before his rampage? And why do you allow any gun dealer to sell guns to every Tom Dick and Harry? And how do you account for those glaring statistics showing the US endures 5 to 20 times more murders than comparable countries that HAVE some form of gun control? Do they not also have as many druggies, drunks, crazies in those countries? If I were you I would not have written what you did, namely, "And the media hands that requesst to them on a silver platter every time". No, you should have written "And the NRA, wussy politicians and gun dealers hand over guns to anyone, druggies, drunks, crazies on a silver platter". Much more appropriate.
Jacques
Hey Jockstrap, what can a gun do on it's own? Nothing. Guns are not the problem.
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He's so easy to frighten. LOL
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Hey Jockstrap, what can a gun do on it's own? Nothing. Guns are not the problem.
I somehow cannot get past that kind of ignorance.
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State Rights
Treaties Do Not Supersede
the Constitution

Here's what Thomas Jefferson said on the right to renounce treaties:

"Compacts then, between a nation and a nation, are obligatory on them as by the same moral law which obliges individuals to observe their compacts. There are circumstances, however, which sometimes excuse the non-performance of contracts between man and man; so are there also between nation and nation. When performance, for instance, becomes impossible, non-performance is not immoral; so if performance becomes self-destructive to the party, the law of self-preservation overrules the law of obligation in others".

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/stateright...

The Small Arms Treaty vs. the U.S. Constitution

The purpose of writing this article is to set the record straight so that people will
understand the difference between the proper use of the treaty power, and the improper use
of the treaty power, rather than have the people be misled by public officials who intend to
deceive Americans by its improper use. Improper treaties are not law!

Despite the current great worry about the Small Arms Treaty being able to prohibit
American citizens from owning firearms, there exist two, even greater worries:
(1) The ignorant status of many people in not realizing what tragedy will to occur to their
freedom and liberty if we allow a National Gun Registry to be created. The Small Arms
Treaty initiates such a registry. It also unlocks the door for the communist-led United
Nations to enter into our Bill of Rights, and tamper with all other basic natural rights.

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******No foreign country nor organization (such as the United Nations) has the power to alter,
override, supersede, revoke, rescind or block the fundamental principles or the primary
directives laid down within these precious documents: The Bill of Rights and the U.S.
Constitution.******

http://www.libertygunrights.com/2TreatySet10P...

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