BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84449 Jun 11, 2012
Friday, November 28, 2008
Obama's "birth certificate" - the devil's in the details
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However, even today’s Hawaiian state law provides for the issuance of “birth certificates” if the child is born out of state, and potentially out of the US, as long as the legal parents can show Hawaii as their legal residence:
[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
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How this affects Barack Obama
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For comparison, here’s an example of the more-detailed “vault copy” of a “Certificate of Live Birth”:
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The root document(s), could be: a) a true “Certificate of Live Birth”; b) a “Late Birth Certificate” with or without modifications; or c) a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth.”
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A “Certification of Live Birth” may reflect data that had been changed over time, and does not provide corroborated testimony such as dates, locations, change in paternal identification, and “Certificate of Delayed Birth.”
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Certification of Live Birth” was first distributed publically on the internet, Hawaiian Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo simply asserted to
Credibility of the " Certification of Live Birth"
[HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]."
Additionally, the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands provides the following guidelines to Hawaiian natives applying for Hawaiian Home Lands homestead:.....
The primary documents used to show you are of age and a qualified native Hawaiian are:
- A certified copy of Certificate of Birth;
- A certified copy of Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, including testimonies; or
- A certified copy of Certificate of Delayed Birth
Additionally, the “Certification of Live Birth” is not recognized by many Federal agencies. DoD 5220.22-M, the "National Industrial Security
Persisting questions and Constitutional Problems

Conclusion

Given many the many rumors swirling about Barack Obama’s youth, his and his mother’s travels between Africa, Indonesia, Hawaii and Washington State, his father’s Kenyan citizenship, family eye-witness accounts that Barack was born in Kenya, and other inconsistencies, speculation on the known facts is rampant. Critics estimate Obama and his campaign has spent nearly $1 million dodging the issue of the details behind his “birth certificate.”

Critics should be asking the correct questions with their requests to see the "birth certificate." As this article has shown, the root document(s) may be something other than a true “Certificate of Live Birth.”

To have a FULL accounting, the "birth certificate" is NOT enough. The ENTIRE "birth record" on file with the Secretary of Health Vital Statistics Office, as well as any archived files with the former "Secretary of Hawaii" (as was the procedure under the Organic Act of 1900), should be examined to determine if a “Late Birth Certificate” with modifications, or a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth” is present or has been archived away from the "vault copy." It's entirely possible there are older "versions" and different types of birth certifications stored in Archive, at different locations "below" the top, most current certificate being used today.

Even in the event of an adoption, which is a possibility, the entire records can still be unsealed with a court order so that officials who have the Constitutional requirement to verify a candidate's qualifications may review the document. This is not to conduct a "witch hunt" -- but should be done in the venue of "due diligence," to put this issue to rest.

To silence the questions of his birth records and citizenship, as well as lessen his legal jeopardy in regard to his eligibility to hold the office of President, perhaps Obama’s best course of action would seem that he reveals the details of his birth record. In doing so, he would be able to put to rest doubts that have hounded him for years. Leaving the questions unanswered may well taint the legitimacy of his Presidency for years to come.

http://art2sect1clause5.blogspot.com/search...

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#84450 Jun 11, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>
What kind of STUPID question is that, SKANK?
At 7:25 on the day or night that Obama was born he was exactly one minute old, that is according to the information contained on that fraudulent long form birth certificate that Obama released.
What is so absolutely crazy about this whole issue is that Obama knows he was born in Kenya and used his Kenyan BC to get info for his forged Hawaiian BC.
www.WND.com
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84452 Jun 11, 2012
You 0bats think we're wrong? PROVE iT!!!!!

YOU can't!!!!!!

TOO much evidence against him.........;-)

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#84453 Jun 11, 2012
unAmerican slut wrote:
However, even today’s Hawaiian state law provides for the issuance of “birth certificates” if the child is born out of state, and potentially out of the US, as long as the legal parents can show Hawaii as their legal residence:
[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
....
Yep! Most states do this.

How do you think children born overseas and adopted by Americans get a birth certificate in English?

Oh and the birth certificates of these children do NOT say they were born in Hawaii.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84455 Jun 11, 2012
What Did Savannah Guthrie Really See?

Now that it's been established that Barack Obama's long-form "birth certificate" originated as a digitally created forgery, we are left to ponder: how was the paper certificate of which NBC News reporter Savannah Guthrie took pictures created?

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/what_d...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#84456 Jun 11, 2012
American Lady wrote:
What Did Savannah Guthrie Really See?
Now that it's been established that Barack Obama's long-form "birth certificate" originated as a digitally created forgery, we are left to ponder: how was the paper certificate of which NBC News reporter Savannah Guthrie took pictures created?
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/what_d...
Neither official has at any time identified the digital PDF released by the White House as being identical in appearance or containing information identical to the Obama birth certificate on file in the bound volume at the Hawaii Department of Health. They are prohibited by Hawaii state law from doing so

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/what_d...
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

United States

#84457 Jun 11, 2012
Like i said look underneath, the decption and duplicity, as US is still a right wing fascist Empire!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#84458 Jun 11, 2012
unAmerican slut wrote:
However, even today’s Hawaiian state law provides for the issuance of “birth certificates” if the child is born out of state, and potentially out of the US, as long as the legal parents can show Hawaii as their legal residence:
[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
commenter2001 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep! Most states do this.
How do you think children born overseas and adopted by Americans get a birth certificate in English?
Oh and the birth certificates of these children do NOT say they were born in Hawaii.
But according to Hawaiian law there must be remarks in the remarks section of that happens. And every time their is a revision there have to be more remarks!

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#84459 Jun 11, 2012
Rogue idiot 05 wrote:
unAmerican slut wrote:
However, even today’s Hawaiian state law provides for the issuance of “birth certificates” if the child is born out of state, and potentially out of the US, as long as the legal parents can show Hawaii as their legal residence:
[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
<quoted text>
But according to Hawaiian law there must be remarks in the remarks section of that happens. And every time their is a revision there have to be more remarks!
Please show us that Hawaiian law.

Oh, that's right, you can't because it doesn't exist.

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#84460 Jun 11, 2012
Grand Butthole wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama provided the information for his bio stating that he was born in Kenya.
Nope. A flat-out lie. The person who wrote the bio has STATED that there was no input from Obama.

Oh, and what do you have to say about the error in Gingrich's bio in the SAME document that has STILL not been corrected.

You really are VERY VERY STUPID!

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#84462 Jun 11, 2012
unAmerican slut wrote:
You 0bots think we're wrong? PROVE iT!!!!!
YOU can't!!!!!!
TOO much evidence against him.........;-)
We HAVE proved you wrong time and time again.

EVERY SINGLE concrete piece of evidence says President Obama was born in Hawaii.

From birth certificates, birth announcements, written testimony of Govt. officials, the INS records of BOTH President Obama's father and his stepfather even the Annual report of the Immigration and Naturalization Service shows athere was only ONE alien and NO US citizens that arrived in the US from Kenya in the year ended June 30, 1962.

http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim196...

All you nutters have is he-said-she-said and most of those people corrected their errors.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#84464 Jun 11, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Terri Tanna wrote:
"Please explain for the Class how "the Judge acted as the Attorney" for Obama in the Georgia matter. Thank you."
====
Please answer this simple hypo:
Plaintiff asserts there were four inches of snow in Miami, FL, on July 4, 2011, as the operative fact in her case. The defendant not does not appear, but sends a letter to the judge that states, "Screw you."
May the judge rule for the defendant based on judicial notice?
Yes, except if the defendant is President, semi-white, and has a funny name.

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#84466 Jun 11, 2012
Grand Butthole wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't about Gingrich!
Of COURSE NOT! LOL! You are soooooo into deNile you have DROWNED!!!
Grand Butthole wrote:
<quoted text>So really, you think the Literary Agent made up Obama's bio from thin air???
She ADMITTED that she did poor research. She did NOT get the info from Obama.
Grand Butthole wrote:
<quoted text>Obama provided the information for his bio stating that he was born in Kenya.
No the lit agent says he did NOT.
Grand Butthole wrote:
<quoted text>Obama agreed with the information contained in his bio, or it would not have been used if it contained factual errors in it, and it would not have taken 16 years for it to be discovered and corrected if it was wrong, except that at the time it was changed, it was necessary for Obama to be born in the US to accommodate his pResidential aspirations.
No, Obama never even saw the bio. It was an INTERNAL document.

Funny, Gingrich's error has not been corrected to this day!!!

OMG, your STUPIDITY is much worse than I imagined.

You really are VERY VERY STUPID!
UIdiotRacesMAkeW orldPeace

United States

#84468 Jun 11, 2012
Like i said look underneath, the deception and duplicity, as US is still a right wing fascist Empire!
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#84469 Jun 11, 2012
Connect, Abu Ghraib, Franklin Scandal, Catholic sex abuse, White ...
Joe Paterno, Penn State, knew of Sandusky prostitution scheme, gay boys
pimped ... Franklingate, Bush connections to Franklin Scandal, Omaha; Catholic
Priest ..... implicated Congressman Jerry Lewis (R-41-CA); but Feinstein also told
ABC ...

http://www.newsfollowup.com/children.htm - 267k -

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#84470 Jun 11, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you claim to be an educated person, you figure it out!
RU on drugs?

How is she supposed to figure out which statute psychotic Tacky fantasizes was violated? She's not psychic.
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Explain succinctly then the basis for Sheriff Joe's jurisdiction.
Please provide citation to applicable authority. Thank you.
rider

Ishpeming, MI

#84472 Jun 11, 2012
Grand Birther wrote:
What has happened in America since Obama usurped the pResidency?
Fed: Americans’ wealth dropped 40 percent
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/econom...
I told you SHEEPLE that the election of Obama would create a lower standard of living for every American and an increased cost of living for every American.
You SHEEPLE must be enjoying the Obama Economy, huh?
Obama promised to share the wealth, just not with you.
Washington Times Headline June 29, 1989 | NowPublic Photo ...
Mar 2, 2005 ... Washington Times Headline June 29, 1989 by salsa. Original file can be found at
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/spence.htm... ...

http://www.nowpublic.com/washington_times_hea... - 42k -
American Lady

Danville, KY

#84473 Jun 11, 2012
commenter2001 wrote:
<quoted text>
We HAVE proved you wrong time and time again.
EVERY SINGLE concrete piece of evidence says President Obama was born in Hawaii.
From birth certificates, birth announcements, written testimony of Govt. officials, the INS records of BOTH President Obama's father and his stepfather even the Annual report of the Immigration and Naturalization Service shows athere was only ONE alien and NO US citizens that arrived in the US from Kenya in the year ended June 30, 1962.
http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim196...
All you nutters have is he-said-she-said and most of those people corrected their errors.
Even to work at the Navy Ship Yard in Pearl Harbor, the August 2008 version of the,“Unified Facilities Guide Specifications,” section 1.5.22.2 allows for a total of 18 different means to verify US citizenship, ranging from a military ID card to even a “Hawaii certificate of foreign birth.” The “Certification of Live Birth” is not on the list of approved documents acceptable for proof of Citizenship.

Although some vetting took place in summer 2008 after Barrack Obama’s “Certification of Live Birth,” most media outlets and online bloggers failed to explore the unique aspects and varieties of Hawaiian “birth certificates.” Unfortunately, the birth certificate issue may cause a Constitutional crisis if Obama is determined to be other than a “Natural Born Citizen,” as Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution requires.

http://art2sect1clause5.blogspot.com/search...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#84475 Jun 11, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Friday, November 28, 2008
Obama's "birth certificate" - the devil's in the details
.......
However, even today’s Hawaiian state law provides for the issuance of “birth certificates” if the child is born out of state, and potentially out of the US, as long as the legal parents can show Hawaii as their legal residence:
[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
....

The root document(s), could be: a) a true “Certificate of Live Birth”; b) a “Late Birth Certificate” with or without modifications; or c) a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth.”
....

To silence the questions of his birth records and citizenship, as well as lessen his legal jeopardy in regard to his eligibility to hold the office of President, perhaps Obama’s best course of action would seem that he reveals the details of his birth record. In doing so, he would be able to put to rest doubts that have hounded him for years. Leaving the questions unanswered may well taint the legitimacy of his Presidency for years to come.
http://art2sect1clause5.blogspot.com/search...
Sorry BirfoonLady, the details of his birth record were certified by Hawaii DOH.

Born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961 at Kapiolani. Registered August 8. Can't be a late registration or a certificate of Hawaiian birth.

Birfoon:[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.

Sorry, BirfoonLady,§338-17.8 does not provide for out of state birth to be registered as occurring in Hawaii.

Even if arguendo there was an adoption, born in Hawaii means born in Hawaii. The statutes do not permit a foreign birth to be registered as occurring in Hawaii, even i adoption cases.

The devil's in birfoon's confusion.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#84476 Jun 11, 2012
spud wrote:
<quoted text>Then how do you justify the Democrats love for illegal aliens who steal American jobs and work 12 hrs. per day at $6 per hour?
I wasn’t worried about an undocumented worker getting my job because the state of California doesn’t hire them. On the other hand if you sold oranges on freeway off ramps or cut grass for a living they probably knocked you out of a few jobs.

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